Criminal background check?


#105

Is this background check a requirement for obtaining a work permit as well as an ARC, or is it just for an ARC? I just landed in Taiwan two weeks ago and only found out about this background check yesterday from the taiwannews article.


#106

It’s a requirement if you want to work in a buxiban (cram school). If you get work in a public or private school (or Uni for that matter) you don’t need one. Good luck. Lots of other newbies are in this uncharted territory so take comfort in the fact you’re not alone at least.

EDIT: Oh, as far as whether it’s needed for a work permit or ARC, I believe it’s work permit. But you need a work permit to even obtain an ARC so it’s a bit of a moot point.


#107

So if I have to bring the criminal background check with me, won’t it look a little fishy when the document has already been opened, outside of the original envelope? Assuming that I apply to multiple jobs and each one wants to see the background check? Maybe I’m over thinking it…


#108

Envelope, schmenvelope. All that matters is the authenticated FBI document clearing you of any convictions. I know this, because I had to do this crap when I worked in South Korea, which has had this in place for the better part of a decade (and there all ARC holders have to get it, not just those who work at cram schools).


#109

How much longer does it take if you get an FBI check from overseas? Is there an FBI-approved fingerprinting place in Taipei?


#110

Does having any criminal record bar you from getting a job?? Like, a petty misdemeanor??


#111

Speeding tickets, for example, are usually under “infractions” (not even a misdemeanor). They won’t have much bearing, if any, on a decision. If you have a myriad of speeding offenses, it could well hurt your chances.

It is all at the discretion of the authorities issuing visa. Very minor misdemeanors - you may get a pass (1 or 2). But if you have a “history” of misdemeanors - chances would be slim.

I’m just bar-room blabbing (humble enough to admit it), as I really do not know anything for sure, save the fact that a few speeding tickets would have little or no effect on a decision.

Best of luck!


#112

We’re still waiting for an official clarification about misdemeanors.


#113

Speeding tickets are not included on an FBI background check. Otherwise 99% of people would be screwed.

Only arrestable convictions are there. Misdemeanors and felonies. I’d wager most people that are nervous about the new checks are worried about old public intox, DUI or reckless driving charges. All stuff that has nothing to do with being a “wolf teacher.”


#114

Again, I wasn’t sure. I didn’t know whether or not speeding tickets would show up on an FBI background check. I knew they weren’t disqualifying, if they were to (unless hundreds showed up lol)…

It makes sense that only arrestable convictions are given.

Thank you.


#115

afaik, the local precincts are responsible for reporting to the FBI, so it’s up to what they report as far as misdemeanors. Before 2014 or so, the FBI wasn’t interested in misdemeanors, so none will possibly show up if it was before them. Since 2015, it depends on the severity of the misdemeanor. Also take into account that different states have different criminal codes, so offenses could be different depending on the states. I know when I got one for unrelated reasons back in the states, my misdemeanor use of marijuana didn’t show up. However, that’s no guarantee for anyone else.


#116

It seems that you can do a background check from overseas through a back channeler. Can you get the livescan fingerprinting done in Taipei?


#117

Finalized, eh? :roll:

http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2017/07/13/2003674462

It turns out the bureaucrats can’t agree who’s actually in charge of sorting out the details. Meanwhile…

Since the amendment took effect, 74 applications for work visas from prospective teachers have remained in limbo at the labor ministry, he said.


Chen asked Yen when the interpretation would be issued, to which Yen replied: “Within a month.”

The real tragedy, of course, is that

“Some parents who have paid tuition are demanding refunds, but a more serious problem is that cram schools’ reputations have been damaged,” Chiu said.

Oh, no! :sob: :sob: :sob:


There’s an easy way they could fix this temporarily.

The ministries should relax the rules by allowing foreigners to sign an affidavit guaranteeing that they have no history of criminal activity in their home nations before granting them a grace period to obtain the documents issued by their governments, he said, adding that in the case of US applicants, it can take up to six months for the FBI to issue such documents.

Of course, that doesn’t mean they’ll actually do it. :idunno:


Taiwan ARC criminal record check
Is it a bad idea to move to Taiwan this weekend to look for an ESL job without a background check?
#118

They are saying that the FBI check can take months. But I’m really hoping they accept an expedited channeler’s as it only took me 3 days. (Granted, not authorized from TECO)


#119

The MOE and MOL are still hashing out the details on whether an affidavit can be used in lieu of an official criminal history report to allow time for such reports to be received.


#120

Yes, YYY, the affidavit part is a sticking point that has yet to be finalized.


#121

You cannot put be holds on hirees like this, particulary in a country with a super high demand of EFL teachers. An affidavit will have to go in place. Teachers come to Taiwan with only a tourist visa (usually). Then, they make a conversion to a work visa.

Who knows? Everything might get scrapped at some point once all the absurd legal niceties are revealed. Very little in way of sureties, for sure. I understand all the articles are translations from Mandarin.

I think everyone will look back and wonder why we all made such a big deal out of this.

I have a hard time believing that Taiwan will ever get as bad as South Korea with work visa bureaucracy.


#122

There are foreigner English teachers in North Korea?


#123

I didn’t see any mention of NORTH Korea, the last time I checked. LOL.


#124

I know you’re joking, but yes. North Korea does have a very small number of foreign English teachers. And I’m not talking about people held against their will either. I recommend everyone reads ‘Without You, There Is No Us’, by an investigative reporter who went undercover as a foreign teacher for the children of Pyongyang’s elite for a year. Okay, tangent over. https://www.amazon.com/Without-You-There-No-Undercover/dp/0307720667