Why a Taiwanese woman gave birth on a plane

Feel-good story turns sour. Wait for the Republicans to talk anchor babies again.

[quote]Why a Taiwanese woman gave birth on a plane — only to be separated from her child

Somewhere over the Pacific Ocean, on October 8th, a Taiwanese woman with the surname Jian went into labor on China Airlines Flight 8. Luckily for her, a UCLA doctor was on the same flight; and with the assistance of the flight crew, Dr. Angelica Zen was able to deliver the baby. (The delivery was captured on a cell-phone video.) And the flight, which was supposed to go to Los Angeles, ended up touching down in Alaska instead so the woman could get postpartum care.

The baby is still in the United States. But the mother has been deported back to Taiwan. She’s been criticized by Taiwanese government officials. And she might end up having to pay the Taiwanese government (which is the majority owner of China Airlines) to cover the cost of diverting the plane to Alaska.

This sounds incredibly harsh — and maybe it is. But the reason that government officials and the media in Taiwan are so upset with this woman is that they suspect she lied to the airline (and possibly to the US government) about her pregnancy in order to get onto that plane, in the hopes of giving birth in the United States. In other words, she was trying to have an “anchor baby” — and it might have backfired. Here’s why Taiwan is so concerned.

“Birth tourism” is real, and it’s a problem — particularly in East Asia

Pretty much anyone born in the United States is a United States citizen, regardless of her parents’ immigration status. Some immigration hawks worry that this is being exploited: people are deliberately having babies in the US so that the child can turn around and sponsor his parents to become legal US residents. (For the record, this would take a long, long time; you can’t sponsor any relatives until you turn 21.)

In the United States, when people talk about “illegal immigration” they’re usually talking about immigration from Latin America, and when they talk about “anchor babies” they’re usually talking about children born in the US to Latin American unauthorized-immigrant parents (even though, in most cases, the immigrants have already settled in the US before having children).

But as we’ve written, the only evidence that people are actually coming to the US for the purpose of having US citizen children — otherwise known as “birth tourism,” since parents arrive on six-month tourist visas — comes from East Asia. When politicians do acknowledge this, as Jeb Bush did in August, they do it in a clumsy and racially-inflected way that casts aspersions on Asian Americans. But that doesn’t stop it from being a real problem.

The “birth tourism” industry caters primarily to Chinese parents-to-be. The Chinese government says 10,000 babies were born in the US to Chinese tourist parents in 2012; more recent, unofficial estimates are higher. (There’s a very thorough recent feature about this from Benjamin Carlson of Rolling Stone.) But there’s a large market for birth tourism in Taiwan as well.

The Taiwanese woman may have had to lie to US and airline officials to board the plane

Having a baby in the United States isn’t illegal. But the US government has started to crack down on birth tourism by going after parents-to-be for lying to US officials.

Chinese citizens can’t come to the US without a tourist visa, and Taiwanese citizens have to get a tourist visa if they’ll be in the US for more than 90 days. (Most birth tourists come for more like six months — giving them time in advance of giving birth as well as afterwards.) To get a tourist visa, a family has to pass an interview with a US embassy official in their home country — and the embassy official can ask any questions he wants to make sure the family plans to use the visa for its intended purpose (tourism).

With the rise of birth tourism, embassy officials have started questioning Chinese women who look like they could be pregnant; when the women travel to the US, some Customs and Border Protection officers do the same. (There are also stateside crackdowns on the “hotels” where birth tourists stay.) Lying to either of these officials is illegal. So would-be birth tourists who get asked about it, and say they’re not having a baby, are breaking US law — and invalidating the terms of their visa.

Taiwanese citizens who want to stay for less than 90 days get to skip past of this process. That’s because Taiwan is one of the countries in the US’ Visa Waiver Program — which allows short visits from certain countries without a visa at all. It’s a gesture of trust that countries have good enough security not to allow their citizens to abuse their privileges. Even so, though, they still get questioned upon entering the US by Customs and Border Protection officials — who can deny them entry into the US.

We don’t know most of the details in the case of the Taiwanese woman: how far along she was in her pregnancy; whether she had a tourist visa for a longer stay or was planning to take a quick trip without a visa; whether she’d told anyone she wasn’t pregnant; or why she got deported. But the facts certainly fit the hypothesis that she’s a failed “birth tourist” who told a US official she wasn’t pregnant (or at least was prepared to lie about it if asked by US officials upon landing) then blew her cover on the way into the country.

This is what’s behind frustration with the woman in Taiwan. At a time when the US is already cracking down on “birth tourism,” this is an embarrassing case for the Taiwanese government to have to deal with, and one that might lead to the US becoming more skeptical of Taiwanese citizens generally — or even booting the country our of the Visa Waiver Program entirely. Certainly, the fact that the US deported this woman so quickly — mere days after she gave birth — indicates that the government is trying to send the message that it takes birth tourism seriously.

