Former Ariz. governor says he saw UFO

Former Ariz. governor says he saw UFO

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The former Canadian minister of defense says they exist, and now a foreign American governor says they are real as well.

The truth is out there.

What are you saying? That politicians are credible witnesses? Quite the opposite; they are a pretty dishonest bunch on the whole, not that smart, and many former ones may enjoy being in the limelight once more. Find me a sighting made by a Nobel Prize winning scientist.

Personally I think too many people wrongly equate UFO with alien spaceships, but UFO just means unidentified flying object - and that could be anything from airplanes, weather phenomenons or something you throw into the air that can’t be identified by others.

Ok here you go.[quote]Francis Crick, the discoverer of DNA, and Nobel Prize winner published a book which subscribed to the theory of intelligent design, that our universe was not simply the result of a series of chemical accidents. He states, “Life did not evolve first on Earth, a highly advanced civilization became threatened so they devised a way to pass on their existence. They genetically-modified their DNA and sent it out from their planet on bacteria or meteorites with the hope that it would collide with another planet. It did, and that’s why we’re here." The DNA molecule is the most efficient information storage system in the entire universe. The immensity of complex, coded and precisely sequenced information is absolutely staggering. The DNA evidence speaks of intelligent, information-bearing design. Complex DNA coding would have been necessary for even the hypothetical first ‘so-called’ simple cell(s). Our DNA was encoded with messages from that other civilization. They programmed the molecules so that when we reached a certain level of intelligence, we would be able to access their information, and they could therefore “teach” us about ourselves, and how to progress. For life to form by chance is mathematically virtually impossible.[/quote]

Ok, so it’s not a sighting, but it’s still a pretty far out theory, buy a very respected, Nobel Prize winning scientist. Change your mind any?
No, I didn’t think so.

Josefus wrote: [quote]Ok, so it’s not a sighting, but it’s still a pretty far out theory, buy a very respected, Nobel Prize winning scientist. Change your mind any?
No, I didn’t think so.[/quote]
Oh my, what an optimistic fellow!! :laughing: I should change my mind based on you googling and pasting the first thing you come across. Do you realise what you have posted? It’s quasi-scientific tosh; where did you find it - some whackjob UFO site? I think what you have posted twists what Crick has written on the subject.

Intelligent Design is also a load of bullshit. Even the name of the so called theory is an insult to both the word ‘intelligent’ and ‘design’. Have you ever heard of the ‘blind watchmaker theory’? Intelligent design’s reasoning is based on it, yet the theory is seriously flawed.

You’re right, it is quasi-scientific tosh, but you wanted something from a “Nobel Prize winning scientist”.
I didn’t twist what he wrote either.
FACT: He did publish a book theorizing about aliens sending their DNA to earth to preserve it.
Do I believe that?
Of course not.

Ok, but where did they come from? Chicken and egg …

Governor, heck, President Reagan scheduled meetings on the advice of his wife’s astrologer, and President Bush invaded Iraq based on a message from God. All kinds of kooks are elected to public office.

[quote]“Virtually every major move and decision the Reagans made during my time as White House Chief of Staff was cleared in advance with a woman in San Francisco who drew up horoscopes to make certain that the planets were in a favorable alignment for the enterprise.”
–Donald Regan (Reagan’s former chief of staff), For the Record: From Wall Street to Washington[/quote]
geocities.com/thereaganyears … idance.htm

[quote]George Bush has claimed he was on a mission from God when he launched the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq, according to a senior Palestinian politician in an interview to be broadcast by the BBC later this month. . .

“President Bush said to all of us: ‘I am driven with a mission from God’. God would tell me, ‘George go and fight these terrorists in Afghanistan’. And I did. And then God would tell me ‘George, go and end the tyranny in Iraq’. And I did.”

Mr Bush went on: “And now, again, I feel God’s words coming to me, ‘Go get the Palestinians their state and get the Israelis their security, and get peace in the Middle East’. And, by God, I’m gonna do it.”[/quote]
guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,1 … 78,00.html

many scientists subscribe to the belief (started by Carl Sagan among others) that life arrived on this planet fully formed, with a limited set of amino acids and DNA information storage. the theory is called panspermia, and postulates that microbes floating in space coasted here from planetary explosions in other systems and colonised earth. everything else desended from them.

the theory does a great job of explaining things like DNA and left handed amino acids, for example, and the idea is not without some decent threads of evidence. signals that may be due to particles of this composition are regularly detected spectrally in interstellar gas clouds, and the radiation in space is not high enough to guaranteedly destroy everything that’s floating around. bacterial spores can survive hard vacuum… . remember, a billion years after planet formation is a long time, and probably allows sufficient time for microbe seeding.

the problem with panspermia as an argument for the origin of life is that it simply pushes the problem back one step, but does not explain it. i don’t think however that we need to invoke an external designer of life. that just begs the question of, ‘so who designed the designer?’ is the designer (lets call it Dog) simply one of many? is there a designer of designers? that is an empty theory.

there is no reason to suppose that there is NOT life on other planets, other than blind faith in an arrogant position that “man was made in the image of Dog”.

[quote]Scientists Crack 40-Year-Old DNA Mystery
Red Nova News
August 5, 2005

A new theory that explains why the language of our genes is more complex than it needs to be also suggests that the primordial soup where life began on earth was hot and not cold, as many scientists believe.

In a paper published in the Journal of Molecular Evolution this week, researchers from the University of Bath describe a new theory which they believe could solve a puzzle that has baffled scientists since they first deciphered the language of DNA almost 40 years ago.

