Meanwhile in Hong Kong

Your tendency to invoke the name (demonstrated in previous threads) has created an indelible association in my mind.

You sound like you’re having a bad day, so I will leave you in peace. :bowing:

I don’t fear Trudeau. Why would anyone fear a cuck?

You sound like you’re having a bad day being honest, unless a good day for you is being dishonest. :ponder:

Getting back on topic…

HSBC has hard-headed reasons for furthering awareness and combating discrimination in the workplace, such as attracting the talent it needs. Otherwise, the talent will easily find a welcome elsewhere. If customers and shareholders don’t like it, they can shift their allegiances to other institutions.

Such as Bank of China (HK), for example.

Activists said reforms to protect sexual minorities would discriminate against values that most people hold dear. Community values can be fluid. For example, a survey by the Equal Opportunities Commission earlier this year found that 55 per cent of respondents favoured such a law, though the result reflected 91 per cent support in the 18-24 age group.

People studying the issue in Canada (including judges) noted the same phenomenon back around 2000.

The tl/dr of this is that e-petitions are vulnerable.

By December 8, a day before the alleged cyberattack, the group claimed it had collected 10,645 signatures, with 72.6 per cent being HSBC customers and 16.6 per cent its shareholders.

He said they could retain only 6,600 intact signatures while the data showed there were more than 70,000 garbled signatures.

“We don’t know how many garbled signatures are real. The IT experts we consulted believed that someone used a program to generate signatures with garbage information maliciously.”

The petition, jointly organised by eight groups, was launched on December 5 to express disapproval at the “disgusting” display, which they claimed had trampled on the family values of Hongkongers and hurt the feelings of customers and shareholders.

And Brian Leung Siu-fai, of the pro-LGBT Big Love Alliance, said this was not the first time HSBC had supported sexual minorities. “HSBC shareholders should have been aware of its stance a long time ago,” he said.

At the very least, anyone with any knowledge of history should have known better than to trust foreign devils with something as sacred and morally critical as banking. :imp:

Still, they managed to gather “about 20” people for a protest.

“LGBT movement infiltrates big enterprise, shareholders’ rights are hijacked,” the activists called out during their protest on Thursday in front of the two displays, drawing dozens of passers-by.

“I am worried not only about the two lions. I am worried that the bank’s support would prompt society to be more open towards these issues, which would ultimately limit my freedom of speech to say that I am not in support of gay marriage,” she said, noting she was worried the city’s anti-discrimination bill backed by local LGBT activists would be passed in the Legislative Council.

Also featured in the article are tourists who love the rainbow stuff.

The result?

After sending a representative to receive the petition letter from Wong, an HSBC official said the bank would “respect everyone’s right to express their views on the Pride and Unity lions and our diversity and inclusion policies” but stated no plans to remove the statues before December 31.

Those lions look more like a pro drug statement than a pro gay statement. I’m sorry, but the aesthetics are indefensible.

That said, Hong Kong has way bigger problems.

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The Donald had better watch out. Those superstitious HKers may take this as an omen! :astonished:

Tl/dr: the former Chief Executive failed to disclose a conflict of interest, and it amounted to misconduct. Nothing really exciting. He’s also going to be retried on another charge.

The judge cut Tsang’s sentence to 20 months from an original 30, giving him credit for a life dedicated to public service, reinforced by a range of letters that “all speak with one voice to his commitment to servicing the people of Hong Kong”.

Meanwhile in Kowloon…

The mass rally, held on a soccer pitch at the Police Sports and Recreation Club in Kowloon Tong, was described by one officer in attendance as “the largest-ever single gathering of police officers the world has ever seen”.

Have they contacted Guiness? :slight_smile:

The last time the city’s police were involved in a such a large-scale display of discontent was almost half a century ago, in the bad old days of the 1970s. That was when thousands of officers took to the streets to protest against the setting up of the Independent Commission Against Corruption.

Another officer at the rally, which included a significant number of family members of serving and ex-police officers, said: “This is not a protest against the courts or Hong Kong’s judicial system, nor an attempt to undermine the rule of law.

Well, that’s a relief.

“It is a deep and heartfelt expression of genuine support for our colleagues and their families, who we feel have been unfairly treated and whose actions came out of a time of highly charged political emotion and stress.”

Elsewhere in the article:

However, last night’s show of discontent – which was closed to the media

Prominent among those who made an appearance was former security minister Regina Ip Lau Suk-yee, now a candidate for the city’ top job, along with National People’s Congress deputy Maria Tam, who took to the stage and addressed the crowd, calling for assistance for the families of the seven jailed officers.

Wait a second, I thought it was “police only”. Now they say they let some non-police attend? Damn, there goes the Guiness record! :doh:

There’s no indication that this guy attended.

Interesting headline in Mr. Alibaba’s newspaper…

Who says they’re not honest? :idunno:

In completely unrelated news, the other day there was a bit of a scuffle over a statue of old Vicky…

but it was all a misunderstanding, you see, because this

was not an attempt to obscure anything.

Of course, the British are perfectly happy, and their feelings have not been hurt in the slightest by any of this.

British don’t care. What evidence do you have of hurt feelings

I said their feelings were not hurt. :slight_smile:

How to deal with pro-democracy demonstrators in their 20s?
According to three Hong Kong Court of Appeal judges, the answer is “put them in jail.”

The defendants, including Joshua Wong, indicated they will take their case to Hong Kong’s Court of Final Appeal.

Guy

I respect his integrity. He knows what is right and was willing to take the punishment for it. What a mensch.

I used to think that Hong Kong had by far the most advanced legal system and the strongest rule of law in Asia, I guess that is no longer the case (or should I say has not been the case for a few years, though I’m not sure who’s eligible to fill in this spot. Maybe Japan?). This is pretty offensive.

I’m sure Rowland, champion of free speech, is totally okay with this.

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Hong Kong is a.shadow.of.its former self.

Everybody can see what happens if they infiltrate society …

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He’s entitled to his opinion, but he’s not entitled to power.

From economic animals to economic humans?

Political repression is generally bad for most people’s bottom line. There may be temporary gains from destroying old inefficiencies and graft, but then the new inefficiencies and graft kick in with a vengeance. Meet the new thief, same as the old thief.

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Does Carrie Lam count as an elected official? Kind of no. Here’s why: first, she offers to resign and Beijing says no. That tells us whom she answers to. She doesn’t answer to the people, and she doesn’t answer to herself either. Slave is as slave does.

Secondly:

The Election Committee is divided up by professions? That looks an awful lot like guild socialism to me.

She’s implementing the policies of her bosses and taking the heat for those policies. And they won’t even let her quit. It sucks to be middle management.

Mass demonstrations continue in HK, this time in Sha Tin and Sheung Shui. Brian Hioe continues his detailed coverage at New Bloom:

Guy

Lame puppet piglet was elected by pro-Beijing supporters only. She doesn’t represent Hkers.

I’m certain that Zhongnanhai is now in the process of recruiting for a new CE.