Formosa Water Park explosion (2015)

What bothers me more is that the government didn’t let the Japanese specialists treat the victims but stubbornly clung to their rules unwilling to make a needed exception. In the meantime the 7th victim died and about 200 are still in critical condition.

Fuck I’m glad I don’t live in Taiwan anymore.

So is my ex-wife, i guess.

it wasn’t the government that blocked it but the doctors Union, they protect their patch at all costs…literally.

Although to be honest there will be liability concerns etc…but if the doctors spoke English fluently would not be a big problem.

Honestly, I can’t imagine the Japanese doctors would be any more welcome at a major US hospital. It would be the hospital picking up the tab from any law suits and not the docs.

Unless there was a major lack of doctors specializing in such treatment.
However, the hospitals can listen to suggestions by the visiting professionals. I think that should be a welcomed “second opinion”.

There is a major lack of doctors, nurses, heck even cleaning ladies at the hospitals where the kids are. There are simply not enough human resources, due to the local labor practice of reducing costs by reducing personnel until the breaking point. Medical staff were already complaining of overwork before this tragedy.

Remember: changing bandages is a 3 person job, several times a day.

Liability?! In Taiwan?! You guys are thinking US. Outside of North America, doctors are gods and lawsuits rare. That is why they make the news here when they sue a doctor for not seeing on the ultrasound that the baby was defective.

What I wonder then is how Taiwanese doctors will go abroad on medical missions then, of which Taiwanese ONGs and govt. offices organize quite frequently, using those standards. And yes, they do go to countries with which the ROC holds no diplomatic relations.

Read today that a father of one of the victims committed suicide:

http://shanghaiist.com/2015/07/20/father-taipei-water-park-burn-victim-commits-suicide.php

Sad and/or selfish?

[quote=“Baas Babelaas”]Read today that a father of one of the victims committed suicide:

http://shanghaiist.com/2015/07/20/father-taipei-water-park-burn-victim-commits-suicide.php

Sad and/or selfish?[/quote]

sad or selfish? we can never know the anguish and psychic angst this man felt. not selfish because he was not “thinking straight”. Most suicides like this are spur of the moment, unplanned, and impulsive, and the reasons for it take place in parts of the brain most mortals will never experience. But it’s a deep dark place and for the person who offs themself, it’s a way out of a pain so deep we have no idea how painful it was. Was not selfish. Was sad act and a tragedy. But he needed to get rid of the pain. again, he was not thinking straight at the time. his depressed brain took over. So sad.

re Shanghai link said: '‘Police said that Wang had most likely decided to end his life because of the 'physical and mental toll from his son’s ordeal,’ Taipei Times reports. ‘’

Yes, he got rid of the pain, but also of any chance to see his son recover and possibly gain new hope and life after this terrible accident. The article says his injuries were relatively minor and that he was recovering well. We don’t know what went on in the father’s mind and emotion, so we shouldn’t judge, but it’s very sad. In the meantime the 8th victim died, how many more?

Too many…

[quote]Taipei, July 20 (CNA) A 25-year-old man died Monday of injuries he sustained in a fiery explosion at a water park in New Taipei last month, bringing the death toll from the incident to eight.

Chen Meng-hung (陳孟宏) was pronounced dead at MacKay Memorial Hospital in Taipei before midday after his family decided not to continue apparently futile attempts to save him, the hospital said.

Chen suffered second-to third-degree burns over 55 percent of his body, as well as inhalation burns, the hospital said.

His condition was stable for a while, but later deteriorated, according to the hospital.
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Condolences

[quote]Lu Kuan-ting (呂冠廷), a 19-year-old college freshman, was pronounced dead in the early morning at Linkou Chang Gung Memorial Hospital despite the medical team’s efforts to save his life. He died of sepsis and multiple organ failure, doctors said.

Doctors of the hospital said at a press conference that Lu’s family agreed to donate the young man’s corneas following his death after seeing his condition deteriorate and infection get out of control on July 19.

Lu had third to fourth-degree burns to 80 percent of his body. He also had inhalation injury to his lungs.

According to statistics kept by the Ministry of Health and Welfare, 343 people were still being treated in 42 hospitals around Taiwan as of Thursday. As many as 213 were in intensive care units and 162 of them were critically ill.
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The inhalation burns seem to be the deadliest.

I’m still really angry that the government and society don’t seem to have twigged that they need cultural change and root and branch reform, hundreds of young people have been injured and killed needlessly.

Yes. And like many cases in Taiwan, we have lots of victims and apparently no perpetrators.

Btw, didn’t this take place in Eric Chu’s municipality? Is there no accountability here?

Guy

The little 12 year old brother of the first victim to die is finally awake. Send lots of good vibes his way, he still has a long way to go, but at least now, off morphine, can recognize his parents and talk back. Big NBA fan. 91% second and third degree burns, 9 operations so far…

What was a 12 year old doing there to begin with? I thought this was something like an EDM concert with lots of booze and the works, plus the color spray gimmick.

No booze, I think hardly even beer, though yes, some were inebriated, that was not that kind of party. This was a family oriented park, after all.

You are thinking Springfest.

He was trailing behind his sister. They were inseparable.

I thought the same thing. 12 year olds and 34 years olds partying together, huh?

I bet there was a grandma in the sidelines too. Family event, all ages, but because of the music, mostly youngsters on the dance floor, where the explosion occurred. A water park, folks. A concert. Not a beach party orgy. No Spring Fling. See the ads. Read about the venue.

And it was rather early in the evening -7 something- when the accident occurred. It is not that they are hanging out at 3am.

Six weeks after the explosion, 11th victim dies. 77 still in critical condition.

Thanks for that information, schwarzwald.

These two Chinese-language pages seem to contain some discussion of the possible ingredients or components of colored powder (but I’m not at all sure whether the discussion encompasses the kind of colored powder used at the water park), and other subjects, but I can’t make out what’s being said (I got the address of the second page from the first one):

setn.com/News.aspx?NewsID=82864

newsmarket.com.tw/blog/72246

[quote=“Charlie Jack”]Thanks for that information, schwarzwald.

These two Chinese-language pages seem to contain some discussion of the possible ingredients or components of colored powder (but I’m not at all sure whether the discussion encompasses the kind of colored powder used at the water park), and other subjects, but I can’t make out what’s being said (I got the address of the second page from the first one):

setn.com/News.aspx?NewsID=82864

newsmarket.com.tw/blog/72246[/quote]

That second link of yours led to this news from 2013, where a chemistry teacher warned of what could, and actually happened.