Another possibility is that they have two of them. 
Looks like the US is finally getting serious in Syria and have one upped the Russians .
Unconfirmed reports claim his remains are being transported to a US Navy vessel for an immediate burial at sea. The US State Department says they are now seeking Jihadi Jill ,a known accomplice, thought to be hiding out in hospitals in Yemen.
Again the Russians doing what the US refuses to do.
Failing to deal with such open targets is no accident. The list of failures and accidental munition drops to isis is growing and quite telling.
Turkey busted :
globalresearch.ca/bombshell- … ts/5493043
US reportedly bombs Syrian Army soldiers/ S300s to be deployed in Syria.
m.sputniknews.com/middleeast/201 … diers.html
Morris’s two cents worth:
[quote] The U.S. Air Force has fired off more than 20,000 missiles and bombs since the U.S. bombing campaign against ISIS began 15 months ago, according to the Air Force, leading to depleted munitions stockpiles and calls to ramp up funding and weapons production[/quote]http://edition.cnn.com/2015/12/04/politics/air-force-20000-bombs-missiles-isis/index.html
Compared to which the attacks from Russia are pinpricks and have been mostly directed against the Turkmen and others fighting Assad in the west.
In fact the surprising thing is most of the people in the neighborhood who should be freaked out about this huge menace are fairly sanguine.
Iraq is doing some fighting but has not mobilised to the extent you would think when an enemy has ripped out a huge chunk of your territory. Same with Assad- he (and his Russki buddies) have been more worried about the rebels in the western part of the country. Turkey has been concentrating its attacks against Syrian Kurds, while doing business with ISIS.
Jordanians wanted to stay out of it until the burning alive of one of their downed pilots, but have withdrawn from the fight since then. Saudi Arabia and the other Gulf nations have ignored/supported ISIS while concentrating on the Shiite threat in Yemen. Iran has sent some Revolutionary Guard “volunteers”, but is not deploying their army.
It almost seems like the neighbors don’t regard ISIS as a particularly big threat, and are content to sit back and let outsiders do the fighting while they concentrate on their own local aims.
[quote=“MikeN”][quote] The U.S. Air Force has fired off more than 20,000 missiles and bombs since the U.S. bombing campaign against ISIS began 15 months ago, according to the Air Force, leading to depleted munitions stockpiles and calls to ramp up funding and weapons production[/quote]http://edition.CNN.com/2015/12/04/politics/air-force-20000-bombs-missiles-isis/index.html
Compared to which the attacks from Russia are pinpricks and have been mostly directed against the Turkmen and others fighting Assad in the west.
In fact the surprising thing is most of the people in the neighborhood who should be freaked out about this huge menace are fairly sanguine.
Iraq is doing some fighting but has not mobilised to the extent you would think when an enemy has ripped out a huge chunk of your territory. Same with Assad- he (and his Russki buddies) have been more worried about the rebels in the western part of the country. Turkey has been concentrating its attacks against Syrian Kurds, while doing business with ISIS.
Jordanians wanted to stay out of it until the burning alive of one of their downed pilots, but have withdrawn from the fight since then. Saudi Arabia and the other Gulf nations have ignored/supported ISIS while concentrating on the Shiite threat in Yemen. Iran has sent some Revolutionary Guard “volunteers”, but is not deploying their army.
It almost seems like the neighbors don’t regard ISIS as a particularly big threat, and are content to sit back and let outsiders do the fighting while they concentrate on their own local aims.[/quote]
CNN ,huh? Ya might as well of cited The National Inquirer.
Anyone who has been following this conflict closely enough knows full well that the US goal in Syria is the removal of Assad. The US bombing campaign did absolutely nothing as isis only achieved more victories and gained ground. And during that time,the US allowed isis to transport their oil to Turkey and the return of weapons back into the hands of ISIS. There are many reports of weapon drops to isis from the US.
Claims that Russia is only bombing “moderate rebels” is not only provable BS makes no sense at all is merely US propaganda.
The US,Turkey,Israel,Saudi Arabia coalition are working together not against isis but for regime change in Syria. The scary part is how far will they go to get Russia out of the way .
