[quote=“headhonchoII”]I happen to be in a position to know that Barack Obama was born in a stable in a little town called Jerusalem under a shining star.
You just ain’t got the evidence and he’s got a second term, suck it up ya weirdoes, what hole do you crawl out of to worry about this stuff![/quote]
Barack Obama Himself denied that:
Let them put him on the ticket. That would be (another) case of the Republicans handing Dems the White House on a silver platter 
[quote=“Abacus”]We could retitle this thread ‘Dumb and Dumber’.
the birther argument was Dumb and the Cruz counter argument is Dumber.[/quote]
No one disagrees about it being dumb, where it is interesting is that huge parts of the right was fully on board with this crap a while back(especially the tea clowns in Cruz’s tent), now it is like ‘whatever’.
That is the interesting part.
[quote=“Deuce Dropper”][quote=“Abacus”]We could retitle this thread ‘Dumb and Dumber’.
the birther argument was Dumb and the Cruz counter argument is Dumber.[/quote]
No one disagrees about it being dumb, where it is interesting is that huge parts of the right was fully on board with this crap a while back(especially the tea clowns in Cruz’s tent), now it is like ‘whatever’.
That is the interesting part.[/quote]
Was it such a huge part of the right or just an over reported swath of rabble rousers led by a few high profile egomaniacs who could not have cared less about the outcome?
I come from a Republican household. It was a big part of the right.
Well, I’m conservative and vote Republican, but it was a non issue in my house. I mean seriously. 
What pissed me off about it was that Obama used it to further his victim role and garner more sympathetic support from the left. It worked, but it was weak. And then the knobs on the right just bringing the circle in tighter and tighter until the wagon train dove into Trump’s ass. :loco:
When these same knobs found out that the whole Muslim thing was wrong, veritably incorrect, they went with Plan B. Get it? B? 
Polls at the time said 45-51% of Republicans thought O born outside the US. That seems like yeah, a huge part.
Polls at the time said 45-51% of Republicans thought O born outside the US. That seems like yeah, a huge part.[/quote]
Hey hey Mucha Man, non issue, OK, no one cared… 
I love watching the right vacillate and deny past grievances.
Well, I’m conservative and vote Republican, but it was a non issue in my house. I mean seriously. What pissed me off about it was that Obama used it to further his victim role and garner more sympathetic support from the left. It worked, but it was weak. And then the knobs on the right just bringing the circle in tighter and tighter until the wagon train dove into Trump’s ass. :loco:
When these same knobs found out that the whole Muslim thing was wrong, veritably incorrect, they went with Plan B. Get it? B? [/quote]
It was big thing in the press. Obama was exactly the victim of it. He couldn’t have ignored it. And any politician who wouldn’t use it would have been swept by the waysides long, long ago. If the right (whichever part of it, for sure NOT just Trump by the way) didn’t want him to use it, they shouldn’t have made the mistake.
I don’t post here anymore because generally forumosa is full of idiots. Nor have I carefully all the thoughtful posts and stuff. Trump is hardly the only Republican to care about where Barry was born. Birtherism is a major issue among the Republicans. I posted this on the Net
Republicans Who Are Birthers
scottsommers.wordpress.com/2012/ … -birthers/
I have a much more complete list on my Facebook, as well a FB chat I had with some Birthers during the election.
Don’t let anyone tell ya’ otherwise, BIrtherness is a big deal among Republican. I think a lot of the more intelligent ones, maybe like out forumosa friend rodeo, find this embarrassing and want to pretend it’s not true. They seem to think that if they pretend it’s not true, it will go away and us bad liberal people will stop mentioning it. But as my 1-year-old daughter puts it," no, no, no", these bad liberal people will not stop telling you that your party is made up largely of idiots. There may be some smart people here and there, but really - and I mean really - most of you figure you can’t win back that house in Pennsylvania without getting the retards to vote for you. So rodeo, I’m sorry to tell you, all those Birthers in the party, there’s a lot of them and a lot of them are important people in your party.
They really do need to explain why that scumbag Ted Cruz is naturally-born, and the fact that they like him…well, dat’ don’t do it.
