Trump just fired The acting AG for defying and has signed 15-16 executive orders and I think only signed one congressional bill that helps his executive order. Is this the beginning of tyranny? This is all in 10 days. Is the US so easily willing to trade freedom for what they think is security and stability?
Obama signed 275 executive orders. The God Emperor needs to speed up his signature if he wants to catch up.
Well, it does at least have some amusement value:
Thereās nothing sadder than watching a little guy strut around pretending heās a big swinging dick, just because thereās a big guy behind him to back him up. Somewhat like Heinrich Himmler, I guess.
Sean Spicer is the press secretary, ie., a career bureaucrat.
Itās really, really hard to tell whatās going on here. It probably is about time someone told the Third World to stop making excuses, pull their pants up, clean up their bedrooms, and get a job. OTOH, Trump must know that (a) you canāt achieve that with an EO about immigration and (b) out of all the problems the US has, immigration from Somalia is, like, number 3,547,231 on the priority list.
Ah. A thread for the meltdown.
Those who never got all upset over the previous administrationās abuses have no standing to complain about this one.
And no right to expect any sympathy.
The pen and the phone are on the other foot now.
Iād dearly love to see that immigration ban list expanded to include Saudi Arabia and Egypt. But The Donald is just using the previous Doucheās list for now.
All itās going to do is piss people off. Annoying people who simultaneously have an inferiority complex and a mandate from God to slaughter the infidel is probably not a good idea. He needs to pair that stick with a carrot, methinks.
I dunno though. Maybe if he pisses them off enough, theyāll eventually realise they actually have no hand to play, no negotiating leverage aside from āI kill you!ā, and will consider joining the rest of the human race. Maybe those US immigrants from the banned countries will blame the people who are actually responsible - the governments of their home countries - and put some pressure on them to get their act together. Itās going to be an interesting show. 
And whose decision was that? 
A fairly long read that explains why there was nothing wrong or tyrannic in Trumpās decision to fire the AJ.
I guess that some people will not read it because āmah narrativeā.
If he pisses the terrorists off, how will we tell the difference?
Winning hearts and minds. Focus on the winnable ones. Forget converting the jihadi lunatics. Convert everyone else in the region. Donāt say they already hate the terrorists, because theyāre not hating enough to actually do something about it. Focus on the psychology of the enablers of terrorism. Oh, and the state sponsors in particular. Make the Saudis squirm.
Once all those idiots are no longer gumming up the works, all thatās left is a big mopping up. Just kill all the bastards. A huge job, but a straightforward one. First drain the swamp, then build the canal.
Itās not the big chores that are the hardest. Itās the complicated ones. The Donald has a demonstrated knack for complicated jobs. So does Ben Carson, by the way. Ozymandias? He had no clue. (He was also lazy, but thatās beside the point. Work smarter, not harder.)
And John McCain has a knack for getting shot down by the enemy.
Tyranny? not at all, just politics as usual. The AG is in the executive branch. Whatās weird is that the AG is defying her own branch, her own boss, she should be fired; thatās how it goes in the real world. But she was gonna get fired anyhow being an Obama appointee, it is normal when parties change, they change their staff and itās all for politics.
Bush was really magnanimous, because of the controversy and discrepancy between the popular and electoral vote, he thought he should let Democrat appointees remain in a show of good will, which I think is stupid.
Obama fired staff for politics sake, but the media is making this bigger than what it is because theyāre trying to paint the narrative that Trump is doing unprecedented actions that border on the tyryannical, and that criticism of such actions is universal. Naw, itās just politics. So far, Trump hasnāt done anything that hasnāt been done before, but the media makes you think so.
Itās not just immigrants but refugees of course, thatās the worst bit. The US vetting program for refugees is already amongst the most stringent worldwide. Heās causing needless hardship and misery for those people (usually the US takes the famliies, women and children, torture victims, disabled etc as priority).