[quote=“agentsmith”][quote=“MikeN”][quote] The U.S. Air Force has fired off more than 20,000 missiles and bombs since the U.S. bombing campaign against ISIS began 15 months ago, according to the Air Force, leading to depleted munitions stockpiles and calls to ramp up funding and weapons production[/quote]http://edition.CNN.com/2015/12/04/politics/air-force-20000-bombs-missiles-isis/index.html
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CNN ,huh? Ya might as well of cited The National Inquirer. [/quote]
Normally I would take that as an insult to the journalistic integrity of the Enquirer; in this case I believe it, partly because of this.
[quote]US defense contractors caught celebrating the financial benefits of ISIS and war in the Middle East
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rawstory.com/2015/12/us-defe … ddle-east/
Yea, since they’ve been openly proclaiming that since the beginning of the revolt
Sure. As rowland will be happy to inform you, Obambi/Obummer/Kenyan Socialist Muslim Guy/ labelled ISIS the Junior Varsity and mostly ignored them (he should have used European terminology and called them second division- hey, they’ve been promoted, while poor al-Qaeda is struggling against relegation).
Yea- the US dropped weapons to places their allies were supposed to be, only to discover those allies either non-existent, running for home or handing their weapons over to ISIS.
Right, which is why I would never say that. There are extremely few “moderate rebels” left, there never were to the extent that the US and other Western powers believed, and they never were the main fighters against Assad. That role falls to Sunni fundamentalists (al Qaeda among them, but not the strongest) financed by Saudi Arabia.
They were, with the exception of Israel, which was quite happy with Assad in power- they knew he was sensible enough to not risk everything by attacking them- and Saudi and Turkey still are- that’s the point I was making: the locals either support ISIS or aren’t afraid of them.
The US and UK were concentrated on removing Assad from power- remember Cameron and Obama originally wanted to send planes to attack Assad. What has happened now is that terror attacks by ISIS in the West have forced them to do a 180 and start attacking ISIS and talking to the Russians about including Assad in negotiations while still trying to ease him out eventually.
Article about what Russia can/should do -militarily, not politically/morally- to kep Assad in power.
Frogfoot!
Russia’s 5 Next Big Moves in Syria
nationalinterest.org/feature/rus … yria-14519
No thoughts on why the US did nothing to stop isis lucrative oil ventures?
globalresearch.ca/u-s-helico … es/5434230
[quote]A group of Iraqi popular forces known as Al-Hashad Al-Shabi shot down the US Army helicopter that was carrying weapons for the ISIL in the western parts of Al-Baqdadi region in Al-Anbar province on Thursday.
Last week, Head of the Iraqi Parliament’s National Security and Defense Committee Hakem al-Zameli announced that the helicopters of the US-led anti-ISIL coalition were dropping weapons and foodstuff for the ISIL terrorists in the Southern parts of Tikrit.
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globalresearch.ca/delivery-o … ry/5437627
[quote]A commander of Iraq’s popular forces disclosed that wiretapping of ISIL’s communications has confirmed the reports that the US planes have been airdropping food and arms supplies for the Takfiri terrorists.
“The wiretapped ISIL communications by Iraqi popular forces have revealed that the US planes have been dropping weapons and foodstuff for the Takfiri terrorist group,” Commander of Iraq’s Ali Akbar Battalion told FNA on Wednesday.
He noted that tapping on ISIL disclosed the terrorist group’s regular contacts with the US army, and said,
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[quote=“MikeN”]Article about what Russia can/should do -militarily, not politically/morally- to kep Assad in power.
Frogfoot!
Russia’s 5 Next Big Moves in Syria
nationalinterest.org/feature/rus … yria-14519[/quote]
Not politically? I believe #3 was titled Diplomacy. Russia defending Syria’s democratically elected govt which has an 80 % approval rating is immoral?
I think one of Russia’s next big moves is to put boots on the ground.
Correct. Assad at one point was reportedly assisting the CIA in their information extraction program(torture) So what changed?
