Stupid, Racist Australians

Last time I was in Brisbane where I grewed up, half the bastards in the Queen Street mall were Asians, most of the taxi drivers too, and even a lot of the white fellers were using chopstix during the lunch hour in the food court. How do you call that racist?

Sunnybank is mostly populated by Taiwanese, the botanical gardens are full of Chinese, the Gold Coast is mostly owned by Japanese and you call us a bunch of racists.

Show me one city or area of Taiwan, China, or Japan with the same level of multiculturalism.

Oh, did I mention the Greek dancing or the Italian club?[/quote]

Cronulla Riots, 2005, Sydney
‘I do not believe there is under lying racism in Australia,’ John Howard, Prime Minister

China has 56 different ethnic groups, making up over 100 million people. That’s about 10% of the population. In Australia, people born in another country other than NZ and England, it’s 14%. So China has some diversity in population. It also has a very wide diversity in language groups. And as anyone who knows China will tell you, it is not the color of your skin that matters but the town in which you were born. Cultural prejudice helps build culture. It is not going away without awareness of its existence, being in denial isn’t going to help.

Last time I was in Brisbane where I grewed up, half the bastards in the Queen Street mall were Asians, most of the taxi drivers too, and even a lot of the white fellers were using chopstix during the lunch hour in the food court. How do you call that racist?

Sunnybank is mostly populated by Taiwanese, the botanical gardens are full of Chinese, the Gold Coast is mostly owned by Japanese and you call us a bunch of racists.

Show me one city or area of Taiwan, China, or Japan with the same level of multiculturalism.

Oh, did I mention the Greek dancing or the Italian club?[/quote]

I know, but as I constantly remind people, Australia is not the only place to face large scale immigration in the recent past and in fact Australia was built on immigration. It stands out as an outlier among immigrant nations. I actually lived and worked in Queensland with the locals, so I’m just giving people the feedback of what I experienced. Take from that what you will. So have others. You can’t deny this.

I’m not saying its anything like some Asian or Middle eastern countries of course.

A couple of months ago there was a bit of a kerfuffle in the Taiwanese media, sparked by a talk show host’s blog entry describing her visit to Australia. Her biggest complaint was high prices but she also mentioned racism. If I remember correctly, the Apple Daily picked up the story, followed by the TV stations. Interestingly, it was a Taiwanese born Brisbane City Councillor, Steven Huang, who came to Australia’s defence. He said racism exists but it is not such a serious problem.

There’s a flood of young Koreans and Taiwanese doing the working holiday thing in Australia. Something like 22,000 Taiwanese and 33,000 Koreans last year. Many of them are returning for a second year, so it can’t be too terrible. Even the Tibetans tend not to set themselves on fire down under, despite favorable climatic conditions. :laughing:

[quote=“Charlie Phillips”]

Last time I was in Brisbane where I grewed up, half the bastards in the Queen Street mall were Asians, most of the taxi drivers too, and even a lot of the white fellers were using chopstix during the lunch hour in the food court. How do you call that racist?

Sunnybank is mostly populated by Taiwanese, the botanical gardens are full of Chinese, the Gold Coast is mostly owned by Japanese and you call us a bunch of racists.

Show me one city or area of Taiwan, China, or Japan with the same level of multiculturalism.

Oh, did I mention the Greek dancing or the Italian club?[/quote]

Thanks for putting in a good word for the education standards of my hometown.

Population proportions mean nothing without intermixing and mutual acceptance. Neither belonging to the minority or the majority will make you a racist, it’s your thoughts and opinions that do that.

On that note, I’m taking my hubby home next week. Not sure if I should be nervous or not, he’s the type to start a fight if somebody says something.

He’s also the type to win it, so I guess I shouldn’t worry.

[quote=“tsukinodeynatsu”][quote=“Charlie Phillips”]

Last time I was in Brisbane where I grewed up, half the bastards in the Queen Street mall were Asians, most of the taxi drivers too, and even a lot of the white fellers were using chopstix during the lunch hour in the food court. How do you call that racist?

Sunnybank is mostly populated by Taiwanese, the botanical gardens are full of Chinese, the Gold Coast is mostly owned by Japanese and you call us a bunch of racists.

Show me one city or area of Taiwan, China, or Japan with the same level of multiculturalism.

Oh, did I mention the Greek dancing or the Italian club?[/quote]

Thanks for putting in a good word for the education standards of my hometown.

Population proportions mean nothing without intermixing and mutual acceptance. Neither belonging to the minority or the majority will make you a racist, it’s your thoughts and opinions that do that.

On that note, I’m taking my hubby home next week. Not sure if I should be nervous or not, he’s the type to start a fight if somebody says something.

He’s also the type to win it, so I guess I shouldn’t worry.[/quote]

Go hard. What doesn’t kill ya will only make you stronger.

Anyway Brisbane isn’t Queensland, it’s just a city attached to the Bogan Motherlode :slight_smile:.