Since Obama’s mother was an American, I never saw the point behind the whole “birther” thing – except that I still don’t get why Obama hasn’t released a real birth certificate. The one from a few years ago that Hawaii sent him was visibly a modern document, not an original. Was he just trolling the ‘birthers’ or did he lose the originals or what?
He released the short form birth certificate, a completely legal document sufficient to prove birth, in 2008. The birthers weren’t satisfied.
Birth announcements in the Honolulu paper at the time he was born were released. The birthers weren’t satisfied.
The birthers’ lawsuits were laughed out of numrous courts, including the Supreme Court. The birthers wouldn’t give it up.
After the law in Hawaii was changed to allow it, he released the “long form” birth certificate in 2011. The birthers weren’t satisfied.
If a time machine were invented and a committee of birthers headed by Orly Taitz an Donald Trump were sent back to witness Obama’s birth in person, they still wouldn’t be satisfied.
The birthers are insane conspiracy theorists and a a major embarrassment to themselves.
This is a conversation I had with a group of them about whether or not Obama really went to Columbia University. The OP describes herself as an extremely Christian stock broker. Her Facebook profile includes links concerning Mike Huckabee, Ron Paul and various Tea Party groups. The original post was linked to this video.
youtube.com/watch?v=ko-qFqmKsYQ
Followed by this commentary.
FYI - Wow! That was great. The truth is dying to be known. No matter how hard he and his team try to intimidate the American public from getting to the bottom of this, what Obama is trying so hard to keep concealed will open up like a Pandora’s box and it will be game over. Why would he spend $2 MILLION in attorney’s fees to keep ALL of his personal records SEALED if he wasn’t hiding anything. Come on! Think about it.
Obama’s Hidden Past
youtube.com
Information about Obama’s hidden past is finally coming out due to the diligent research of Citizens for Freedom and Donald Trump’s investigation into Obama (And it’s NOT about the birth certificate issue.). This video exposes the FACTS they have uncovered about Obama’s past that may be surprising,
OP PLUS not one person can be found that remembers him who went to law school with him or even Columbia University. In law school everybody is taking the same classes around the same area on campus, eating and studying together. When I was working on my upper division business classes and core finance classes WE ALL knew each other. You couldn’t help but know everybody on the same path/curriculum as you.
Person #1 THINK about it? I’m not sure how many Americans still have the much-needed capacity to think critically after being bombarded on all sides by the government media. Feels a bit Orwellian to me.
OP @Person #1, totally agree!
Person #2 So he use to be a homeless, homosexual, drug running mule for the CIA?
Person #3 It’s shocking how much I did not know. Did everyone else know that Obama’s name is Barry Soetoro? From this video, he’s nothing better than a con artist with possibly a very sordid past; and not only his, but his wife Michelle for helping him disguise his actual identity, had to give up her license to practice law. How did this complete fraud ever get into the White House? He has a charisma to lie his way into all the right places using the people with the money and power to get him there.
OP @Person #3, I hear ya! We were researching his past back in 2007. Only people with open minds would listen. The rest were under some kind of spell and absolutely refused to question anything about him. I don’t care what party a presidential …See more
Person #4 He may have also been a drug addicted and a male prostitute?
OP Here is some more information that was unearthed by the Canadian Free Press and followed up by WND. "Eye-popper: Is Nancy Pelosi in on eligibility cover-up? Online images for certification of nomination raise questions.
Read more: Eye-popper: Is Nancy Pelosi in on eligibility cover-up? wnd.com/?pageId=109363#ixzz1JjtF9BTw
Person #3 Ok, I’ve been checking this out. Soetoro was Obama’s Step-father’s name, not his. I’m very confused. His natural father is Barack Obama, Sr., so where is “Barry” coming out of this? A nickname for Barack?
OP @Person #3, I have this link on my GlobalAwareness101 blog under “My Favorite Political websites” The Obama Timeline: colony14.net/id41.html This will shed some light on your questions.
But more stuff is still being unearthed because more questions are being asked. People are trying to connect the dots, but can’t because of missing information. There is not one hospital in Hawaii that can vouched for his birth there. How many red flags do people need?!?!
