[quote=“Icon”]“Oil is legal but not safe to eat”
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Oil from shoe discards is legally lard? Ayiooo[/quote]
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That is not the need. The need is for better standards and lab tests.
IIRC this type of thing has happened several times before. Its certainly NOT the first time.
They need to put these people in jail for 20 plus years.
Or force feed them with their own crap.
[quote=“Abacus”][quote=“Icon”]“Oil is legal but not safe to eat”
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Oil from shoe discards is legally lard? Ayiooo[/quote]
From the article
That is not the need. The need is for better standards and lab tests.[/quote]
Actually the bigger problem I see is how the control is being done. I mean, they are treating this case as “mislabeling” instead of gross negligence bordering on manslaughter:
[quote]“First, the FDA did not collect enough samples for testing, nor did it take a sample of the waste oil sold by Kuo to Chang Guann. Chances are the test results only look nice because the samples the FDA tested on had been drawn from batches of oil that were less contaminated,” Yen said.
Second, since the agency conducted standard tests, Chang Guann’s problematic lard could contain other toxic substances that are not normally tested by the FDA, Yen said.
“If a student already knows what questions are going to be on a test, it will be harder to fail than to pass it,” Yen added.
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[quote]“Approximately 247,000kg of recycled waste oil had been released in the local market between March and last month through Greater Kaohsiung-based cooking oil manufacturer Chang Guann Co. Based on the assumption that half of the nation’s 23 million people had consumed the problematic oil, that would be … about 100mg per person per day during that period of about 200 days,” Su said.
“Given that a large amount of the oil would be left in the pan after cooking, each person would eat no more than 30mg per day. Even if that 30mg of waste oil did contain harmful substances such as aflatoxin, the amount would be too little to pose any significant health threat,” he said.
Su’s comments, along with FDA Director-General Yeh Ming-kung’s (葉明功) recent categorization of the food-safety risk posed by the substandard oil under a “green light,” were rebuffed by National Taiwan University law professor Lee Mau-Sheng (李茂生) on Facebook yesterday, who drew a parallel between the oil and human feces.
Under the four-color food-safety risk advisory system implemented by the FDA last year, a “red light” means a food product could pose health risks following short-term consumption; a “yellow” means long-term intake of the product could have detrimental health effects; a “blue” refers to foods that are safe to eat, but are laced with certain substances at an excessive level; and a “green” is generally given to products that do not conform to labeling requirements, but do not pose health hazards.
“I have been left speechless by those academics and government officials who asserted that the chance of the oil damaging the human body is rather low, and that there is no need for panic,” Lee said.
“All I can say is that I take pity on those people who do not eat ‘poop’ even knowing that it does not cause major health problems, since the taxes they have paid to feed those officials and specialists have apparently been a waste,” Lee added.
Scores of netizens have also taken to Professional Technology Temple (PTT) — the nation’s largest academic online bulletin board — to vent their anger over the pair’s remarks.
A netizen going by the pseudonym of “kuloME” wrote: “The real problem is not whether [the waste oil] is safe [to eat], but rather how something that is not even supposed to be used in edible oil ended up there.”
Another netizen with the name “lea109” said it was preposterous that the government was trying to convince the public that the “disgusting oil” they had consumed was harmless, when it should have been making an all-out effort to crack down on unscrupulous businesspeople.
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First of all, these specialists forget this “problem” has been going on for 13 years or more. Then they also overlook that those “minimum amounts” accumulate over time, plus it is not that people are just consuming this so called oil directly, but also having cookies, breads, noodles, sauces, etc. made with it. Add plasticizers in drinks, heavy metals in water and vegetables, and you have the reason why every 6 minutes someone in Taiwan is diagnosed with cancer.
[quote=“Gryphon”][quote=“sofun”]latest news. The company has been importing gutter oil “raw materials” from Hong Kong for 13 years.
FCKING GROSS!
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Like I said. No wonder my health started getting worse since I started living in Taiwan. 
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Same here. More pollution, more time sitting in front of the computer at the office, more shit on my stomach.
I’d just go with plain flavor stuff next time. I suspect a lot of these gutter oils are used in spicy things because the spice masks the awful flavor.
Wonder if imported cooking oil at Costco will see a spike in sales.
Fragrant it was indeed … :roflmao: :lick:
What if costco oil is also tainted?
No, it’s canola oil … or cottonseed-soy-sunflower veggie oil.
All genetically modified for sure…
The technology exists to detect this adulterated oil and ALL contaminants within said oil. It is not cheap, but government agencies have this technology on hand. They just don’t use it.
Let me re-iterate, they can test for this stuff if they want to, they can look for it if they want to.
[quote=“headhonchoII”]- peanuts (alflatoxin)
- soya sauce (chemical process)
Just so people understand about tea aswell, if they just add something like 1% Taiwan grown tea to imported tea they can claim it is made in Taiwan. Not a food scandal but a scandal nevertheless.[/quote]
…and right on cue. This has been public knowledge for years. All you have to do is look at how much tea is grown in Taiwan and how much tea is drunk in Taiwan every year. Government is a shambles.
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Tea companies accused of mixing imported stock
[quote]TEN TO ONE:Investigators said that a lot of Chinese-grown tea is likely mixed with produce grown in Taiwan at a ratio of 10 to 1
By Chin Jen-hao and Jason Pan / Staff reporter, with staff writer
Several companies have been accused of using loopholes in trade rules and forgery to import cheap Chinese tea, mixing it with local products and repackaging it to sell as top-grade Taiwanese tea.[/quote]
Makes me wonder about their veggies. Costco is the only place I buy lots of local veggies since I assume they do the necessary background checks.
You are assuming that all the American corporations are on the up and up when it comes to food safety. They only do as much as the extent of the law, and sometimes they set the law because companies like Proctor and Gamble controls just about all aspect of food production and can afford to influence politics to their advantage.
Really? I did not know that. Other than a couple of isolated major food products like, say, Jif and Pringles, what specific dominant portion of food production does P&G exactly control? I thought P&G was mostly in soaps, detergents, and personal hygiene products (Ivory, etc.).
Let’s see…
The two major companies making consumer good, Proctor/Gamble as well as Unilever probably accounts for like 90% of all consumer items out there. I won’t bother listing them, it’s very extensive. This even includes Taiwanese sounding brands!!
Basically anything you can buy out there are only controlled by less than 5 gigantic corporations.
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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Unilever_brands
I see lots of consumer products on those lists, yes, but not lots of food products. Very few, in fact. That’s not to invalidate the point you probably want to make, which is control over the food supply by a few large conglomerates, and a point I’d not disagree with --General Mills, Nestle etc.
The factory owner is enraged: everyone does the same! That is his defense. 13 years ago, they started importing industrial grade oil from Hong Kong and sold it here for human consumption… afterwards, they expanded the operation by adding dead carcasses.
Seriously, I can’t tell which is more freaky, that this kind of “production” is SOP, that it was done for so long without anyone making a fuss, or that it will continue as there are no controls/checks and balances/proper penalties in place?
No, it’s canola oil … or cottonseed-soy-sunflower veggie oil.[/quote]
I thought costco’s oil was imported or is that is just the olive oil?