Brisbane is one suburb of offices,two of students, three of hipsters, five of aloof rich people, four of Asians, one for Somalians, and another twenty odd plus the entire North side for the bogans.

Thank God I’m not alone. Alecia Simmonds, adjunct lecturer of law at UNSW, on another typical Australian prejudice ‘Why Australia hates thinkers’:

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In one of Federal Parliament’s many wonderful moments of Orwellian doublespeak, Labor announced recently that it would fund education through cutting education. Yes, so much did Julia Gillard appreciate the years of research conducted by Gonski that she thought it best to make it more difficult next time round for Gonski and other academics to conduct research. In case none of this is making sense, Gillard recently announced that Labor will pay for part of its Gonski schools funding reforms by cutting $2.3 billion from universities. Excellent!

This may sound mad, given that universities are Australia’s third-largest export industry. Social function aside, our economy needs universities. But I can also see how it makes perfect political sense for Labor to pillage the ivory tower. It wouldn’t make sense in most countries. But in Straya, we don’t give a dead dingo’s donger about academics. Universities make a perfect target because, like few other Western countries, Australia hates thinkers.

In contrast to France, where philosophers often grace the covers of Le Monde, and England where Slavoj Zizek writes regular columns in The Guardian Weekly. In Australia, we have Peter Hartcher on anti-Gillard autopilot and the bile-flecked bleating of shock-jocks like Alan Jones.

Jo Hildebrand (far left) appears on ABC’s Q&A.

Each week I watch Q&A praying for an expert, begging for someone who knows what they’re talking about. And each week I get Joe Hildebrand accompanied by a flurry of tweets by the emotionally unstable. In fact Nick Osbaldiston and Jean-Paul Gagnon recently found in their research on Q&A that only 5 per cent of panellists since 2008 had a research background. Even in an entire show devoted to education issues, Professor Gonski sat in the shadows while Pyne and Garrett proffered glib inanities and vapid insults. No one learned anything.

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My problem is not that our public sphere harbours ill-educated members (like the imbecilic Andrew Bolt who never made it past first-year uni). I think we need commentators from all walks of life. The problem is that as a country we are hostile to those who are well-educated. We prefer home-spun wisdom to years of research. Our language is peppered with vitriol reserved for those who think for a living: “chattering classes”, “latte-sipping libertarians”, “intellectual elites” and now Nick Cater’s most unlovely term “bunyip elite”. If we want to emphasise the importance of something we say that the issue “is not just academic”. Any idea that takes longer than a nano-second to understand is howled down. Or perhaps, more precisely, any idea that threatens conservative orthodoxy is consigned to the divine irrelevancy of the academy. I’ve never heard Tony Abbott be told that his Rhodes scholarship and privileged tertiary education meant he was out of touch with the common man. Calling someone an “intellectual elite” is simply a way of ridiculing those who think for a living about how the world can be a fairer place.

There’s no doubt that Australia is a vast, sunny, intellectual gulag. The question is why. It’s certainly not for want of thinkers. We’re home to some brilliant minds, including Nobel-prize winning author J.M. Coetzee, cultural theorist Anna-Marie Jagose and legal theorist Martin Krygier. Yet how often do we hear them speak? Why aren’t they chased down for their opinions on policy and social issues rather than wheeling out ageing politicians and professional laymen again?

Perhaps there’s a link between the myth of Australian egalitarianism and anti-intellectualism. Australian history is popularly told as a story of democracy, equality and classlessness that broke from England’s stuffy, poncy, aristocratic elitism. We’re a place where hard yakka, not birth, will earn you success and by hard yakka we don’t mean intellectual labour. Although, of course, equality is a great goal, we’ve interpreted it to mean cultural conformity rather than a redistribution of wealth and power. The lowest common denominator exerts a tyrannical sway and tall poppies are lopped with blood-soaked scythes. Children learn from an early age that being clever is a source of shame. Ignorance is cool.

There’s also no room for cleverness in our models of masculinity or femininity. For women, intelligence equates with a dangerous independence that doesn’t sit well with your role as a docile adoring fan to the boys at the pub. It’s equated with sexual unattractiveness. And for men, carrying a book and using words longer than one syllable is a form of gender treason. It’s as good as wearing bumless chaps to a suburban barbecue. Real blokes have practical wisdom expressed through grunts and murmurs. Real Aussie chicks just giggle.

It’s not just a hostile public sphere that keeps thinkers at bay. Academics may also not want to enter public debate. And I can understand why. Firstly, they receive no rewards in terms of career advancement for writing for the public. And secondly, many may not want to engage with a knife-drawn public prone to Goldstein-style Two-Minute Twitter Hate Rituals. Academics are often timorous folk who specialise in showing the complexity of issues, not offering tweet-sized solutions. Social media doesn’t democratise debate. It limits it to the resilient. Snark triumphs over insight, and commentary is reserved for those with voluminous folds of scar-tissue. Sensitive thinkers rarely fit this bill.