Person #3 This is off the subject of our president, but what I’ve read so far of his parents, paints them both in a very ugly light. What I don’t understand is the following portion: " Obama, Sr. is eventually killed in 1982, at age 46, in an automobile accident. Another accident a year earlier left him with both legs amputated. Alcohol is believed to have been a factor in the final, fatal accident. (Close friend Philip Ochieng, a journalist in Kenya, states that Obama, Sr. was “excessively fond of scotch” and ended up in poverty “without a job.”)" My question is this: If the accident a year earlier took both his legs, was he the one driving in the fatal accident? Would a double leg amputee have been able to drive a car a year later?
Scott I just found this link addressing the issue of the Big O’s past
www(dot)snopes(dot)com/politics/obama/columbia.asp
Person #3 Thank you, Scott. I read with interest that there are those who remember him from Columbia College. I wonder why he is keeping secret his transcripts. I don’t understand all the secrecy, and I think everything should be disclosed. I also don’t want a socialist government. However, I do not wish to be part of a witch hunt. Both sides should be truthful which of course doesn’t seem to happen much in politics.
Scott People have all kinds of reasons for wanting privacy. Now he is the President and has to expect a certain amount of inspection of his life, but I can certainly understand him not wanting it. Can’t you?
But I do find it significant that claims no one at Columbia remembers him continue to circulate despite cleanly being untrue.
OP @Scott, the American public are his employer. When you apply for a job the company will ask for your consent on the application to do a background check, verify your US citizenship, request your school transcripts and ask for references. Why do you think we have the “Freedom of Information (FOIA)” in place?! To protect us from government authority shenanegans. The POTUS has the power with the swipe of his pen to change LAWS affecting all of us. Why are you not interested in getting to the bottom of this?
@Scott, Snopes is funded by George Soros. Obama’s puppet master and open borders promoter around the world. He wants a One World Government and has been doing everything in his power to make that happen with influence and all of his “charitable organizations” that operate on the ground recruiting people.
OP @Person #3, I hope this helps to clarify that question of his fathers amputation. I agree that writer wasn’t very clear. "As his son described it in his memoir, conflict with President Jomo Kenyatta destroyed Obama Sr.'s career.
OP @Person #3, I have to presume based on both of his leg’s being amputated that he was the passenger in the car when he died in the third car accident. But it is still unclear. That’s the most logical explanation I can think of right now.
Person #3 OP, I would not be surprised that Snopes may be “influenced” by those protecting Obama’s position. The information seems to be biased. I am trying to remain open minded until I have proof that there is fraud. I shouldn’t have to be waiting. Obama should disclose all records that SHOULD have been revealed before he was even allowed to run for president.
OP @Person #3, yeah I hear ya. I feel the same.
Scott Did you have a look at the link? The Snopes link contains many links to other articles and publications, even from Columbia University. It includes links to interviews with his Columbia roommate and his professors. Unless you ascribe to some New World Order global government run by reptiles and UFOs, there’s not much much you can say to this. Unless you haven’t really read the link…or don’t care what it says
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OP @Scott, I did read the link you did not post. Why didn’t you post the actually link and write (dot) instead? But here is the catch and people who support him glaze over. Wayne Allyn Root wrote, “I don’t know a single person at Columbia that knew Obama.”
@Scott, why not just release the damn transcripts and be done with it. Why provide only controlled information and very limited at that. I don’t care how much of a recluse he claims to be. Only two roommates and one professor tell a tale of him having attended Occidental?! Puhleeease! Give me a break. He’s president for heaven’s sake, you don’t think that tons of people would be coming out of the woodwork to brag about having known him or encountered him or had some kind of experience with him?!
Scott I’m not defending the guy. My point is that all this stuff about secret lives of politicians is trash. It’s trash for Obama and it’s trash for Sarah Palin. Posting about it is the same as spreading lies. There are real issues and all this is just an attempt at defamation. It just shouldn’t be considered by serious people.
Person #3 Here’s something someone posted and I thought you might be interested in. Caught in a private conversation with supporters, Obama’s dare to Republicans to try to repeal the health care bill. msnbc.msn.com/id/42611328/ns … ite_house/
OP @Scott, “It just shouldn’t be considered by serious people”? REALLY?!?! It’s serious people who are asking the right questions and not pretending he has no red flags. Like I said before, the POTUS which means president of the United States has the power with the swipe of his pen to change LAWS affecting all of us for better or WORSE. Why are you not interested in getting to the bottom of this?
