# 2024.8.22 Dual Nationality Petition - Updates Only

**URL:** <https://tw.forumosa.com/t/2024-8-22-dual-nationality-petition-updates-only/242455>\
**Category:** Taiwan Politics\
**Tags:** naturalization, dual-nationality\
**Created:** [July 23, 2024, 12:09pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/2024-8-22-dual-nationality-petition-updates-only/242455 "2024-07-23T12:09:10Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![jidanni](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/jidanni/32/175309_2.png) [@jidanni](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/jidanni)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2024, 12:09pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/2024-8-22-dual-nationality-petition-updates-only/242455/1 "2024-07-23T12:09:10Z")

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…There, we will formally launch the Dual Nationality Taiwan campaign -an advocacy plan calling for legislative reform that allows permanent residents (APRC holders) a pathway to citizenship without having to renounce their original citizenship(s).

> **[給在台灣永久居留的外國人一個平等歸化台灣國籍的機會-
	提點子
      -公共政策網路參與平臺](https://join.gov.tw/idea/detail/951c745d-4484-4923-953f-4cdaefe7f344)**

> **[Crossroads 社團法人台灣全球連結發展協會](https://www.facebook.com/CrossroadsTaiwan/posts/pfbid0278SKvpJWb9iq7rz7zCd4kJhet2HWbaCvviW7Trnc4DJAhWLsv3kGiEAFVYYdX2hGl)**
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> Crossroads is proud to be collaborating with CommonWealth Magazine 天下雜誌 , 歐洲在臺商務協會 European Chamber of Commerce Taiwan - ECCT, The Community Services Center - Taipei, All Hands Taiwan, Forward Taiwan...

_Mod edit: Added campaign link to OP_

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**Author:** ![Marco](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/marco/32/179744_2.png) [@Marco](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Marco)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2024, 7:42am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/2024-8-22-dual-nationality-petition-updates-only/242455/720 "2024-09-04T07:42:56Z")

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Follow the discussion here!

> [@2024 August Dual Nationality Petition Open Discussion](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/2024-august-dual-nationality-petition-open-discussion/243828/2):
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> Is this the same as being talked about here?

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**Author:** ![Marco](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/marco/32/179744_2.png) [@Marco](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Marco)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2024, 7:43am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/2024-8-22-dual-nationality-petition-updates-only/242455/721 "2024-09-04T07:43:19Z")

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Pinned on September 4, 2024, 7:43am UTC



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**Author:** ![foc](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/f/6f9a4e/32.png) [@foc](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/foc)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2024, 9:11am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/2024-8-22-dual-nationality-petition-updates-only/242455/722 "2024-08-21T09:11:51Z")

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53 signatures so far today. We need 4,948 more over the next 60 days to get a formal government response.

@Marco is right. We need as many Taiwanese citizens to sign this as possible. Please ask your spouse, children, friends, and colleague to sign.

Let’s be realistic. The Ministry of the Interior is going to say no and repeat all of its old reasons such as national security and loyalty. That is the Ministry’s policy and the government will almost certainly defer to the Ministry.

The only way to get this done will be to have legislators amend the Nationality Act. The petition and the event tomorrow are just the beginning. Eventually, we will have to _ **take to the streets** _ for this one. That’s why Crossroads is so important. They are an NGO who can get the permits to do this when the time comes.

I expect this to take ten years. The advocacy groups that pushed for alternative schools need 16 years. TPP Legislator (and long-time independence supporter)  
Chen Gau-Tzu has been fighting for expanded access to assisted reproduction for 25 years. She even had to join the TPP.

The petition is something that can be used later to legitimize the advocacy campaign. Let’s get it done!

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**Author:** ![foc](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/f/6f9a4e/32.png) [@foc](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/foc)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2024, 9:12am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/2024-8-22-dual-nationality-petition-updates-only/242455/723 "2024-08-21T09:12:42Z")

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> [@2024 August Dual Nationality Petition Open Discussion](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/2024-august-dual-nationality-petition-open-discussion/243828/26):
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> I don’t think there is a limit on signatures. Only a limit must be reached for it to go forward to the next step.

There is no limit on the number of signatures. Sign it now!

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**Author:** ![Mataiou](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/mataiou/32/178744_2.png) [@Mataiou](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Mataiou)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2024, 9:17am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/2024-8-22-dual-nationality-petition-updates-only/242455/724 "2024-08-21T09:17:03Z")

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I shared with all the people I know, both foreign residents and citizens.

we need to SPAM THIS! haha

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**Author:** ![fifieldt](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/fifieldt/32/176346_2.png) [@fifieldt](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/fifieldt)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2024, 11:10am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/2024-8-22-dual-nationality-petition-updates-only/242455/725 "2024-08-22T11:10:03Z")

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LIVE:

[![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rASM2MJKBTI)

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**Author:** ![comfy123](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/comfy123/32/258242_2.png) [@comfy123](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/comfy123)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2024, 5:54am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/2024-8-22-dual-nationality-petition-updates-only/242455/726 "2024-08-23T05:54:48Z")

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> [@fifieldt](#):
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> [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rASM2MJKBTI](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rASM2MJKBTI)

The link doesn’t work

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**Author:** ![irish91](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/c5a1d2/32.png) [@irish91](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/irish91)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2024, 7:13am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/2024-8-22-dual-nationality-petition-updates-only/242455/727 "2024-08-23T07:13:29Z")

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Media post from TaiwanPlus:

> **[6.4K views · 142 reactions | Petition Calls For Easier Path to Citizenship in...](https://www.facebook.com/taiwanplusnews/videos/727706879480226/)**
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> 5,000 signatures in 60 days. That's what campaigners need to get Taiwan's government to respond to their call: Let foreigners become citizens without...

