The great part is shitibs donât understand why normal people are mad. They donât see it nor feel the effects. I personally thank twitter(i.e. Heartisteâs twitter, RWsurfergirl) and youtube(i.e. White girls bleed a lot) for this. The mediaâs total lack of authenticity gets the big prize though. Watching Trumps spokewoman take apart a CNN reporter was so sweet. They tried to tell us how great ÂĄJeb! would be. One pic of his wife would of destroyed him and that would of been before they even explained it.
Thereâs already an American police state. Itâs just mostly incompetent. FBI came out recently admitting they use zero day exploits.
Liberals understand very well why people are mad. We also understand that Trump supporters are the type of people who carried signs reading âKeep government out of my Medicareâ back when the ACA was coming in and only âdiscoveredâ things were going south when a black guy took the presidency.
Trump supporters get that something is wrong, but misdiagnose it (such is the state of medical care in the US) and support every measure and policy guaranteed to make things worse.
rowland is a poster child for this kind of thinking.
[quote=âMucha Manâ]Liberals understand very well why people are mad. We also understand that Trump supporters are the type of people who carried signs reading âKeep government out of my Medicareâ back when the ACA was coming in and only âdiscoveredâ things were going south when a black guy took the presidency.
Trump supporters get that something is wrong, but misdiagnose it (such is the state of medical care in the US) and support every measure and policy guaranteed to make things worse.
rowland is a poster child for this kind of thinking.[/quote]
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[quote=âOkamiâ][quote=âMucha Manâ]Liberals understand very well why people are mad. We also understand that Trump supporters are the type of people who carried signs reading âKeep government out of my Medicareâ back when the ACA was coming in and only âdiscoveredâ things were going south when a black guy took the presidency.
Trump supporters get that something is wrong, but misdiagnose it (such is the state of medical care in the US) and support every measure and policy guaranteed to make things worse.
rowland is a poster child for this kind of thinking.[/quote]
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The only thing keeping the GOP from collapsing right now is the threat of terrorism. The attacks in San Bernadino and Paris are giving them a chance since Obama has not done well (perhaps well considering the hand dealt) handling either and there is a general lack of confidence. Unfortunately the right is showing that they are tough on terror and their policies handling the Middle East long term are almost guaranteed to make things much, much worse. Fighting ISIS is like fighting your shadow. You canât fight it with normal tactics and if the US goes in with boots on the ground then ISIS multiplies. Kill one jihadist (and 10 civilians) and five more radicalize. In addition to that the US/West would have to spend multiple decades in Syria supporting a new government. Staying out isnât a winning strategy either but it is far less disastrous.
There is no winner in a religious war because religious war brings out the absolute worst in humanity and the only way to prevail is to embrace your own dark side: torture, collective punishment, genocide, injustice, wanton killing, ethnic cleansing, expulsion. So even if you prevail itâs at the expense of your own soul so thereâs nothing left to save a thousand years later when youâre the last believer standing.
American jihadis know this which is why they refuse to be the first to âfill the voidâ by telling America that the price of victory in the Abrahamic War is its soul. .
I suggest you take a real hard look at party control at the state level.
I mean why do you think Dem debates are always on Saturdays?
Might people be mad about healthcare because since ACA has been passed rates have continued to skyrocket, while networks are becoming smaller and the number of insurance providers is declining? Of course not, itâs because Obama is a negro! :roflmao:
Talk to me about all those insurance trusts that took the money and failed, then look at who owned them. Iâm sure youâll do the whole libtard, âbut, but IIRAQ!!!â Thank God hormone treatment and birth control are covered for women and transsexuals though.
[quote]The strategy here is clear, and it is one that this president has used to great effect in the past: Project to like minds in media that concerns over terrorism are a preoccupation of the intellectually sequestered right. To lend any credence to that notion would be to align yourself with that brutish, unthinking element in flyover country, and you wouldnât want to be thought of by your peers in that way, would you?
Even Democrats are finding themselves the target of this rather elementary form of manipulation. Representative Loretta Sanchez, a Democratic candidate for Senate in California, committed a greater sin against liberalism by challenging the anointed Golden State Attorney General Kamala Harris for her partyâs senatorial nomination. She is, however, now being discredited among her fellow liberals for having the temerity to note that radical Islamic terrorism cannot exist without a base of support in the Islamic world.
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Groupthink at all costs.
