Yeah genius it’s in the name.
Still if it is a physical object and does stuff we can’t do logic points to one thing.
So I began seeing clips cut from Rogan #1315 with Bob Lazar on youtube last week.
And based on what I saw in the short clips, I started watching Jeremy Corbell’s Netflix documentary over the weekend, but it seemed to be another nutcase documentary about another nutcase UFO “expert,” in this case the nutcase being Bob Lazar. Worse, the narrator (Corbell) is a hipster dufus who shares narrating duties with a hippy dippy Mickey Rourke and who comes off as a quasi-serious fan of all things UFO. 
I stopped watching the Netflix documentary … but clips from Rogan’s podcast interview with Corbell and Lazar kept popping up in my feed, and I kept watching them. A couple were very interesting. 
I finally sat down to watch the whole podcast this afternoon. Turns out that Lazar’s story is not what I expected. In the documentary, Corbell comes across (to me) as hipster-ish, sure, but also as a somewhat sober movie maker who wants to make a documentary about Lazar. To me Lazar came across as a wooden, possibly mentally ill man who is perhaps in it to cash in on his 30-year old brush with fame.
However, in the podcast (strongly encourage you to watch this, not just listen to it) Lazar seems much more credible than in the movie (and Corbell less sober, more fan boy - although I thought that he somewhat manages to redeem himself by the end). Lazar seems to be a guy possibly on the spectrum, mildly, whose personality somehow didn’t make its way into Corbell’s Netflix documentary.
They end up covering a lot of ground, and their conversation ranges far afield from UFO’s (negating inertia, Marshall McLuhan, Nikola Tesla, technology, Ted Kazinsky, evolution - to name several). Once again Rogan’s long-form conversation ends up being something far more interesting than you might think given a guest name or two. Thanks, Joe Rogan. 
This podcast, as recorded on youtube, is fascinating. Well worth watching if you can find the time and especially if you’re a fan of Spielberg’s Close Encounters of the Third Kind, Star Trek/Star Wars, and science fiction.
Anybody else watched this all the way through?
Bob lazaar
I know of him for decades and confess t thinking that he must be a shyster. I will check this upon your recommendation.
Check out the Nimitz documentary on YouTube, just released very recently!
Tic tac!
Will do. And tic tac is mentioned in the linked podcast, as well as the East coast incident (forget the name) (eta: the name I forgot is Gimbal). Cmdr. Fravor, too.
Got to admit it is beyond fascinating.
This is the documentary, right?
Just watched it, very interesting.
Got a feeling you’re going to love Rogan’s Lazar podcast.
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It’s the wrong /f/…
It should be UPHO.
Unidentified PHenomena Observation
If there were really other cultures visiting us, they would make themselves known, and it probably wouldn’t be in a nice manner.
I believe I believe 
should that be in the Bird thread ?
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You might watch the podcast. Corbell spends a couple minutes talking about how the acronyms are constantly changed, from UFO to AAV (advanced aeronautical vessel) etc., and possibly why that happens.
There’s also a discussion about whether “alien aircraft” are piloted/manned by aliens or by AI. There’s even an interesting observation made about why it would be advantageous for both Earth and others to circumvent Tesla’s technological innovations in favor of those by his competitors.
You may just find that the podcast is far more interesting than you thought it would be (I certainly did).
Jesus, the podcast is 2+ hours… i’ll try to find some time to watch it in a single go, I’m always a fan of this kind of stuff!
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Yeah I know, I too have a real hard time sitting still long enough to watch something that’s 135 minutes long and is just a single conversation among 3 guys.
It’s way, way better than Corbell’s stupid movie, though. Trust me, this one is worth it if you know much about Lazar at all, if all you know about him is what you’ve seen in 3 or 5-minute video clips. That is, if you’ve ever seen tape of Lazar and thought “obvious fraud!” or worse, this may change your mind.
Lazar isn’t interested in aliens at all, like zero interest. He’s all about the technology they have instead. As you watch him talk you begin to understand how he thinks and why what he thinks makes sense. Making him “sane” couldn’t have been done without a live conversation ala Rogan, imo. It’s pretty amazing. This is one you don’t want to miss.
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Yea that’s the one.
All you folks should watch the Nimitz Encounter doc.
Also Out of the Blue and I Know What I Saw by Jamie Fox.
I am somewhat an expert on ufology 
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Need more recommendations ?
Alan Hyneks stuff and his interviews.
The Report on Unidentified Flying Objects
Book by Edward J. Ruppelt
So are you (as a self-described UFO expert) able yet to share your opinion of the Rogan podcast?
No time to Listen yet. I’m not self described I am an expert. Ask me anything about UFO lore or cases . I can throw together a response… 
It would be my specialist subject on mastermind with Magnus Magnuson.
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Perfectly understandable. Please let us know when you have a proper response.
I for one am very curious about what you think, whichever way that might go.
Absolutely not. 
I went through the whole podcast, haven’t watched the documentary yet. Very interesting and fascinating.
Lazar doesn’t sound like he’s lying not even for one second, so he’s either being honest or he somehow rewired himself into thinking that what he made up is true and he can tell the story without hesitations, gaps or contradictions.
When I have more time I’d like to look into his element 115 claims, because he really did everything he could to avoid talking about that thing in detail. It’s either something too technical that would cause him to lose credibility if proven wrong/incorrect, or he knows more than what he’s saying.
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I thought the biggest gap in his story was his education. I realize that Cal Tech and MIT both play the DoD/NSA game, and in a very big way (e.g., Raytheon is packed with MIT grads), but I’m surprised Lazar didn’t keep any record of his degrees earned at both places.
That said, I don’t have either my undergrad or my grad school diplomas. I’ve never needed them, and I think they each cost like $50 for a copy (and easy enough to get if I ever needed a copy). If my schools were to wipe out my records, like MIT and Cal Tech supposedly did to Lazar, I’d be screwed, too.
His story has been super consistent for 30 years. He honestly doesn’t seem driven by fame or even being around people. Fascinating how the program demanded he not share anything with his wife, which led to her affair, which led to his suspension, which led to his suddenly fearing for his life and going public in Nevada in 1989. His story is very interesting and super compelling.
I would have thought dozens of people who studied with him and are not involved in Government work etc, could have come forward ?
There seems to be a lack of verification in some areas , that spoils a somewhat interesting account. When you look at the ex-CIA spilling all the beans these days …illegally, in many cases, you would think a few more would have corroborated his version of events.
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Maybe he was working for the Government to scare the shit out of the Russians and the Chinese …they may think twice if the USA could have a weapon / craft , that was literally “out of this World” 