Anyone who thinks Obama is a Muslim Sympathizer should seriously consider checking into a drug rehab program.
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Compared to which the attacks from Russia are pinpricks and have been mostly directed against the Turkmen and others fighting Assad in the west.[/quote]
What the hell is the US bombing? Camels? Mostly against Turkman? According to who?
Israeli commandos rescue I.S.I.S terrorists:
dailymail.co.uk/news/article … z3tqiSE8HP
[quote]Saving their sworn enemy: Heartstopping footage shows Israeli commandos rescuing wounded men from Syrian warzone - but WHY are they risking their lives for Islamic militants?
Elite Israeli troops rescue wounded Syrians from the world's worst war almost every night
They have saved more than 2,000 people since 2013, at a cost of 50 million shekels (£8.7million)
Many are enemies of Israel and some may even be fighters for groups affiliated to Al Qaeda
MailOnline embedded with Israeli commandos stationed on the border between Israel and Syria
Dramatic video filmed by MailOnline and the Israeli army shows these operations taking place
Israel says that the operation is purely humanitarian but analysts believe Israel also has strategic reasons
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Interesting article by Mike Whitney.
counterpunch.org/2015/12/15/ … the-brink/
[quote]Would you be willing to defend your country against a foreign invasion?
That’s all Putin is doing in Syria. He’s just preempting the tidal wave of jihadis that’ll be coming his way once the current fracas is over. He figures it’s better to exterminate these US-backed maniacs in Syria now than face them in Chechnya, St Petersburg and Moscow sometime in the future. Can you blame him? After all, if Washington’s strategy works in Syria, then you can bet they’ll try the same thing in Beirut, Tehran and Moscow.
So what choice does Putin have?[/quote]
[quote]Do you think that Putin and his advisors have had their heads in the sand for the last 15 years, that they haven’t noticed the US rampaging around the globe bumping off one country after the other leaving behind nothing but anarchy and ruin? Do you think they don’t know that Russia is on the top of Washington’s hit-list? Do you think they haven’t noticed NATO inching closer to Russia’s borders while foam-at-the-mouth politicians in Washington wave their fists and growl about Hitler Putin and evil Russia?
Of course they’ve noticed. Everyone’s noticed. Everyone knows Washington is on the warpath and its leaders have gone stark raving mad. How could they not notice?[/quote]
This (apparent) ISIS propaganda video is pretty metal. Can you spot Trump in there?
heavy.com/news/2015/11/new-isis- … ube-daesh/
Kinda long and unfocused though. Must be all the Captagon.
Good article on why the US and Western allies are having trouble finding local partners in the fight against ISIS- nobody in the region is worried about them, even their most detested foes; everyone has bigger fish to fry and are for the moment quite happy to see them in place while the various parties in the region- countries, ethnic and religious groups, factions, tribes, militias, private armies- prepare for the big Sunni/Shiite showdown to come; at which point ISIS will be brushed aside and trampled in the rush.
Ryan Dawson explains why the US and Western allies are having trouble finding local partners in the fight against ISIS-
Your interest in understanding Russia while attributing all manner of evil, nefarious plots against the leaders of your own country is remarkable.
…in whatever alternate reality our statesmen inhabit:
politico.com/story/2015/12/s … win-217168
[quote]Other things the State Department is counting as wins: re-establishing ties with Cuba, protecting the Arctic, clinching the Iran nuclear agreement, stopping the Ebola outbreak, committing to U.N. development goals, securing a free trade deal, preserving ocean health, and reaching the climate agreement.
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First that cackling crone, now the guy who thinks he saw Santa Claus in Cambodia. What idiot hires these people?
[quote=“rowland”]…in whatever alternate reality our statesmen inhabit:
politico.com/story/2015/12/s … win-217168
[quote]Other things the State Department is counting as wins: re-establishing ties with Cuba, protecting the Arctic, clinching the Iran nuclear agreement, stopping the Ebola outbreak, committing to U.N. development goals, securing a free trade deal, preserving ocean health, and reaching the climate agreement.
