I was looking for some information about TAS and this topic caught my eye.
Poor Gus... and everyone else that is forever trying to defend CAPT in earnest... myself included. =)
CAPT should actually explain these very points on their website and ask for name suggestions (plus donations to help pay for the cost of rebranding, changing business cards, website design, etc.). I'll let Mike know!
Fee, to answer your question about our charging door fees at the ORIENTED Happy Hours, they're only used to cover (and recover) our costs. Once people do the math themselves and realize that the door fees is just to help us keep these Happy Hours going, they're pretty supportive and are happy to help.
See orientedhappyhours.com/guide ... funds.html
Based on my own rough calculations (though I'll have the exact numbers soon), door fees alone won't be able to recover our investment in them for another 2.5 to 3 years, but they do help us to pay for our monthly operating cost to run them.
Profits will come from what we do with other revenue-generating channels, see orientedhappyhours.com/guide ... tners.html
Commission structures and guidelines are being set up (literally as we speak, walking into a meeting about this in about 2 hours) so that everyone who cuts these deals for us -- so many people just within our own Organizers network alone, friends of friends, etc. keep wanting to bring in advertisers and sponsors for us, I guess because they love what we do! -- will also benefit. As is, we don't have the resources or time to respond to all the requests coming in! Not a bad situation to be in though, just puts the pressure on us to hurry it up.
So, good for the people who are helping us to grow our revenue base, which in turn is good for the company as it allows us to offer even more services to our Members than just the Happy Hours, which in turn is good for the Members as they will be able to receive great discounts to products and services that are meaningful to them.
If ORIENTED can negotiate 20% off a great meal at Dan Ryan's for our Members in Taipei... porque no?
When Gus and I split the original site (oriented.org) into two independent entities, the jury was out as to whether a volunteer-run entity could sustain in the long-run and still provide meaningful services to its community (which I questioned), or whether a for-profit, start-up company could do the job better (which he questioned), especially given the rise and fall of the dotcom boom.
We shook on it and wished each other the best of luck, as neither of us wanted to hold the other one back from doing what we each thought was in the best interests of the community we set out to serve.
1.5 years later, it would appear that both are doing just fine.