Also many of those countries are fractured tribal societies, their identification with the state or government they are emigrating from may be minimal.
The US does have responsibility for helping out some countries like Iraq and Libya since it invaded them!
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We have a vetting program among the most stringent worldwide, but Obama, being the executive branch to uphold the law, was letting the law go by the wayside for politics sake, on a host of issues, not just immigration/refugees. We do have a litmus test, since asylum is afforded for religious persecution, we normally ask them their religion and compare it with conflicts and the general circumstances in their country (Muslims are rarely persecuted for being Muslim in their own Muslim countries). So Obama took out this requirement as he deemed it discriminating and unfair. Thus it becomes easy for terrorists to slip in this charitable channel since we canāt really vet them anymore.
Trump has just vetted and allowed 800+ refugees through, and more to come. This is only a temporary measure, it isnāt permanent policy. But permanent policy is to reinstate the rigorous vetting process that Obama took out. And these refugees had been vetted by Obamaās weak watered down policy, hence they need to be revetted.
I donāt believe your claim jotham always conveniently blame Obama on this or thatā¦no facts to back up that they didnāt vet the refugees properly, you are just repeating hearsay.
Those refugees come from UN camps and the US only takes the most vulnerable people in the first place and not many of them either.
Trump is in power he should OWN his shitty decisions.
Theres no Clinton or Obama to blame now, just the orange faced gimp and his mutant gorillas.
Just let him continue ā¦ heās taking America from GREAT into a pariah State!
The other day he claimed to be a āpussyā, uh, people person ā¦ 
If this all turns out for the better, weāll remember you said that.
Il Douche blamed his predecessor for about six years.
Firing peopleā¦ like a boss. Only - in this case at least - with cause.
The single greatest dense against tyranny in the US is private gun ownership. Watch the people who oppose that. Theyāre the ones dreaming of tyranny.
Il Douche had to settle for lots of executive orders. If heād made a go for full-blown tyranny, theyād have had his head on a pike. Same with The Donald, or anyone else.
But some people define tyranny as anything they donāt like, and fascist as anyone who doesnāt share their views. I call this projection.
The good old:āItās ok to punch a naziā + āeveryone who disagrees with me is a naziā. The foundations of democracy!
Itās not a good idea to bring a fist to a gunfight.
And for heavenās sake donāt wear a vagina hat.
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I donāt believe your claim jotham always conveniently blame Obama on this or thatā¦no facts to back up that they didnāt vet the refugees properly, you are just repeating hearsay.[/quote]
Do I have to do your homework for you?
[quote]That means DHS officers screening for Syrian refugees are likely prohibited from asking questions like, āAre you a member or supporter of the Muslim Brotherhood or Tablighi Jamaat?āā¦
It would also prohibit law enforcement from asking key questions about how an individual views jihadist ideologues, such as Anwar Awlaki, Abu Muhammad al-Maqdisi, or Yusuf al Qaradawi. Thatās vital when such jihadi scholars have played roles in influencing terror attacks.
For example, support and admiration for Awlaki was key to terror cases including the Christmas Day underwear bomber, the Fort Hood shooter, the Charlie Hebdo killers, and the more recent Chattanooga Recruiting Center shooter.[/quote]
That is true for Obama after 3 or 4 years, he should own the economy, but keeps blaming Bush, but in the first year, it takes time to undo mistakes your predecessor made.
For instance, 911 happened 9 months into Bushās presidency because Clinton had created a wall of separation between the FBI and CIA, so that they couldnāt communicate with each other ā for political reasons, not practical ones. The CIA knew about the 911 terrorists, and even that they were in the US, but couldnāt share that with the FBI, whose responsibility they were when in the USA. Bush hadnāt changed it, but it was quickly changed after 911 as government apparatus became more vigilant about terrorism after Clintonās slackness.
āAppears to haveā¦ā, āthefederalist.comā, āanonymous government sourceāā¦fake news.
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