In 1968, Marshall Nirenberg, Har Gobind Khorana and Robert Holley received a Nobel Prize for working out how proteins are produced from the genetic code. They discovered that three letter ‘words’ - known as codons - are read from the DNA code and then translated into one of 20 amino acids. These amino acids are then strung together in the order dictated by the DNA code and folded into complex shapes to form a specific protein.

As the DNA ‘alphabet’ contains four letters - called bases - there are as many as 64 three-letter words available in the DNA dictionary. This is because it is mathematically possible to produce 64 three-letter words from any combination of four letters.

But why there should be 64 words in the DNA dictionary which translate into just 20 amino acids, and why a process that is more complex than it needs to be should have evolved in the first place, has puzzled scientists for the last 40 years.

Dozens of scientists have suggested theories to solve the puzzle, but these have been quickly discounted or failed to explain some of the other quirks in protein synthesis.

“Why there are so many more codons than amino acids has puzzled scientists ever since it was discovered how the genetic code works,” said Dr Jean van den Elsen from the Department of Biology and Biochemistry.

“It meant the genetic code did not have the mathematical brilliance you would expect from something so fundamental to life on earth.”

One of quirks of the genetic code is that there are groups of codons which all translate to the same amino acid. For example, the amino acid leucine can be translated from six different codons whilst some amino acids, which have equally important functions and are translated in the same amount, have just one.

The new theory builds on an original idea suggested by Francis Crick - one of the discoverers of the structure of DNA - that the three-letter code evolved from a simpler two-letter code, although Crick thought the difference in number was simply an accident “frozen in time”.

The University of Bath researchers suggest that the primordial ‘doublet’ code was read in threes - but with only either the first two ‘prefix’ or last two ‘suffix’ pairs of bases being actively read.

By combining arrangements of these doublet codes together, the scientists can replicate the table of amino acids - explaining why some amino acids can be translated from groups of 2, 4 or 6 codons. They can also show how the groups of water loving (hydrophilic) and water-hating (hydrophobic) amino acids emerge naturally in the table, evolving from overlapping ‘prefix’ and ‘suffix’ codons.

“When you evolve our theory for a doublet system into a triplet system, you get an exact match up with the number and range of amino acids we see today,” said Dr van den Elsen, who has worked with Dr Stefan Babgy and Huan-Lin Wu on the theory.

“This simple theory explains many unresolved features of the current genetic code. No one has ever been able to do this before, so we are very excited.”

The theory also explains how the structure of the genetic code maximises error tolerance. For instance, ‘slippage’ in the translation process tends to produce another amino acid with the same characteristics, and explains why the DNA code is so good at maintaining its integrity.

“This is important because these kinds of mistakes can be fatal for an organism,” said Dr van den Elsen. “None of the older theories can explain how this error tolerant structure might have arisen.”

The new theory also highlights two amino acids that can be excluded from the doublet system and are likely to be relatively recent ‘acquisitions’ by the genetic code. As these amino acids - glutamine and asparagine - are unable to hold their shape in high temperatures, this suggests that heat prevented them from being acquired by the code at some point in the past.

One possible reason for this is that the Last Universal Common Ancestor (LUCA), which evolved into all life on earth, lived in a hot sulphurous pool or thermal vent. As it moved into cooler conditions, it was able to take up these two additional amino acids and evolve into more complex organisms. This provides further evidence for the debate on whether life emerged from a hot or cold primordial soup.

“There are still relics of a very old simple code hidden away in our DNA and in the structures of our cells,” said Dr van den Elsen, who points to several aminoacyl-tRNA synthetases - molecules involved in protein synthesis - which only look at pairs of bases in triplet codons, as well as other physical evidence in support of the theory.

"As the code evolved it has been possible for it to adapt and take on new amino acids. Whether we could eventually reach a full complement of 64 amino acids I don’t know, a compromise between amino acid vocabulary and its error minimising efficiency may have fixed the genetic code in its current format. " [/quote]

[quote]Everyone knows Francis Crick and James Watson were the Nobel-winning scientists who figured out the 3-dimensional structure of DNA… it exists as a double helix.
But what they didn’t teach us in bio-chem, was that the “secret of life” was discovered while at least one of the scientists was high on LSD (lysergic acid diethylamide).

Francis Crick, who died in 2004 (88yrs old), admitted on his deathbed that he had been regularly taking small amounts of LSD when he arrived at the conclusion that DNA must exist as a double helix. [/quote]

to get back on topic,
there is a database from a french governement agency that has just been released,

most of it is in french obviously,so most of you won’t give a shit, but it makes for some amazing reading

cnes-geipan.fr/geipan/documentation.html

many highly respected witnesses as well as mass sightings

:wink:

holysmoke.org/sdhok/jp-ufo5.htm

Although old news,here are a few more highly educated and well respected kooks that must have some mental probs because they believe in life from other planets.

More food for thought.

xfacts.com/old/

More UFOs in Arizona

Made in the USA.
darkgovernment.com/tr3b.html

That’s why he is the ‘former’ governor … people probably think he’s a lunatic and he didn’t get elected anymore …

No, he is a former Gov. because of a conviction of fraud committed when he was a real estate developer, before he became Gov.
A lot of Arizonians belief the prosecution was politically motivated, but whatever.
He did not state his beliefs about this until after he was no longer Gov. He did not want to cause hysteria at the time.

As an Arizona resident, I thought he was actually a pretty good Governor.

He was pardoned by President Clinton, who he once saved form a swimming accident when they were students.

I also saw those lights, and believe they were UFO’s, because I cannot identify them. ET or not, have no idea, but unidentifiable.