Hello there everyone,
I’ve been reading this forum up and down, through and through, trying to find out what I need to know to become a citizen of Taiwan, however, there is very little help for my case.
I’m currently 18 years old living in Taiwan, I have been here since Jan. 2 2006, and have been living here with an ARC for almost a year. I will be up for my first renewal on Apr. 30.
The reason I’m here is because of joining family. HOWEVER, my family is NOT Taiwanese. My mother is a foreigner here as well, although it might be quite hard to convince her to give up her citizenship, I am willing to do it, to gain citizenship in Taiwan through naturalization.
I know that someone is going to mention the fact that I will have to go to Millitary, but I have no problems with that.
I have already graduated from University, HOWEVER, my degrees will NOT be recognized by ROC gov’t, because of the age that I graduated from University (17). So this will lead to another problem when I have to renew my paperwork when I turn 20.
However, I would like to know now, if it is possible for me to give up my Canadian citizenship, and then become a Taiwanese citizen? Before I turn 20?
My 19th birthday is coming soon, April 30, and I would really like to know more information.
I’m currently living in PingZhen City (close to ZhongLi City) in TaoYuan County. My Chinese isn’t bad, as I try to teach myself as much as possible, however, my Chinese isn’t at a level for communicating what I want (which it to become a citizen). I know where all the proper offices are for the city, and for the county, but just need some help with what I need to ask for, and such.
Also, I read that no Canadian has become Taiwanese through Naturalization. If this is false, if the person who DID do this could please contact me, I’d love to know more. IF they kept Canadian citizenship.
I did some reading on some Canadian Citizenship Law… and here’s a nice little thing to look at…
PART II: LOSS OF CITIZENSHIP
Renunciation of citizenship
9. (1) A citizen may, on application, renounce his citizenship if he
(a) is a citizen of a country other than Canada or, if his application is accepted, will become a citizen of a country other than Canada;
(b) is not the subject of a declaration by the Governor in Council made pursuant to section 20;
(c) is not a minor;
(d) is not prevented from understanding the significance of renouncing citizenship by reason of the person having a mental disability; and
(e) does not reside in Canada.
Ministerial discretion to waive requirements
(2) The Minister may, in the Minister’s discretion, waive on compassionate grounds the requirements of paragraph (1)(d) or (e).
Certificate of renunciation
(3) Where an application for renunciation is approved, the Minister shall issue a certificate of renunciation to the applicant and the applicant ceases to be a citizen after the expiration of the day on which the certificate is issued or such later day as the certificate may specify.
R.S., 1985, c. C-29, s. 9; 1992, c. 21, s. 8.
What I want to know from this is:
How does the certificate work? Does this mean that the certificate is post-dated, so as to give me a certain amount of time to repeal my decision of renouncing my citizenship?
I will try to contact a lawyer, who hopefully will be able to help me (for free laughs good luck, heh?)… find out the answers to this strange law.
There is also some new changed been made to the Citizenship Act, and I’m not sure how this will affect renunciation. If anyone knows what is happening with this, please also contact me.
What kind of things are there required to become a citizen?
I know that I have to have lived here for 5 years, but what happens if I am a minor, do those rules still apply?
My mother has been living here for almost 9 years, if I can convince her to go through the Naturalization process, can we both apply at the same time, even if this means that when I’m 20 I’ll still be in the middle of the process?
A little off-topic question
What kind of things can I do being under-age in Taiwan? and being a foreigner (for now)…?
Is it possible to get a work - permit?
What kinds of work-permits are there?
Back on topic
I also remember reading that if you are NOT married to a Taiwanese person (which will never happen, I’m gay), that you need to have a job that is can’t remember the wording … necesary for Taiwan?
Does anyone have a list of occupations that would be acceptable?
IF I do give up my Canadian citizenship (as I am of the legal age in Canada), WHAT would happen if I was in Taiwan like this? CAN they kick me out of the country? and if so… where do I go? What kind of possibilities are there for me down this road?
Please don’t tell me … you won’t know until you try… because that’s a road I’d like to take some caution with before I attempt (or until I have no other possibilities)…
Living here under my mother, does that count toward the 5 (or 7) years for the requirements of Naturalization? WITH / WITHOUT having an ARC?
Do I need to have a job for all 5/7 years? or do I just have to prove the last year previous to my application?
I know I seem really eager to do this, and it can make me suffer in some ways, however, I’m doing my best.
Does anyone know if I can put a house into my name… at my age? If so, what do I need to do in order to do this (having a co-signer who is Taiwanese is also fine) but I remember that the requirements are 5M in property value? I live in a brand-new neighbourhood, and I’m sure that it’s worth more than 5M, I just have to have my name somewhere on some documents, correct?
I’m sorry for floating all over the place, it’s a litle exciting for me.
I would love to meet with anyone who has already done this process and has an ROC ID. Apaprt from wanting to see it, I just really have a sense of respect for you (I tend to hate most foreigners in this country)… It was almost shocking to think that there were other people in this country who didn’t regard it as just a place for sex/drugs/money or the many other frivelous things that foreigners want it to be … sigh …
I hate being asked if I’m from the US. It really makes me want to kill some people, I always tell them that I’m Taiwanese, and they think that I don’t understand the question they asked me. I want to make this a real life option for me. If I have to give up my Canadian citizenship, I suppose it’s a small price, however, I’m still quite young, and just want to know what kind of reprocussions this will have on me.
I appreciate any and ALL help that I can get…
Irshaad Bijan Adatia
–Yes, this is a REAL chinese name–
P.S>> Why doesn’t this board allow Chinese characters? It would really help all of us IN Taiwan, rather than pinyin, which makes me go crazy as well … ciao~~