You are right. Despite every thing he openly represents, the followers of this false prophet are keen on only one thing. Well, two actually. Muslims and iMmigrants. Except those from Western Europe. And they hate all things Obama.
During the 100 year celebration of the ROC, there was display at 101 that depicted the history of the ROC. What was interesting is that it skipped over Lee and Chen’s presidencies. It went straight from Chiang the younger, to the English horse. I get the feeling 45 wants to do that to Obama. Actually, from Washington to Obama.
“The followers of this false prophet” are for the most part the working class of the US, who decided to vote the candidate who clearly based his electoral campaign showing support to them. I know that the msm likes to show some 4chan trolls, mention the alt right and some neonazis and let people assume that’s the average Trump voter, but that’s far from reality.
People tend to vote the candidate who promises to solve some of their problems, so if an ever growing amount of people reckon that X is a problem, dismissing them doesn’t lead to anything good. Or to be more precise, in the case of illegal immigration, it leads to right-wing parties taking the lead in some European countries, with Austria being the latest example.
Two days before the general election I was asked who I thought would win. My reply was “Donald Trump in a landslide”. We all know what the MSM position was and had for the entire year got everything wrong consistently. What was your prediction? was it in alignment with the MSM’s position?
If so, and I suspect it was, might I suggest it’s not my perception of the MSM that needs to be checked, it might be yours that needs re-evaluation.
@Mick i’m curious on how you came to this prediction? I believe you mentioned you are not a US citizen so i’m wondering how you came to this?
As for me, I though Trump had no chance. But I grew up in pretty much in all republican states so I had a strong feeling towards the end that if all of the things that was happening didn’t disqualify him as the president in the minds of people. I wasn’t so sure Clinton was a sure win like they predicted.
But still, you asked me why i’m scared of Trump. I’m scared of how he won and how he continues to rally people. It isn’t that I think he’s racist, I know it’s easy for me take that position sometimes because lets be honest. As much as the MSM want to paint him as racist, he didn’t make it hard for them to run with that on many occasions. Although I still don’t feel he’s connected to social issues as much as I like when it comes to race.
I’m scared because I saw someone who is actually charismatic in his own way towards a certain crowd of people win using rhetoric that in my opinion was uncomfortably nationalistic, feed of ignorance and hate, and often times manipulative. I’m also uncomfortable with the his character outside of being the president.
Of course not. That’s why I said uncomfortably nationalistic. Are you saying nothing bad has happened from countries that became increasingly nationalistic?
A combination of a number of things, Trump was pulling in huge crowds whereas Clinton had very few people turn up to her events (despite the MSM’s attempt to show otherwise). I would log on to sites like Reddit and check out /r/hillaryclinton and /r/the_donald, the Clinton supporters were very badly misjudging the mood and sentiment of the Trump supporters and there were quite large numbers of Bernie supporters joining the Trump side.
The negative sentiment whipped up by the MSM towards Trump, and it was vitriolic, I concluded that alone would skew polls at least a few percent by people who wouldn’t openly admit they supported Trump.
There were other signs, like Michael Moore, obviously not a Trump supporter, but he did get the mood of the public right. This was taken before the election.
There were other reasons, but that will do for a start.
But this is another left leaning talking point, to be fair I gripped about this too when I was back in the UK and wished for proportional representation because it would have given more seats to labour during the Thatcher years.
The EC is how the Presidency is won. Which he won 320 to 232. It’s semantics if we are going to argue if it was or wasn’t a landslide.
I try to avoid what can’t be proven, so avoided this topic. But will note, the Democrats have created a nonsensical situation which I don’t think will resonate well. They dont want voter ID laws (for reasons I don’t think are justified), then they claim there is no proof of illegal immigrants voting (despite no comprehensive study of such a thing being done), then when Trump proposes a study to investigate voter fraud, the Democrats are adamantly opposed to such a thing.
What conclusions would you make from all that?
Damm, I was going to ask you if you thought the DNC was hacked by Russians and if so how confident (on a scale of 0 to 100%) and if you thought it was, what evidence do you have and were you aware of evidence it was not the Russians.
Didn’t make that comparison with you. I’m just saying I don’t agree with his nativism/nationalistic/isolationism ideology. Is that wrong? Is my fear completely unfounded? And again I didn’t say nationalism is intrinsically wrong. I’m saying his particular ideology I don’t agree with.
I got used to all that during the eight years of the community-organizer-in-chief. The difference this time is the worshipers are regular people. Last guy’s worshipers were the media elite and the sort of people who hang out at Starbucks and pretend to be working on a novel.
Oh, and… hey. The new guy is following the law on Odammitcare, and that’s bad. The last guy ignored the laws he didn’t like, and that was… good?
(The phrase “malicious compliance” seems to apply. Give the idiots who created the law the obedience they deserve. Give it to them good and hard.)
I do not like Starbucks. But I am considered “liberal elite” because I have a college degree. Seriously. 45’s flock have labelled me as such. Damn. I did not know knowing how to read and write was such a bad thing.
