Oh you know what I mean, don’t twist words now.[quote=“Rockefeller, post:115, topic:166200”]
You just contradicted yourself.
How, I just said there are of course incidences of inequality and we can look at them individually and it’s not this whole system of misogynistic patriarchy thats oppressing them. It’s an individual or individuals in that particular incident.
So how do you expect it to change if not by law? You still havent answer this key question.
Actually some of these life risking jobs pay more than a shitty white collar job in a cubical. I’ve met people who enjoys working on a oil rig compared to a office job. Yes, most people would probably go for the white collar job, but others do choose it. And i’m just pointing out, whenever we talk about unfairness, people and you for this case point to the CEOs and not a coal miner. Why aren’t you pushing for more female coal miners? Why didn’t you post a stat on the percentage of coal miners who are female? Lets me honest here now.
Yes, better check my privilege PC principle. Had to throw that ad hominem in there. The situation i’m in or born into doesn’t disqualify my position or i can say maybe your perspective from a certain privilege also makes it hard for you to really see the issue and therefore also wrong or not accurate.
And are you admitting your a socialist/marxist? if so, i’m pretty much done since I’ve already read what you are probably thinking years ago.
Reproductive laws has to do with human rights, it’s complicated and why is it only a woman can decided to say it’s ok to abort a baby or fetus or call it a fetus and not a baby. Is it not a violation of human rights to kill a person? When is a baby a person or a fetus, there are ethical dilemmas to this. This my body my rights is too simple in my opinion, such an approach disregards the role of men as co-creators of life and the life-changing trauma that losing a child in such a deliberate way can have on men along with financial responsibilities a man is legally required to have by law. And before you say men can wear contraceptives, females also have many options for contraceptives and both parties engaged in an activity that they willing knew could produce this consequence. Sorry, lets say around a certain point a fetus is a fetus and a human being a human being. How about lets say right before the baby is born…it’s still part of your body, surely you don’t think a women has the right to kill a baby right before the baby is born?
then like I said, women would dominate the work force if they can work equally for less. It’s a ridiculous notion that a simple econ 101 course would have taught anyone could not be true or we would see it. In a competitive work market, wages are determined by supply and demand for labor. Both the people hiring and people providing labor are price takers…so if women are taking jobs for less than the market value of wages compared to their counterparts. They are doing so willingly or are intrinsically bad at negotiating wages. Or firms would all hire women because they can pay them less. I can’t believe i’m using econ 101 to explain what a bullshit notion you just said is. If you don’t understand, theres probably basic econ videos on how wages work in a competitive work market.
I listened, and I find it most of what they said misinformation. And often like the original article posted using them as proof of their oppression when it’s not even real news!!! Should I just stay silent? In most of the free world, you are going to have your ideas challenged.
Like saying women make less, I believe its 21% less. But how did they did to this number, if you ever took a high level stats class you would know that matters. They basically came to that number by taking every single full time worker (full time is 35 hours) without breaking it down into fields or even taking account hours worked over 35 which statically men on average work more hours not including time off from pregnancies. Even though the number is statistically accurate, it’s very misleading and isn’t by any means an accurate representations of the wage gap. Like you pointed out earlier when I said that if I divide Fortune 500 CEOs into males and females, females actually make more is not a of great statistical value. Perpapse look at how the other statistics are reached. It’s really easy to manipulate statistics, it’s actually why business stats majors are paid a lot. They’re got at finding ways to reach valueable statistics and filter out bad ones.
Again if you took a basic econ class, or youre a business owner. If you can pay anyone literally 25% less, you would make so much more profit. Unless youre saying businesses are really bad at math and not good at making money.
On the other side of the coin, misinformation towards the wrong purpose and marches have also lead to calamity. So no, you don’t just mindlessly accept something as true.
i’ve never said that.
than like I said, public elected officials have terms and you can rally the next senate election to vote for people you think would do a better job. Thats how a democratic republic works. They don’t have a permanent seat, but remember women voted for them…or just didn’t vote. So don’t blame it on men.
No, but i’m making a point that you disqualified these men from being able to for no other reason than being men. Did not give me a single reason other than they are crusty old men.
Perhaps you should get a refresher yourself, there have been women’s marches and actually things got done. Actually they marched for laws in equal rights and got them. Tell me what the new marches are trying to accomplish. Like be specific because it’s all over the place. There have also been forgettable and ideologically flawed marches that we don’t remember or even read about in history. Not every single movement and march has ideas that work or are right.
And vast majority of men love women, do you catch my drift? Has nothing to do with people spreading misinformation about the issue at hand.