Absofuckinglutely, fred. Anything to limit Shrub’s damage.
With pleasure 
Love, DB
And where exactly was that said by any of us? Come on, quote it.
I think sending Strapon to the United Nations is an inspired choice. It’s like sending Mr. Bean to a gynecologists’ convention.
He won’t be able to do any real harm there because the UN is little more than a perpetually out-of-tune international hot air orchestra. It’ll be endlessly entertaining. Every week we’ll be getting Bolton Reports from the UN showing him outdoing himself and his shenanigans from the week before.
I see nothing but pluses here.
An interesting sidelight to this is we seem to be becoming more like the old Soviet Union every month. We’ve got our prison camps now where we send people without trials and without charges. We’ve got our Patriot Act which could be a page ripped right out of the old Soviet Fundamental Law. And now, just like the old Soviet Union, we’ve taken up the habit of seeing the United Nations and international diplomacy as little more than the herding sheep in the right direction using a strong hand and a good bark.
[quote=“spook”]
An interesting sidelight to this is we seem to be becoming more like the old Soviet Union every month. We’ve got our prison camps now where we send people without trials and without charges. We’ve got our Patriot Act which could be a page ripped right out of the old Soviet Fundamental Law. And now, just like the old Soviet Union, we’ve taken up the habit of seeing the United Nations and international diplomacy as little more than the herding sheep in the right direction using a strong hand and a good bark.[/quote]
:bravo:
Yeah, but at least the Soviets weren’t religious zealots.
Bolton is yet one MORE embarrassment for US. Will it ever fucking END?
I don’t think Bolton is the best man for the job, but he should at least be given a chance.
[quote]I don’t think Bolton is the best man for the job, but he should at least be given a chance.
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You mean you can’t even apply your own standards to your own thinking.
And who in the White House approved the Senator’s aides??
Bolton must be the right guy for the job.
He pisses off all the people I like to see pissed off. 
Simple question:
Who here wants UN reform?
Second question:
What kind of reform do you want?
Third question:
Have these reforms been attempted before?
Fourth question:
How long have these reforms been attempted?
Fifth question:
Did they succeed?
Sixth question:
Why not?
Seventh question:
Why then would it be wrong to attempt to shake up the complacity of the organization by sending someone like Bolton?
Eighth question:
Does anyone REALLY think that the UN is capable of policing the world? stopping major conflicts? doing anything about Iran’s or North Korea’s development of nuclear weapons? A conflict like Rwanda? Bosnia? Kosovo? a humanitarian crisis like the tsunami? a major earthquake?
I believe that I may be the only one on this forum who has had actual experience dealing with the UN. It was 20 years ago, but I learned the appropriate lesson. What the UN is about is horse trading. We need one manager for a small department involving “cultural affairs.” To get that position filled though will actually entail expanding other departments and staff so that the votes by a sufficient number of countries will ensure the placement of the desired person in this position. These are not official votes but everyone knows that if Ghana does not get this job then Ghana will not then support France’s efforts to get its representative on such and such commission so France approves a second job for the department of fisheries which Japan wants its representative to fill in Japan agrees to support the Nigerian candidates efforts to get a second position on the oil commission which then will allow Nigeria to accept the Ghanian representative filling the cultural position and ON and ON and ON.
With all the many problems in the world, why oh why was the Oil for Food program the single largest agency? With the most money? the most jobs? the most budget? Think about it, reread the comments above and then hope like hell that other nations send representatives like Bolton who are not interested in playing the game of increasing employment from Third World nations in expensive sinecures in NYC.
[quote=“Fox”][quote]I don’t think Bolton is the best man for the job, but he should at least be given a chance.
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You mean you can’t even apply your own standards to your own thinking.[/quote]
:raspberry:
Thank you for your cooperation.