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/ySz_WY3tL5k/maxresdefault.jpg "Petition Calls For Easier Path to Citizenship in Taiwan｜TaiwanPlus News") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySz_WY3tL5k)

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**Author:** ![Mr\_PBH](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/mr_pbh/32/230938_2.png) [@Mr\_PBH](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Mr_PBH)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2024, 7:18am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/2024-8-22-dual-nationality-petition-updates-only/242455/728 "2024-08-23T07:18:23Z")

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Just saw that on fb.

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**Author:** ![Brianjones](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/eada6e/32.png) [@Brianjones](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Brianjones)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2024, 7:20am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/2024-8-22-dual-nationality-petition-updates-only/242455/729 "2024-08-23T07:20:45Z")

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Go Elias!

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**Author:** ![Mr\_PBH](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/mr_pbh/32/230938_2.png) [@Mr\_PBH](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Mr_PBH)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2024, 7:21am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/2024-8-22-dual-nationality-petition-updates-only/242455/730 "2024-08-23T07:21:37Z")

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5 K in 60 days? Should be easy!

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**Author:** ![Brianjones](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/eada6e/32.png) [@Brianjones](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Brianjones)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2024, 7:23am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/2024-8-22-dual-nationality-petition-updates-only/242455/731 "2024-08-23T07:23:13Z")

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Every signature counts I think to make sure it goes through. Also comments on the petition. I’m sharing with any long term residents that I know here.

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**Author:** ![Mataiou](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/mataiou/32/178744_2.png) [@Mataiou](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Mataiou)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2024, 7:29am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/2024-8-22-dual-nationality-petition-updates-only/242455/732 "2024-08-23T07:29:37Z")

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we need to keep this current level of engagement.

Once the local media will start covering this more signatures from locals will come. Working on that.

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**Author:** ![foc](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/f/6f9a4e/32.png) [@foc](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/foc)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2024, 7:43am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/2024-8-22-dual-nationality-petition-updates-only/242455/733 "2024-08-23T07:43:35Z")

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Here’s the TaiwanPlus coverage. It looks like the event was a success and about 50% of the attendees looked Taiwanese. Reasonably credible. Sadly I can’t find any coverage in the Chinese-language media.

[https://www.taiwanplus.com/shows/taiwan-news/human-rights/240823001/petition-calls-for-easier-path-to-citizenship-in-taiwan](https://www.taiwanplus.com/shows/taiwan-news/human-rights/240823001/petition-calls-for-easier-path-to-citizenship-in-taiwan)

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**Author:** ![foc](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/f/6f9a4e/32.png) [@foc](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/foc)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2024, 7:51am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/2024-8-22-dual-nationality-petition-updates-only/242455/734 "2024-08-23T07:51:32Z")

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> [@Mr\_PBH](#):
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> 5 K in 60 days? Should be easy!

I don’t think it will be easy based on progress so far. After three days and one reasonably succesful event, there are only 416 ‘signatures’.

Everyone will really need to lean on Taiwanese family family, friends, and coworkers to sign and get the word out on their social media accounts.

Us foreigners can’t do this by ourselves. For one thing it’s not credible if only foreigners sign. For another, many foreigners don’t seem to be able to use the site 😉

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**Author:** ![Mr\_PBH](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/mr_pbh/32/230938_2.png) [@Mr\_PBH](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Mr_PBH)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2024, 7:57am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/2024-8-22-dual-nationality-petition-updates-only/242455/735 "2024-08-23T07:57:22Z")

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Oh I hadn’t even looked at it yet.

So 5k of any adult in Taiwan is it?

I will do what I can to get my wife’s family on board! If we get it to all her relatives that should cover about 1/4 of the necessary signatures! 😂

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**Author:** ![Mataiou](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/mataiou/32/178744_2.png) [@Mataiou](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Mataiou)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2024, 8:26am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/2024-8-22-dual-nationality-petition-updates-only/242455/736 "2024-08-23T08:26:04Z")

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> [@Mr\_PBH](#):
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> So 5k of any adult in Taiwan is it?

any adult person either citizen or on an A(P)RC with a valid TW phone number can sign

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**Author:** ![irish91](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/c5a1d2/32.png) [@irish91](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/irish91)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2024, 8:29am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/2024-8-22-dual-nationality-petition-updates-only/242455/737 "2024-08-23T08:29:58Z")

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TaiwanNews has published an article also linking the petition:

[https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/news/5924042](https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/news/5924042)

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**Author:** ![Mataiou](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/mataiou/32/178744_2.png) [@Mataiou](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Mataiou)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2024, 8:30am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/2024-8-22-dual-nationality-petition-updates-only/242455/738 "2024-08-23T08:30:26Z")

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> [@foc](#):
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> Sadly I can’t find any coverage in the Chinese-language media.

it will come in due course, they want to see how it goes on the petition platform, once we get the 5k, they will start covering it. SO we will garner more local attention

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