2020 USA Presidential Election (Alleged) Vote Fraud

Waiting for a rainy day?

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The senate audit liaison to the Maricopa audit, appointed by the AZ Senate, is now permanently banned - by the AZ Senate - from the audit building. What a shitshow.

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It’s like they want to draaaaag this thing out. :face_with_raised_eyebrow:

Silent now:

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Dominion reply to second subpoena to compel them to give administrator access in Arizona,

Translation, only Dominion or someone they trust is allowed to check the administrator settings of the machines used for counting in Arizona elections.

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Uh, no. They issued a public records request to a private company, and the company is saying hey dummy, we’re a private company and public records requests don’t apply to us.

Assuming that’s what was issued, why don’t they issue a actual legal subpoena?

Maricopa letter to AZ senate (those maricopa folks sure know how to make entertaining legal responses):

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:grinning: Let’s run elections where the only people who can check the configurations of the software used for counting are the company that designed it and people they trust, like two companies one of which is run by an ex employee.

That’s stupid and you know it, you may need a certified company to certify the software but this is more like reading the milometer of a car, you don’t need some special qualification to read their logs.

The more they dig in and refuse transparency the more apparent it is they have something to hide and we should all agree elections should be transparent.

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No, for the 11tybillionth time - but if we want transparency and faith in an audit, it should be run by a firm that’s reputable, without an agenda, with process in place (that don’t change midway through), actual criteria of what they’re looking for, and some vague semblance of adherence to security and the rules that are in place. This sham audit doesn’t hit any of those marks.

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I’m pretty sure they can read a log off a computer, pretty sure a 6th grader can do that.

Everyone should want free fair and transparent elections, until I start hearing the same wish expressed and followed up by both parties I will assume they don’t actually want that.

Their actions speak louder than words. People should expect that their vote should be verifiable and transparent, the direction some are moving in are to ensure less transparency, to punish people who question the results of opaque elections held by their overlords.

You that sure, really? Regarding the same clowns that claimed not deleted data was deleted? The same ones wanting routers because… what, they’re going to have packet data from year ago or something? :wink:

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Yes, I am 100% sure. You need a qualified company to certify the software, that is because they need to understand the algorithms required and ensure they meet industry specifications. Kind of like how you might need specialists to measure performance of an engine in a car to make sure it meets industry specification’s.

You don’t need any particular experience to read a milometer if you want to know how far the car has travelled, in that way it’s like Dominion logs. Anyone can do that. If they say otherwise they are lying. You don’t even need to actually touch the actually machines, they already mirrored the drives and any reading of logs is done on mirrored devices.

In fact if the software guys are competent they already got access and know everything they need to know already.

…ah, fuckit.

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Don’t believe everything you hear on the MSM, they push an obvious narrative on the Nina guys, I doubt they had much if any experience auditing an election but then again auditing an election has never been done by anyone before.

making a big hoopla over the color of pens just goes to show how pathetic they are, it was something which was switched for the right color pens before the actual ballots were on the floor, but talk about grasping at straws to discredit the audit.

Don’t you want free fair and transparent elections? Or you prefer the ones where only your overlords get to count and check the results?

I’m listening to the cyber ninja guys themselves, and their inability to explain commenting what the f their doing. I’m also listening to the Maricopa Republicans, who sure seem like they have a better understanding of whats going on than three cyber ninja guys.

It’s something that could spoil ballots. That the guy in charge on the floor didn’t know about when a reporter pointed out out. That sure sounds like a big fucking deal in and audit.

Yes, I do. A sham audit doesn’t help with that - it hurts it.

If it were a sham audit. I expect other audits will take place in other States if this audit brings up discrepancies by other teams.

You don’t want to accept the possibility, no matter how small that maybe, just maybe something a little shady went down in this election.

I mean, you do get pretty much everyone in Washington DC wanted Trump gone right? Establishment Republicans, Democrats, intelligence agencies, media, big donors from multi national corporations, overseas partners hell even overseas enemies like China and Iran wanted him gone.

A sham audit isn’t going to bring clarity to that if it were the case.

You’ve not been paying attention to US politics if you think that.

You don’t give the possibility that it’s not a sham. Additional audits done by different teams in other states would give clarity to the question if it was or was not a sham, that is if they find notable discrepancies. A few votes here or thee is a nothing burger, nothing short of massive fraud is going to be anything anyone cares about.

Do go on and explain why you disagree. “I think you are wrong” is not much of a compelling argument.

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Nope, because real audits don’t do things make up and change procedures on the fly without telling people why. They also don’t do things like say they do background checks and hire nonpartisan auditors, then hire someone who was actually on the ballot, and shift the blame to a temp agency for the hiring. Sham.

There’s plenty of trump ball-lickers still around, so I’m not sure what explanation needs to be done to say you’re won’t everyone in d.c.,.media, big donors, etc wanted Trump out. Take Gaetz and Jordan, fox, cpac, devos, Beal, etc, etc. You’re just not paying attention if you don’t see the support.

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Shame, just means you take a closed minded approach to things. Everything falls somewhere in the middle of possibilities, could the election have been on the up and up, sure. Could it have had irregularities, yup. Is there evidence of irregularities, I would say yes. Evidence that point to something suspect with Dominion or the voting system again I would say yes.

Again you approach such a question with a closed mind. Gatez and Jorden are hardly the establishment Republicans, think more along the lines of Liz Cheney, Mitch McConnell and yes Lindsey Graham. Although if your issue out of the groups I mentioned is only with establishment Republicans, I think that battle is easy enough to prove but better suited to the thread discussing what’s going on with Republicans, in short they are in deep doggy doo doo, Democrats and those hanging on to every word the MSM tells them think they know why, but they don’t and would be an instance where they listen instead of talking all the time to find out what the dynamics are.

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No, it means my eyes are open to what was happening. Having an open mind doesn’t mean believing every piece of shit shovelled your way. How do you explain things like changing procedures in the middle of an audit with no explanation - like the uv lights ? You either have procedures in place that you’re going to apply equally, or you don’t, and you’re just making shit up.

Lindsey was licking trump’s balls,.so that doesn’t support your point. And you can’t say everyone wanted Trump out, then exclude everyone who didn’t by saying they’re no true Scot.

Huh?

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