Ultimately, there is nothing elite about academics. Their wages are embarrassingly humble, they work ridiculously long hours and for most the aim is pretty noble – to create knowledge that will help make a better world. In a bizarre twist of logic exemplified by the short-lived Rudd mining tax, Australians have come to see elite multinational companies as having the same interests as the everyday person and academics as haughty public menaces. The former self-avowedly exists only for their own profits, the latter commits the crime of thinking about people.

It’s no wonder Gillard chose to pick on academics. They’re the perfect targets: too socially obscure to be missed and too loathed to be defended.

Alecia Simmonds is an adjunct lecturer of law at UNSW and Merewether Fellow at Mitchell Library[/quote]

Here in Surfers, they are installing a light rail system (tram system). Last week the government conducted random drug testing 80% of workers were found to be under the influence of a drug. Not clear what drug but most likely dope or alcohol. 50% of one group were stood down immediately. I drive past them every day. I have struggled to find one person who looked younger than me and I’m not young. It’s a bit of a laugh really, but 80%? OMG.

[quote=“tsukinodeynatsu”]
On that note, I’m taking my hubby home next week. Not sure if I should be nervous or not, he’s the type to start a fight if somebody says something.

He’s also the type to win it, so I guess I shouldn’t worry.[/quote]

So, Tsuki-chan, I’ve just been reminded.

what did happen when you took the old fella off to see the old folks. Any bogan interactions? Anything on film?

This menu was used at a Liberal party fund raiser in Australia. It was attended by Joe Hockey (shadow Treasurer). Read Moroccan Quail.

Jesus wept!

Australia is a really racist country. To it’s core, and on varying levels. Which is funny considering it is a country built from migrants. I have brothers who live there and they encounter varying levels of racism from, office banter to direct spiteful comments.

stuff.co.nz/world/australia/ … ant-racism
stuff.co.nz/entertainment/tv … bly-racist

Surprisingly both are both the Sydney Herald…

Kevin Rudd has just became Australia’s new Prime Minister.

I’m a labor voter (generally) but not a Rudd fan. I think he’s a pencil neck. Perhaps for me the thing i like least about Rudd is his affinity with Murdoch. He was a big supporter of the Australia Network (Australia’s national carrier) falling into private hands (Murdoch). He didn’t like the amount of football it carried to the expatriate audience. For most Australian expatriates, the football is its sole purpose.

This is a very funny spoof of Rudd at the Australian Football League breakfast to a recent grand final. it was very very prophetic.

Joe Hockey was a fat prick at school and he’s still a fat prick.

Australia … One Nation Candidate. I maybe could have posted this in the Darwinism Thread but it’s gone :cry: :astonished:

That’s hilarious. I thought One Nation died a death long ago with the demise of Pauline Pantsdown but obviously not.

Frighteningly, she’ll probably win.

[quote=“Fox”]Kevin Rudd has just became Australia’s new Prime Minister.

I’m a labor voter (generally) but not a Rudd fan. I think he’s a pencil neck. Perhaps for me the thing I like least about Rudd is his affinity with Murdoch. He was a big supporter of the Australia Network (Australia’s national carrier) falling into private hands (Murdoch). He didn’t like the amount of football it carried to the expatriate audience. For most Australian expatriates, the football is its sole purpose.

This is a very funny spoof of Rudd at the Australian Football League breakfast to a recent grand final. it was very very prophetic.


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I love this analysis of Rudd. He seems like a real pyschopath that isn’t too well liked within many parts of Labour. A manipulator, delusional, a leaker, and predatory towards colleagues. Unfortunately, he’s picked an industry where these traits often lead to success. Why does the Australian public love him so much? Am hoping Liberal leader Abbott wins this election big time.

Living in OZ for two years growing up, I was never of fan of the Labour Party in Australia (other than Bob Hawke who was pretty good) but was always amazed at the infighting and rudeness of many within the party (e.g., Keating in the 90s, Rudd in the 2000s). Gilliard wasn’t my favourite, but I get the sense that being a woman in Australia politics is difficult. Still very much a macho, chauvinistic, pub culture in politics.

michaelsmithnews.com/2013/08 … rules.html

The short answer is Murdoch. The Murdoch press supported Rudd when he was dumped as leader by the labor party for two reasons. A) He was a Murdoch supporter which ultimately worked very badly against him within the Labor party; and B) Supporting Rudd and ragging on Gillard was a very effective strategy by Murdoch for building support for the Liberals.

Rudd was a major supporter of Murdoch picking up the Australia Network (Australia’s international broadcaster); however, the Labor party besides Rudd was against it.

Having just looked at part of the debate I wasn’t impressed.
Abbot looks like he’s 8 years old talking to a class of 5 year olds. He’s even got the ears for it.

Rudd, not a whole lot better.

Then Abbott throwing in the boat reference at the end, what a nice touch to pick up the undecided dregs.

‘We are all about giving a fair go’.