Man forcibly thrown off United Flight (with Video)

Ha! Perfect slogan. "United. We put the “hospital” back in “hospitality”.

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I thought it’s interesting because he got a lot of press as he is a doctor. The only folks who might get more press in the US are soldiers and pastors. Well I guess they don’t even try to throw kids off.
What about regular joe soap?

I may be wrong but I think United is largely owned by its employees. Thus Munoz is afraid to get tough with its own people. No one will be fired over this.

Employees were paid partially in stock when the times were tough.

I think avoiding United Airlines is a good thing .

Can you imagine a Singapore Airlines doing this?
One PR specialist called United’s moves and lack of apology in the public eye a Brand Suicide. He was very harsh (rightly so) with United’s tactic and statements after the fact.

A paying passenger sitting in a seat is yanked with force from his seat. How does this sit with others flying United.

Fly the Friendly Skies? Wasn’t that their slogan? Well ! Ain’t we friendly yet?

Let’s beat the shit out of you and drag your ass out until you “comply”.

Junior trainee cops were involved. Those guys should be jailed.

The CEO should go back to fizzy drinks and let real airline people run the thing.

Plus why fly UNited when options are better. Just talked to someone who flew SQ biz class to Spore and back on United in FirstClass. Said SQ biz was far superior to United’s First.

I’ve only flown on United twice, and that was some years ago. To their credit, both flights were’nt bad. And on the return flight from NYC to SFO, I was even given the option of flying non-stop, while my ticket had a stop-over upon check in.

So for sure, not everybody is bad on United. Lots of good people there.
But they are let down by stupid policies.

If Delta can offer a lady 11,000 in flight credit, because they failed to put her on a flight two days in a row, why can’t united offer up to 10,000 on the spot? I am sure given that option SOMEONE on that flight would have given up his/her seat?

Offer two First Class tickets anywhere in the world United flies, good for two years. See if anyone takes up that offer?
Would have cost them a lot less then the current situ.

People are saying the doc could get a big win in court for many millions.

Also if docs are treated like this, what happens the next time they announce a doc is needed. Will all docs be as quick to assist United when one of their own is dragged off a plane, after identifying himself as a doc?

All around OWN GOAL by United.

All US airlines are pretty awful but United takes the cake. I few back using them once this year and I was left traumatized with how horrible everything was. You can feel the cheapness of everything as soon as you walk to the terminal.

So apparently, the man has been identified as David Dao…a doctor, professional poker player and a father of 5 originally from Vietnam…

I searched “David Dao” on Google and got some sordid stuff. Then I thought, “I wonder if somebody in the media was thinking that what the airline and the police did would look better if they made Dr. Dao look bad.” So I typed in dug up dirt on david dao and got, among other things, the following piece:

And some people reacted to the media’s behavior:

“Hey, character assassination works for Uber, doesn’t it?” :idunno:

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I hadn’t been following news about Uber. I learned something today.

A federal judge excoriated Uber and the private investigation firm it hired, for probing the personal and professional lives of a man and his lawyer under false pretenses, likely violating several laws in the process, all because the people had the chutzpah to start a class-action lawsuit against the tech giant.

Ride-sharing app firm Uber has just ridden into another major PR storm after one of its senior executives suggesting the company should dig dirt on hostile journalists.

That’s awful journalism. I’m glad people are not going with this bs like how they shoot Michael brown and digged up everything in his past to justify it. Shame on them and good for people seeing how ugly it is for them to that. I bet they thought they were gonna make great headlines with that, a little bit of my faith in humanity is restored seeing the backlash.

Left them with a peice of my thought on http://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/local/2017/04/11/david-dao-passenger-removed-united-flight-doctor-troubled-past/100318320/

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Wow, I checked out the comments, and people are giving the Courier-Journal an earful. The piece(s) had the desired effect on some people, though, but those folks may have sided with the airline to begin with.

Given the way Americans are clinging to the notion that they still have civil rights in a post-911 world many of them are probably going to need therapy when the truth dawns that United now has the legal right to treat them like terrorists.

[quote]There is growing concern over the use of the Patriot Act against passengers on air flights. In one case, Tamera Jo Freeman was declared a threat to national security and lost custody of her children after she spanked her children on a Frontier Airlines flight.

The incident occurred in 2007 after Freeman’s children began to quarrel on the flight and spilled her Bloody Mary in her lap. She swatted them on their thighs and then reacted badly when a flight attendant intervened by swearing at her and and tossing the remains of a can of tomato juice on the floor. She was arrested and convicted of a federal felony under the terrorism provisions of the Patriot Act. She spent three months in jail and then pleaded guilty.

It is not a unique case where bad conduct is being treated as a terrorist threat under the Patriot Act. It is an area that should be a priority for Congress in reevaluating the draconian laws and policies under the Bush Administration.[/quote]

Those are the “established procedures” United CEO Munoz was referring to in his company memo which most Americans are apparently blissfully ignorant of.

JAs I mentioned they do the same to anybody being arrested on suspicion of anything and even worse to illegal
Immigrants or people getting stripped, screamed at and searched at airports. Just over zealous up its own ass law enforcement and security. Most likely those junior cops have become habituated to this behavior from working in the airport.

Reading comprehension alert!!

The latest news I read is that the man, David Dao, is Chinese Vietnamese American. He really is a doctor, and participated in the World Poker Championship.

Witnesses on the plane say that they were chosen at random, and UA’s manager told them that they were chosen because they bought the cheapest tickets. Since 3 out of 4 of the chosen were Asian, I wonder if they were chosen for other reason beyond price as well. Otherwise why would UA need to make up the story about passengers being randomly chosen. What are the odds to randomly pick 3 Asians on a Midwest flight from Chicago to Louisville anyway?

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Same in BBC and even more in Singaporean The Straits Times. Indeed, victim blaming is not working, thank goodness.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVQcXR2HVhw

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[quote=“hansioux, post:54, topic:159388, full:true”]Witnesses on the plane say that they were chosen at random, and UA’s manager told them that they were chosen because they bought the cheapest tickets. Since 3 out of 4 of the chosen were Asian, I wonder if they were chosen for other reason beyond price as well. Otherwise why would UA need to make up the story about passengers being randomly chosen. What are the odds to randomly pick 3 Asians on a Midwest flight from Chicago to Louisville anyway?
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Because Asians like to buy cheap stuff, so it wouldn’t surprise me that Asians ended up with the cheapest tickets if that was the actual reason.

Wow. This is your thinking in 2017? Are you sure you are not a redneck like your username says

Please spare me the “this is 2017” thing. It’s not PC, but Asians do go for the lowest price when possible. I know tons of Asians and the vast majority think like that, despite your attempt to deny it. Plus after living in in Taiwan, its easy to see that every local here is concerned about price. I see the desire for cheap prices here every day.

Taiwanese don’t see anything wrong with going for the lowest price and talking about money. It’s more taboo in the west to talk about money, so you end up with a result that westernized Asians cry racism when someone points out the relationship that Asians have with money. My Taiwanese co-workers don’t see any problem with stating that money is important. Practically half the conversations I overhear here are about how much something costs.

You can cry fake racism all you want, but anybody who knows anything about Chinese culture (and Chinese influenced cultures like Korea, Vietnam, Japan, etc.) knows that Asians place a heavy emphasis on money. That is undeniable.

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After “shuai ge”, I think “hen pianyi” is one of the most abused phrases in Taiwan. :innocent:

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