OP @Person #3, that’s all he does is play mind games. He claims that he wants both parties to come together for the good of our country in one breath and then his actions show he shakes the republicans hand with his right and with his left he stabbing them in the side. There is nothing honorable about him. He has no integrity.
OP @Scott, hahaha… I just checked your fb profile and noticed that you work for Goldman Sachs. Wow! Okay, now I understand where you are coming from.
Person #4 But not everyone is as lucky as I am…
The economy is so bad that I got a pre-declined credit card in the mail.
I ordered a burger at McDonald’s, and the kid behind the counter asked, “Can you afford fries with that?” …
CEO’s are now playing miniature golf.
If the bank returns your check marked “Insufficient Funds,” you have to call them and ask if they mean you or them.
Hot Wheels and Matchbox stocks are trading higher than GM.
McDonald’s is selling the 1/4 ‘ounce’.
Parents in Beverly Hills and Malibu are firing their nannies and learning their children’s names.
A truckload of Americans was caught sneaking into Mexico.
Dick Cheney took his stockbroker hunting.
Motel Six won’t leave the light on anymore.
The Mafia is laying off judges.
BP Oil laid off 25 Congressmen.
Congress says they are looking into the Bernard Madoff scandal. Oh Great!! The guy who made $50 Billion disappear is being investigated by the people who made $1.5 Trillion disappear!
And, finally…
I was so depressed last night thinking about the economy, wars, jobs, my savings, Social Security, retirement funds, and our bleak future, that I called the Suicide Lifeline and was connected to a call center in Pakistan. When I told them I was suicidal, they got all excited, and asked if I could drive a truck
OP @Person #4, LOL!!! Classic… ;D
Person #3 Person #4, I’m passing along your jokes, so great!
Person #4 OK!
Scott @OP, no, it should not be considered by serious people because it’s not true. It’s not just not true, it took me less than 5 minutes to find links that show this. Just like this trash about Sarah Palin’s baby, it’s the sort of thing I would immediately discard as tabloid nonsense. It’s on par with talk about a global UFO/reptile conspiracy.
I did get to the bottom of it. It’s trash media misquoting someone and then this misquote getting gobbled up by people who are smart enough to know better. And all that took about 2 minutes to find. This is the sort of thing that should be over in a second and why it keeps going on and on and on isn’t because of the facts.
OP @Scott, ummm… it’s not true because you, Obama and all of his mouthpieces are telling us it’s not true?! Are you seriously counting on the American population to be the zombies you see them as and eat up this controlled spoonfed information.
@Scott, you bring up FACTS yet are unwilling to demand that Obama, our president who holds the highest seat in this land, present real hard core FACTS and not this manufactured BS.
Scott @OP, I’m not sure what you mean. All I’ve said is that it’s not true that no one knew Obama at Columbia. Anyone who still says that is just wrong. Some of my Facebook friends tell me 9/11 never happened and it’s actors pretending their family members died then. Alex Jones says the Illuminati really rule the world and manipulate the news. I’ve read that it could the Jews or the Freemasons or even the Vatican that make it all up. Personally, I doubt it. When I read an interview with a professor at Columbia who says he taught Obama, I figure it’s true.
Interesting hobby. But was Fcom not crazy enough for you?
For all the Birther info you’ll ever need, see the Fogbow
thefogbow.com/
and their forum
thefogbow.com/forum/index.php
If you have any questions, you can ask Dr. Conspiracy
obamaconspiracy.org/
You can always stop conversations by asking questions like these:
“How can they PROVE that Obama was not switched as a baby, with another baby with the same name? That means our TRUE president might be training in a Muslim terrorist camp right now, unaware of who he really is!”
“Did you ever notice how black people control world finance?”
“Did you know that just before he died, JFK was about to open up all the UFO files? And they say that what killed him was not a bullet wound, but from something more like a laser, from above.”
I just want to know if it was lizard porn.