[quote]A week after the National Front came out on top in the first round of voting, France sent a far different message, with the party losing even in a northern region where its charismatic leader, Marine Le Pen, had been widely expected to win.
[quote=âMikeNâ][quote]A week after the National Front came out on top in the first round of voting, France sent a far different message, with the party losing even in a northern region where its charismatic leader, Marine Le Pen, had been widely expected to win.
Rowlandâs thesis is essentially correct though. Because the left isnât sufficiently committed to religious warfare itâs just a matter of time and a few more domestic terrorist attacks before Western democracies are forced to embrace their dark sides and sell their souls for security. If, on the other hand, the left could be goaded into doing the dirty work then chickenhawks will be able to remain safely in the rear where theyâre most comfortable.
The thesis is incorrect for the simple reason that no advanced western nation has had a clear open debate on security versus freedoms. Instead governments have taken liberties with liberties on their own, with little if any debate, and mostly without informing their voters. The massive expansion of surveillance in the past decade has not been transparent. In most cases, governments have lied that it was even happening. The militarization of the police has also gone on quietly without debate.
If the Coalition of the Willing were willing to have a clear, open debate about the pros and cons of taking sides in a religious war in the Middle East we wouldnât be in this predicament were in now. As it is, the only debate theyâre willing to have is why so many traitors to their cause continue to be so suspect and odious.
[quote]So likewise, a passionate attachment of one nation for another produces a variety of evils. Sympathy for the favorite nation, facilitating the illusion of an imaginary common interest in cases where no real common interest exists, and infusing into one the enmities of the other, betrays the former into a participation in the quarrels and wars of the latter without adequate inducement or justification. . . . And it gives to ambitious, corrupted, or deluded citizens (who devote themselves to the favorite nation), facility to betray or sacrifice the interests of their own country, without odium, sometimes even with popularity; gilding, with the appearances of a virtuous sense of obligation, a commendable deference for public opinion, or a laudable zeal for public good, the base or foolish compliances of ambition, corruption, or infatuation. . . . Real patriots who may resist the intrigues of the favorite are liable to become suspected and odious, while its tools and dupes usurp the applause and confidence of the people, to surrender their interests.[/quote] â George Washington Farewell Address 1796
Right now theyâre not delivering either security or liberty. The deal of us giving up our liberties in exchange for financial and personal security is annulled because of breach of contract. The Lightworkers and dirigistes couldnât come through with the goods and itâs time to demand a refund.
Europeâs a bit behind the curve in that the center hasnât died there yet. Itâs breathing its last gasp in the US.
Or dissent it should be noted.
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Uh⊠the dissentâs been all over the place. You havenât noticed?[/quote]
Plenty of discontent in the underclasses but the silence about the rise of the police state among the ruling classes has been deafening. Hillary Clinton and the seven dwarfs barely mention it in their debates. Thanks to the acquiescence of the Bernie Sanders/Hillary Clinton left itâs like 1931 all over again.
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Plenty of discontent in the underclasses but the silence about the rise of the police state among the ruling classes has been deafening. [/quote]
Youâre expecting them to brag about it?
[quote]If the Coalition of the Willing were willing to have a clear, open debate about the pros and cons of taking sides in a religious war in the Middle East we wouldnât be in this predicament were in now. As it is, the only debate theyâre willing to have is why so many traitors to their cause continue to be so suspect and odious.
So likewise, a passionate attachment of one nation for another produces a variety of evils. Sympathy for the favorite nation, facilitating the illusion of an imaginary common interest in cases where no real common interest exists, and infusing into one the enmities of the other, betrays the former into a participation in the quarrels and wars of the latter without adequate inducement or justification. . . . And it gives to ambitious, corrupted, or deluded citizens (who devote themselves to the favorite nation), facility to betray or sacrifice the interests of their own country, without odium, sometimes even with popularity; gilding, with the appearances of a virtuous sense of obligation, a commendable deference for public opinion, or a laudable zeal for public good, the base or foolish compliances of ambition, corruption, or infatuation. . . . Real patriots who may resist the intrigues of the favorite are liable to become suspected and odious, while its tools and dupes usurp the applause and confidence of the people, to surrender their interests.
â George Washington Farewell Address 1796[/quote]
Gosh. I wonder if you manage the rest of your life using the standards of 1796? Funny then that you are on this Internet thing that Gore invented before becoming an award-winning film-maker and Nobel scientist.