Glad to see that Bolton is not letting Kofi Annan’s assistant get away with espousing such anti-American remarks.Washington pays about a quarter of the U.N. budget. What a huge waste of money when it pays for the salaries of socialist bureaucrats like Brown! I am sure the people in Middle America are smart enough to know that the UN is full of Jew-hating, anti-American, Democracy-bashing employees and member states. I am sure they are smart enough to know about the UN Sex Scandals, the UN Oil for Food Scandal, the rampant cronyism, and the support for tyrants and state-sanctioned genocide.
[quote=“Reuters”]
UNITED NATIONS (Reuters) - U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan refused on Wednesday a U.S. demand that he repudiate his deputy for accusing Washington of relying on the United Nations but failing to defend it against domestic critics.
An outraged U.S. Ambassador John Bolton, while not demanding the resignation of U.N. Deputy Secretary-General Mark Malloch Brown, called his remarks “a very very grave mistake.”
“Even though the target of the speech was the United States, the victim, I fear, will be the United Nations,” Bolton told reporters after speaking with Annan. …
Bolton accused Malloch Brown of employing “a condescending, patronizing tone about the American people” and said, “My hope is he looks at the potential adverse effects that these intemperate remarks would have on the organization and repudiate it.”
Annan, however, agrees with his deputy’s views, U.N. chief spokesman Stephane Dujarric said.
“The secretary-general stands by the statements made by his deputy. So there is no question of any action to be taken against the deputy secretary-general,” he said. [/quote]
So what exactly did Brown say?
[quote=“Malloch Brown”]
By “stealth diplomacy,” Malloch Brown said he meant Washington’s practice of looking for U.N. support to deal with global hot spots without letting the U.S. heartland know, while allowing conservative U.N.-bashers to attack the world body without offering any defense.
“The U.N.’s role is in effect a secret in middle America even as it is highlighted in the Middle East and other parts of the world,” he said. [/quote]
[quote]Bolton accused Malloch Brown of employing “a condescending, patronizing tone about the American people” and said, “My hope is he looks at the potential adverse effects that these intemperate remarks would have on the organization and repudiate it.”
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Sounds like a threat, doesn’t it? What a thug. Bolton must not be very used to British sarcasm.
[quote]
IN THE US CORNER . . .
JOHN BOLTON
Age 57
Trademark Walrus moustache
Background Yale-educated lawyer. Served Ronald Reagan and George Bush Senior. US chief arms control negotiator and ambassador to UN since 2005
Best known for Helping George W Bush to clinch victory in disputed 2000 election in Florida. Denounced North Korea as “hellish nightmare”. Accused of bullying subordinates in State Department
Quote “There is no such thing as the United Nations. The United States makes the UN work, when it wants to work. If the UN building in New York lost ten stories, it would not make a bit of difference”
IN THE UN CORNER . . .
MARK MALLOCH BROWN
Age 52
Trademark Transatlantic twang
Background Marlborough College and Cambridge University. Worked as a journalist on the Economist before joining the World Bank and heading the UN’s Development Programme
Best known for Accepting job as UN deputy secretary-general to reform it after allegations of corruption, bribery and sexual harassment. Lives in home owned by the financier George Soros
Quote “If you look at the past 60 years of the UN, things rarely go well when there are strains in the relationship with the US. We must learn to trust the US without being seen as a poodle of America”[/quote]
Yeah, sort of how the French and Germans totally missed Rumsfeld’s sarcasm in referring to them as “Old Europe” or how the Eastern and Central Europeans missed out on that sarcasm when Chirac told them that they had missed a very good opportunity to shut up.
^^^This^^^
And contemporized:
Now, I’m reading this thread cuz ol’ Crabby Pants himself is looking more and more likely to rise up the ass of 45, I think we need to revisit Revoltin’ Bolton and his impact on Taiwan.
He was paid to write some opinions on Taiwan in the 90s, has been quite vociferous about us since and will have the ear of the oligarch in chief. A known Hawk, does he recommend bolstering Taiwan’s military (maybe we can become #3?) and rattlin’ sabers, or does he follow the money when BeiJing offers 45 a couple or three shiny new Towers in SH, HK and BJ and offer us up on a plate?