While we don’t know if she had already broken US law, we do know that she almost certainly had to lie to get onto the plane. Most birth tourists head to the US a few months before the baby is due (to avoid this exact situation). This woman apparently did not (possibly in order to keep her stay in the US under 90 days). If the Taiwan Airlines crew had known the truth about her pregnancy, they might not have let her onto the plane for her own safety. This has motivated speculation that the woman might also have lied to the flight crew. That could justify forcing her to pay the cost of the diversion; the flight crew and her fellow passengers boarded a flight to Los Angeles without knowing there was a chance they’d have to take a time-intensive and costly detour to Alaska.

Why has the mother been separated from her baby?

According to reports, even though the Taiwanese mother has been deported, the baby is still in the United States in the care of a friend.

Parents of US citizens are deported with depressing frequency: at the peak of deportations during President Obama’s first term, 200,000 parents of citizens were deported over two years. The overwhelming majority of those were unauthorized immigrants who were settled in the US, and whose children had lived in the US for their whole lives — so the children typically stay in the US in the care of another relative or adult, or in foster care. As you’d expect, dealing with a parent’s deportation can be traumatic — but parents often figure it would be less traumatic than uprooting their children to a country they’ve never seen.

In this case, though, it’s not clear the child will be raised in the US.

For one thing, even after all that trouble, it’s not even clear the child is a US citizen. It depends on where the plane was when he was delivered. If the plane was in US airspace — above a location on US soil, or above ocean that’s within US territory (a 12-mile stretch from the shore) — he’s a citizen. But he has to prove it to the US government:

Generally speaking, U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) would require some documentation of the birth, generally an excerpt of the ship’s/aircraft’s medical log or master/captain’s log, reflecting the time, latitude, and longitude when the birth occurred.

Even if he is a citizen, though, he might just be staying in the US until it’s safe for him to fly to Taiwan. Most birth tourists want US citizenship for their children so that the kids can hopefully attend an American school down the road— private schools are cheaper for US citizens, and citizens are eligible for financial aid in college. But they care more about sending their children to school than about settling the family in the United States.

This runs counter to the “anchor baby” stereotype. But it’s easy to see why the US government wants to crack down on it: at a time when most students struggle to pay for college, and many public schools make a lot of revenue off international students, it’s a serious financial hit when students living abroad get aid. And the more concerned the US is about it, the more pressure it will put on Taiwan.

CORRECTION: This article originally stated that the Taiwanese woman would have needed a tourist visa to enter the US. That’s only true for visits of more than 90 days. The article has been corrected to reflect Taiwan’s participation in the Visa Waiver Program, and the ramifications of that for this case. It’s also been corrected to reflect the age at which a US citizen can sponsor parents for green cards: 21, not 18.[/quote]

http://www.vox.com/2015/10/25/9604468/baby-plane-taiwanese

So if the baby is born in mid-air, can it be “anchored” in the US? How does that work?

She’s Taiwanese? From the reports I saw about it, I thought she was Chinese.

In any case, she was on a China Airlines plane, which is a Taiwanese airline. So shouldn’t the baby still technically be in Taiwan at the time of birth?

I think it just depends on whose air space you are in.

The fierceness of the reaction in cyberspace is astonishing. Relevant to us atogas is the bitterness towards double nationals. Suffice to say, while this article manifests a rather laughable fear of “Asian anchor babies” taking advantage of the educational system in the US, the Taiwanese demand this kid cannot take advantage of health system NHI or laobao, among others. Funny how that works.

BTW, I am also not sure how the nationality issue goes, but when I worked for a US airline, we were told a kid born on a plane would have free passage on our planes for life. That was the only advantage at the time, but this was before 911.

I think the article misses the reality of why Taiwanese want their children to have another passport: to escape China’s clutches. If you ask around, that was the same fear that drove tnousands to flee to Latin America and other not so desurable places as a stopover to the promised land of the US. Now as the “inevitable” reunion looms ahead again, we wull see this more and more as far as the coin goes.

As to China, we have the thousands of indentured slaves to Chinese mafia, snakehead business to Europe and US full speed ahead in spite of the economic gains. One alsovwonders why…but not for long. If their own people scape by the boatload, what about this island’s folks?

The plane landed in Alaska and she was given an Alaska birth certificate. On the basis of Alaskan law saying it didn’t matter that the birth occurred outside the US 12 mile territorial waters. The plane next landed in Alaska so on that basis the child was given an Alaskan birth certificate. So that means the child is considered to be born in Alaska. And last I heard Alaska is part of the United States so for sure she is an American citizen (or could apply to be one). Alaska would argue fiercely if the US govt does not grant the Child US citizenship as that would be considered a slight to Alaska.

American states wield a lot of power. And they don’t always like what the Fed tell them to do. The Alaskan authorities have already given her an Alaskan birth certificate. So that is the end of the story as far as her being eligible to US citizenship.

I thought Taiwanese don’t often do this? But one of my Taiwanese buds did this to get his daughter US citizenship. Had his wife live with buds in the USA about six months before her expected birth.

Maybe US law should change to where the parents (or one of them) has to have been living in the USA for five years before giving birth for the child to claim US citizenship. But that would run counter to the constitution. And be unfair to some babies. US born is US born. End of story.

Didn’t matter to Alaska whether the baby was born 50 miles out from the shore or 5000 miles out from its shores. The fact that it next landed in Alaska meant an Alaskan birth certificate. And that means the right to US citizenship.

