Hi,
I thought I’d start a thread on the current status of these elections.
Who do you think is in front of either election so far?
Regards
Michael G
My forecast for the vote in Taipei is:
Hau 43%
Hsieh 34%
Soong 12%
Chou and Li to get a few percent each, and Dogman to get less than 1%.
In Kaohsiung, I expect Huang to pip Chen by just a couple of percentage points.
My forecast for the vote in Taipei is:
Hau 43%
Hsieh 34%
Soong 12%
Chou and Li to get a few percent each, and Dogman to get less than 1%.
In Kaohsiung, I expect Huang to pip Chen by just a couple of percentage points.
[quote=“Omniloquacious”]My forecast for the vote in Taipei is:
Hau 43%
Hsieh 34%
Soong 12%
Chou and Li to get a few percent each, and Dogman to get less than 1%.
In Kaohsiung, I expect Huang to pip Chen by just a couple of percentage points.[/quote]
I think the same except not so many votes for Hsieh in Taipei. We’ll know soon!
sidfh
Pro-green station FTV has an exit poll, for what that’s worth:
-Taipei: Hau 57 percent, Hsieh 33, Soong 6
-Kaohsiung: Huang 50, Chen Ju 46.
As to the results coming in, as usual it’s complete chaos: one station has only hundreds of votes counted, another is already giving more than 10,000 votes to some candidates. And the Central Election Commission site isn’t moving much.
On a side note, the Huang people came around to my mother inlaw’s village a few days ago buying votes. Ma took $700NT for a Huang vote, and my two sister inlaws were not happy because they are both employees of the city!
700NT for a vote… they are dreadfully cheap over here…
Ma’s definitely old school.
You know that it’s your duty to report this to the police …
Hi,
Looking at www.cec.gov.tw it appears Frank is trailing Hau by about 10% up to 30% is different suburbs.
I have to ask, after 8 years of nothing happening in Taipei under Ma and KMT, what are the residents there wanting?
Status Quo doesn’t necessary apply to neighbourhoods!
Is Taipei that dominated by Blues?
Regards
Michael
Stupid question: how does vote buying actually work? How do they know you didn’t take 700NT from everyone and just not bother voting, or vote for your opponent? Doesn’t seem like the best way to get things done.
From my limited observation, it doesn’t really work like that. Most people won’t change their vote; it’s more of an incentive to get fair-weather types and neutrals out to the polls- once you’ve taken the money, you’re pretty-well obligated to go vote. The candidates have poll-watchers, so if you’ve pocketed the cash you’ll be getting a contact asking you when you’re going to go cast your ballot.
The people handling the goodies generally know the neighbourhood pretty well, so they don’t bother handing out money to people they know lean the other way.
The flip-side is if you don’t buy votes some (old-timers especially) will say “why should I bother to go out and vote for that cheap bastard? He/she didn’t give me a damn thing.” They’re so used to it that it’s a sign of disrespect if they don’t get anything.
I guess mostly it’s the borough warden that does the round to buy the votes … often KMT
Hmmm, I thought that the CSB situation would haul the DPP down in Kaohsiung as well.
Glad to see that ******* Soong crashing to ignominious defeat- best guess, he’ll be showing up in the Mainland next, trying to sleaze some power out of the boys in Beijing- hopefully they’ll also realise he’s a worthless has-been.
Final Results
Taipei
Hau Lon-Bing 54%
Hsieh Chang-Ting 41%
James Soong 3%
Kaoshiung
Chen Ju 49.7%
Huang Juin-Ing 49.1%
There was only a 1120 Vote Difference
City District Reps By Place Nationally
1.KMT
2.DPP
3.PFP
4.NP
5.TSU
6.Independents
Final Results
Taipei
Hau Lon-Bing 54%
Hsieh Chang-Ting 41%
James Soong 3%
Kaoshiung
Chen Ju 49.7%
Huang Juin-Ing 49.1%
There was only a 1120 Vote Difference
City District Reps By Place Nationally
1.KMT
2.DPP
3.PFP
4.NP
5.TSU
6.Independents
Scuzzball Soong has “bowed out of politics.” Finally. All this time, people thought this “astute wily fox” had a plan. Turns out he just had no idea how much he was hated. What a dumb fuck.
Despite Hsieh loosing, it was the first time DPP got more than 40% of the votes in Taipei… which is something to be considered…
Another side note… Ma accused CSB of being unfair (or something like that) because CSB refused to comment on the bribing accusations over Huang…and CTI is running a special on DPP bribing (specially the bus bribing case last year), by yours truly Sissy Chen…
Yeah, Hsieh got more votes than I thought he would. He’s a big name though. He probably did have a legitimate shot at it.
In the same way though, the KMT dude in Kaoshiong finishing as close as he did says something also.
I chuckled seeing that little nutcase Clara Chou finish dead last in Taipei, even behind Ke Si-Hai. That’s gotta hurt. 