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First that cackling crone, now the guy who thinks he saw Santa Claus in Cambodia. What idiot hires these people?[/quote]
The surge worked, I tell you. The longest war in American history is almost over 990 years ahead of schedule.
m.journal-neo.org/2016/01/24/ira … -betrayal/
[quote]Knowing that Iran will never exist within Washington, Wall Street, London, and Brussels’ “international order” as an obedient client state, a prescription for regime change in Tehran has long been formulated. Best summarized in the 2009 Brookings Institution paper titled, “The Path to Persia: Options for a New American Strategy toward Iran” (.pdf), this regime change formula includes absolutely everything from economic sanctions and US-backed political upheaval, to the use of terrorism and proxy war to undermine and overthrow Iranian sociopolitical stability and eventually the Iranian state itself.
In the lengthy 220 page document, Brookings policymakers acknowledge the necessity to first neutralize Syria before moving against Iran itself. It also prescribes the delisting of US State Department foreign terrorist organizations in order for the US to then arm and back them in a proxy war against Tehran. Among the terrorist organizations mentioned was Mojahedin-e-Khalq (MEK), a terrorist organization guilty of years of violence including the kidnapping and murder of American service members and American civilians. MEK has also continued carrying out terrorist attacks against political and civilian targets in Iran up to present day.
It should be noted that these 2009 “suggestions” eventually manifested themselves as the current, ongoing conflict in Syria and Iraq where US, Saudi, and Turkish-backed terrorists are waging war against Syrian, Iraqi, Iranian, and Russian backed political and military fronts, as well as the eventual delisting of MEK.
It is clear then, that the Brookings paper was more than a collection of mere suggestions. It was an anthology of various operations arrayed against Tehran either ongoing or in the planning stages as of 2009.[/quote]
US and crew up the anti as Turkey and the Saudis threaten to invade Syria:
theguardian.com/world/2016/f … er-strikes
[quote] With the conflict directly drawing in more international players, Turkey’s foreign minister Mevlut Cavusoglu, quoted in Turkish newspapers, said Riyadh and Ankara were coordinating plans to intervene in Syria, where Russia has been backing a successful regime offensive against rebels.
“If there is a strategy (against the Islamic State jihadist group), then Turkey and Saudi Arabia could enter into a ground operation,” he said.
Cavusoglu said Saudi Arabia is also sending planes to the Turkish base of Incirlik, a key hub for US-led coalition operations against IS already used by Britain, France and the United States for cross-border air raids.[/quote]
More than most likely to put pressure Russia at the negotiating table but Russia is not flinching. It is a little concerning though as to how far the anti Assad camp will go to achieve their goal of regime change in Syria.
theguardian.com/world/2016/f … ar-warning
[quote]Efforts are under way in Munich to agree a cessation of hostilities and encourage urgent delivery of humanitarian aid to besieged areas all over Syria. A crunch meeting of countries trying to find an end to the conflict followed a stark warning from Russia that wider military intervention could spark “a new world war”.
Dimitry Medvedev, Russia’s prime minister, was quoted telling Germany’s Handelsblatt daily: “The Americans and our Arab partners must think hard about this – do they want a permanent war? All sides must be forced to the negotiating table instead of sparking a new world war.”
Medvedev was apparently responding to suggestions that Saudi Arabia and other Gulf states might join the US-led campaign against Islamic State in Syria.
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Robert Kennedy confirms the obvious:
sputniknews.com/middleeast/20160 … s-war.html
[quote]In his recent op-ed article for Politico Magazine, US attorney and nephew of US President John Fitzgerald Kennedy — Robert F. Kennedy Jr. wrote that the US decided to remove Syrian President Bashar al-Assad from power after he refused to back a Qatari gas pipeline project.
“If we study the history of America’s relation with Mideast and looking at the US’ violent intervention in Syria, Iraq, Jordan, Saudi Arabia and Egypt over time and the extraordinary and astonishing thing is the solid record of the cataclysmic failure every time we venture there in violent fashion. Most Americans are completely unaware of us attempting to overthrow the democratically elected government in Syria, contrary to our own state department policy and contrary to American values.”[/quote]