This has been going on for years, mostly middle class who can’t afford to buy their way in. When the kids get to 21 they can sponsor the green card to the parents. I’ve known dual nationals
In Taiwan and they tend to get treated better with better pay, it’s a thing in Taiwan.

Not quite. Whenever ABCs who retain their Taiwanese household registration need some cheap meds or cannot come up with the cash for an American college, they suddenly find their way back. Taiwanese have a habit of socialising their problems and freeloading on any benefit wherever in the world they go. A civic attitude is not part of the Taiwanese mindset; why improve this island if you can just hop on a plane to America?

Koreans and Taiwanese used to be the biggest group of birth tourists until the Chinese started traveling more. Now the Chinese kind of dominate that industry.

I find it interesting that at a time when Europeans are getting mad at refugees entering the country to take advantage of generous welfare benefits, Americans are pissed off at kids of well-off Asians who will likely be a huge net contributor to tax revenue entering the country. If rich Chinese want to anchor their kid in the US and they end up buying a house in Arcadia, driving around in a Porche they bought from a local dealer, blowing their money on expensive clothes they picked up at South Coast Plaza, and buying a million boba teas in SGV, I don’t see that as a bad thing.

This particular incident is kind of embarrassing for Taiwanese officials, though, since Taiwan just got Visa Waiver status from the US a few years ago.

Not quite. Whenever ABCs who retain their Taiwanese household registration need some cheap meds or cannot come up with the cash for an American college, they suddenly find their way back. Taiwanese have a habit of socialising their problems and freeloading on any benefit wherever in the world they go. A civic attitude is not part of the Taiwanese mindset; why improve this island if you can just hop on a plane to America?[/quote]

Not quite. Whenever ABCs who retain their Taiwanese household registration need some cheap meds or cannot come up with the cash for an American college, they suddenly find their way back. Taiwanese have a habit of socialising their problems and freeloading on any benefit wherever in the world they go. A civic attitude is not part of the Taiwanese mindset; why improve this island if you can just hop on a plane to America?[/quote]

Oh, that is just SOP. I used to find if funny how Taiwanese came back to the island for everything ranging from dental care to finding a wife. They do double dip, all right, and that pisses offf the local working masses that can’t do the same. But the extra passport is mostly and firstly insurance: if the proverbial manure hits the fan, they are covered. Sure, might help their social status and give them a leg up in showbiz, but the original question remains: why do they do it? If they have the money, they do it, if they don’t, they find a way.

Remember the 70s and 80s when the Taiwanese shipped their male kids abroad alone so they wouldn’t be drafted and eventually fight as so they said they were doomed?

Why does the US grant nationality to children from a tourist mom when other countries do not?

This is where I’m stuck. Don’t get the logic behind this law.

[quote=“cyberguppy”]Why does the US grant nationality to children from a tourist mom when other countries do not?

This is where I’m stuck. Don’t get the logic behind this law.[/quote]

Goes back to English common law. Where someone born in a kingdom became the subject of the king, excluding diplomats there on diplomatic business. Wasn’t set in stone until after the Civil War when the US government needed to guarantee that the newly freed black slaves could not be denied citizenship. And thus we have birthright citizenship enshrined in the US Constitution.

I recall reading in"Midnight’s Children" where Salman Rushdie told of how as a young boy he wanted to go down and go on the tours of US warships visiting Bombay, but was embarrassed by the number of hugely pregnant women who thought if their child was born on a US Navy ship it would be eligible for US citizenship; don’t know if their belief was true

The fucking idiot could have killed her baby or herself. What a monumental loser.

Here endeth the thread.

Yeah, it is definitely a thing. I saw an article about the “birth tourism” industry in the US. According to industry figures around 60,000 Chinese women traveled to the States to give birth in 2014. They didn’t give any numbers on Taiwanese, or whether Taiwanese were included within that 60,000, but I reckon it would be a significant number relative to Taiwan’s birth rate. The article mentions that those with more money can simply invest half a million US$ and get a green card that way.

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Recently my wife received some rather unfriendly comments about her impending move to Australia. They weren’t directly insulting her but questioning why she would consider moving to Australia. What’s the benefit? It’s so expensive! The whole country has no economy except farming. You won’t find a job. It’s boring there. Etc etc. Lot’s of negativity.

I think the fierce reaction against this particular lady giving birth on the plane is obviously justified on the grounds that she put herself and her baby at risk (not to mention screwing so many passengers around with the flight’s diversion). But the story also highlights the fact that some Taiwanese are prepared to take extreme measures to get their kids a better nationality. Perhaps part of the anger stems from the embarrassment that this fact is in the international spotlight? After all, lots of Taiwanese women fly to California to give birth. And seeing that tens of thousands of Chinese women do it every year too it can’t simply be driven by fear of the ROC becoming a defunct political entity. Many of the Chinese “birth tourists” interviewed by the media say they want access to America’s education system. They also want clean air and the rule of law, and other trappings of developed society. Voting with your feet is a kind of democracy. What does it say about a society, or an education system, when many of the better off people decide to leave it?