Cultural Darwinism seems to come closer to working than anything.
Fancy a game of Roshambo?
Cultural Darwinism, is a term used to describe flaws in other peoples philosophies. Saying that it is a solution is like saying that irrationality is the best way forward.
My inner lawyer wants to explain why thatâs simply not true.
My inner philosopher, however, will draw on ancient Chinese wisdom in asking, what is the meaning of fairness?
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Gong is a funny one: public, but the visual meaning is dividing what was private, and private means selfish, literally crooked.
Ping is straightforward: flat, level (we can infer straightening what was crooked), peaceful, and we can infer balanced.
Say what you want about good & evil. But you canât say nature never achieves any kind of equilibrium.
The meaning of fairness is endless bickering where people are talking past each other with self-serving moral assertions. Life is too short for that.
If youâre asking for fairness, youâre a beggar. If youâre a beggar, ask yourself where your life went wrong.
My inner judge overrules your objection.
There are plenty of words to describe what you are referring to, for example: disagreeable, argumentative, bellicose et cetera.
Typical meanings of fairness include justice, sportsmanship or beauty.
The beggar is a little arbitrary there as a metaphor. I think this kind of metaphor might be more typical: https://www.learningtogive.org/sites/default/files/styles/lesson_image/public/Justice.jpg?itok=EmcD6agq
more than asking yourself where your life went wrong fairness would involve closing your eyes and putting yourself in the shoes of different people. Anyway, this is drifting from the nihilism. sorry
True that. The eternal struggle of mankind is to replace natural equilibrium with ⌠something better. The argument comes with the definition of âbetterâ.
So it will save humanity from itself eh? Survival of the strongest culture, with others gone by the wayside? I would suggest that under this scheme it would behoove one to attempt to contribute to a stronger culture. When the next era begins our culture will have the better chance of propagating its genes.
Thatâs always going to change depending on the conditions and mores of the time.
Time for the standard lecture on how evolution works?
You donât know what makes a stronger culture in advance. When that culture takes over, then you know.
But we can look at history and avoid repeating mistakes. That will certainly improve the odds. The phrase âdustbin of historyâ comes to mind.
[quote=ârowland, post:50, topic:157925, full:trueâ]You donât know what makes a stronger culture in advance.
But we can look at history and avoid repeating mistakes.[/quote]
What exactly is the difference?
Giving is a luxury of those who have something to give. A beggar is in a poor position to help others.
Venezuela is currently falling apart from too much talk of fairness. The whole country has become a charity case. Fairness is when you donât have any toilet paper, but neither does the other guy. From relative deprivation to absolute poverty. Fairness sucks.
Progress comes from experimentation. Thatâs the difference. Thereâs whatâs been tried and worked okay, and thereâs whats been tried and didnât work so well, and thereâs what hasnât been tried yet.
Social justice is very backward looking, but not with a mind to what works. Itâs all about nurturing a sense of grievance. Tradition is less stupid, but itâs lacking in imagination. A better future is discovered by a messy process of trial and error. There will be pain, but better that pain than the pain that comes from stupidly repeating past mistakes.
No, âprogressivesâ donât experiment. Everything they call for was tried over the past century and a half, and it all failed miserably. Globalism is just the League of Nations warmed over. Socialism has failed over and over again. Thatâs not how you experiment. The point is to try something different.
Wow, from nihilism to, um, âexperimental anti-progressivismâ(?) in just 50-odd posts!
The oddness of your ideology reminds me of something. Once upon a time in Canada, there was a Progressive Conservative Party. Its current incarnation is just âConservativeâ, but there was a hilarious interregnum after Mulroneyâs departure. At one point they were going to call it the Canadian Reform Alliance Party.
Now theyâre experimenting with Trumpism (and simultaneously denying it, without fooling anyone on any side). I would make a prediction about how itâs going to turn out, but I donât want to go too far off topic.
Right? Nothing matters but your own crap. FTW.
An illustration of what Iâm talking about:
http://www.chinapost.com.tw/taiwan/taiwan/national/national-news/2017/01/29/490516/TRA-threatens.htm
If you agree or disagree with that assertion, then youâve missed the point. The point is that the very notion of fairness or unfairness is bullshit.
An illustration of how your reasoning comes across (to me):
A takes B to court in Rowlandia (somewhere in the Americas I think) and explains to the judge that he has a contract with B for payment of x, but B refuses to pay and has no valid reason for the refusal. The evidence supports Aâs story.
B points out that the only reason for him to pay is this concept called âfairnessâ.
The judge likes to experiment (and has nightmares about Rowlandia becoming the next Venezuela), so he defies centuries of case law by telling A heâs an SJW and a beggar and authorizing B to murder him on the spot and seize all his assets, because, uh⌠something about evolution.
(If this illustration happens to be unfair, how can I make it a more accurate representation of what you actually think?)
Nearly there. Actually for a nihilist it would be nothing matters, including your own crap, right?
I remember reading that outsider book by Albert Camus. The bit when he is contemplating his own execution. That certainly made me think. Although I still donât know what exactly I took from it. Another excellent read if you are feeling nihilist is the foam of the daze by Boris Vian. That is pretty good. The problem about philosophy it that it is usually is very inaccessible and boring as crap, but a novel influenced by it, now I definitely can get into that.
Ya, I like my crap. So I canât go all in. But the rest of youse can go screw.
I like this song by Bill Calahan, he finds an abandoned well and shouts âfuck all yaâllâ into it. Then he concludes âI guess everybody has got their own thing that they yell into a wellâ
Still havenât really figured out what the song means though, its definitely a metaphor for something.