I never saw anything about that, where did you hear this?
Sounds a little bit like some Whiny Righty peeing in the pool after the fact, TBH.
I heard it on the Rubin report. Dave Rubin is a gay, married liberal man. Cant find direct quotes.
Do you think a Muslim baker should be made to bake a cake in the image of Mohammed? Or a gay wedding cake for that matter?
Iām saying in a perfect world, the baker should bake the cake. But by taking the baker to court, you are not helping to create a perfect world and are in fact doing the opposite. Far easier to just find another baker
Relax, son, I was just asking.
Thereās a whole frigging thread up on top of your head there explaining in detail what I think.
Youāre missing the point that was made repeatedly about the difference between āa Muslim baker (being) made to bake a cake in the image of Mohammedā (which I think we all agree is excessive and unproductive) and a Muslim baker not being allowed to refuse to do business at all with infidels (which is basically Jim Crow reform).
As Brother @Brianjones said, itās a slippery slope.
Iām actually starting a niche bakery that only caters exclusively homosexuals and nazis. Iāll have a natural monopoly from all these spurned-cake eaters.
I`m sure you and your Ernst Rohm-like posse ruled Leduc. 
My opinionā¦If you own a bake shop with generic cakes please sell those cakes to anyone who comes in your store. If asked to make a special cakes saying āGays Rock! Homosexuals Rule!ā you may refuse to make this cake if you think is offensive.
If every store or company has its own set of restrictions as to who can buy products the most efficient way would be to segregate every city by skin color, religion, sexual preference, etc. so only like-minded stores are nearby. For example, if my neighborhood only has one bakery I might have to drive very far to find a baker willing to sell to a mixed race couple.
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But what you are saying is making the thread slippy.
He`s taking the piss LOL
Now thereās a litmus test. I suspect thereās a double standard, and hereās how we prove it.
SJWs are tyrannical scum. Itās not about freedom. Itās about power tripping.
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What a bunch of flamers. Itās like american politics, everyone pointing the finger. No one really discussing anything. FLAMERS
I see what you did there.
But whoās supposed to define these boundaries? These things are defined by peopleās own morality, be it based on religion or personal experience doesnāt matter.
Just try to make up a list of this kind of scenarios:
Jewish bakery asked to bake a cake with a svastika on Hitlerās birthday
Muslim bakery asked to bake a cake with an image of mohammed
Christian bakery asked to bake a cake for a gay wedding
Christian bakery asked to bake a cake to celebrate a mom who survived an abortion
Muslim bakery asked to bake a cake with the drawing of a woman setting a burqa on fire
And the list could go on, and on, and on.
Whatās the limit? And who decides it? Do we want the government to step up as a moral busybody and say:āOk, businesses are forced to serve customers who demand X,Y and Z, but F and G are excessive and they are entitled to refuse serviceā. Thatās bollocks , let people handle it the way they want. A bakery doesnāt want to make a gay cake? Let the bakery next door do it, thereās no need to enforce any sort of moral/religious law.
In before:āBut what if no one wants to make the cake!ā ā you do it yourself, and if thereās a large enough market for gay cakes with mohammed and flying svastikas, someone will eventually open a bakery that focuses on those and make a shitton of money.
To be even clearer: on a principle level I donāt see anything wrong in businesses denying service to people based on their gender, race or nationality. If I knew of a store that doesnāt serve Indian people because the owner is from a country that has some beef with India/Indians, Iād simply consider the owner an idiot and avoid that store. If enough people do the same, the store owner would change his policy fairly quickly or sell the store. Now this example with an Indian-hating store owner sounds pretty silly, but if an Armenian opened a store and decided to deny any service to Turks then we would be walking on a thin line, not too different from the Jewish/Nazi situation.
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Well, fortunately discrimination laws donāt work like that. You canāt force people to write expressions they donāt agree with or images they donāt agree with. BUT if you deny a generic product, be it a cake, a room for rent or whatever and do so based on race, sex, religion and now sexual orientation, you can be sued, itās really as simple as that.
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I know, Iād just prefer a system where discrimination in a business is punished by other peopleās feedback rather than by arbitrary rules. Not far from home thereās a Vietnamese store that only serve women. I donāt know the reason behind it (religion? culture? no idea), I simply donāt go there.
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For those who prefer only free market system to resolve such issuesā¦good luck. I am absolutely for free markets within certain parameters. If a baker refuses to sell cakes to all non-Christians then of course he will also not hire non-Christiansā¦and how about the hundreds of more āfringeā religious types who work in companies all over the U.S. including govt officesā¦of course, they cannot possibly provide services to those who do not share their viewpoints.
I am not saying you are forced to make any special cake per any request. But limits need to be set on discriminationā¦as hard as they may be for some to accept. Some āfreedomsā are naturally curtailed when you live in a society full of other people unlike you.
My hope is for a more inclusive society. You can make choices all the time based on your religionā¦who you marry, how you educate your children, how you dress, what you eat, your weekly church service, etc. Seems very free to me. But when you step out into society full of so many people who do not share the exact, narrow set of beliefs as youā¦then please be open and forgiving as you cross their paths. If you cannot then be a farmer only selling your products to your neighbors.
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I am absolutely for free markets within certain parameters. [/quote]
Absolutely, within certain parameters: the great libertarian paradox! 
(Iām not trying to mock you, just pointing out one of my pet peeves.)
You do know they put images and expressions on cakes, right?
The state should offer public services to all legal citizens, no matter what their race, gender, religion etc. A private business is a different entity, though. If for some reasons a business owner doesnāt want to hire or work with the group X, no one should force him to and if his decisions leads him to a bad situation, heāll pay the price for that. If you donāt hire Siberian Hamish people because ārandom reason #1ā you may pass up on some possibly good employees, and if you decide not to serve Latin-American Taoist customers because ārandom reason #2ā youāre giving up some income. But if that makes you happy, for whatever reasons you may have to hate Siberian Hamish people and Latin-American Taoists, then be my guest.
Yes, but you canāt force someone to put an expression or image on a cake if they find it offensive. Thatās where the line is drawn, I can dig up some more extensive discussion on the subject if you like.