For me, it's not the buzz, it's a nonpharmaceutical way of dealing with depression and anxiety with little to no withdrawal (for me). Better than a cup of coffee, and even in the coffee family. I've tried all the teas, vits, essential oils, and kratom always wins out. I haven't had any since being here, and I'm fine, but still would like to know that I could access if here if I wanted. Looks like I'll have to order. Now to find a place to order from Hong Kong bc it will take forever to get here from the west.
Never tried salvia, but was curious--for the spiritual experience--not recreational. I hears it's not recreational anyway, and I long grew from those days some time ago, only to advance into spirituality. I'd be very curious about salvia.
Oh, and I did go by a chinese med shop today and asked for it by plant name and kratom/ketom in chinese. They had never heard of it. Tried to sell me a $3600NT bottle of cinnamon and something. As one of the companies replied to me today, they like the keep this on the DL since we are beginning to see it banned all over the place as being the "new dangerous drug." Give me a f'ing break!