2024.8.22 Dual Nationality Petition - Updates Only

I guess the number of signatures that resulted from Dooley’s instagram appeal really underlined that importance.

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Where do you get the daily total?
it must be nearly 1000 signatures in the last 24h.

There is csv data you can download from the appeal website. You can analyse it yourself using Excel/PowerBI/R/Python or with a little help from AI

When you log into the Join.gov.tw website, scroll to the bottom of the Dual Nationality Petition page. Right above the latest signatures there is a download link. It looks like this:
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You can find a similar link below the signatures

This is a Zip file with 3 files. It seems to be generated on the fly

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  • 提議內容: “Proposal Content” or “Content of the Proposal”
  • 討論區留言: “Discussion Forum Comments” or “Discussion Comments”
  • 附議名單: “List of Seconders” or “List of Supporters”

It is! 741 since 10:13pm last night.

671 and counting for 2 Oct

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I think the way he explained it in a short clip really helped too. The fact that Dooley a well-known Youtuber who’s been here for 20 years doesn’t have citizenship just shows how ludicrous the current policy is.

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People are still signing

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Well, Taipei Times is the sister newspaper of LTN. FocusTaiwan is run by CNA. It’s not like the news desks don’t overlap, either. So… The only outlier is Taiwan News but that’s owned by Imei Corporation. If the story is newsworthy… it might get bigger play in the national media. might

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Your support is warmly appreciated. If I may, I would suggest that you could help the petition/campaign more by asking at least three people you know with AP(R)Cs and citizenship to sign and then following up in a few days.

The Taipei Times and the Taiwan news have both covered this story.

  1. https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/news/5924042
    2.Notes from Central Taiwan: Taiwan’s citizenship rules need to change - Taipei Times
    3.The movement for dual citizenship in Taiwan - Taipei Times

The Taipei Times has covered this issue for years (many good articles by Steven Crook). The Liberty Times has never picked up any of these stories.

What’s more, I have never seen seen the Liberty Times cover a story first reported in the Taipei Times ever. My understanding is that the news flows from the Chinese Liberty Times to the Taipei Times in a one way direction.

FocusTaiwan is the same. Its editors and translators render Chinese-language CNA stories into English. Not the other way around.

This is like a Chinese guy in Flushings asking the Word Journal to cover something in hopes that the New York Post or something is going to pick the story up.

It is essential that foreigners in Taiwan can communicate their issues and stories in Mandarin/Chinese to the Taiwanese public the way that Dooley did. Or find Taiwanese people willing to do it. Speaking and writing in English does almost nothing. It doesn’t even mobilize more than a tiny number of foreigners. My estimate is that only about 10% of the petition signatories were foreign nationals. There are 39,000 APRC holders. We can’t even reach them with English.

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better call all the Filipinos working at the factories…

Well given there’s little/no advertisement budget and the channels to reach those APRC holders were mostly done online, the reach would be limited. To get higher reach, need to spend a few hundred thousand TWD to advertise in places like subway stations.

Many are pretty apathetic to be honest. The ones who really care are either old timers who are divorced or those who came on gold cards.

I met an old Irish guy who just didn’t care. But after explaining to him the issues with disability etc… he did the renunciation and resumption and is on track to getting his ID card soon.

Another Australian guy in early 60s is doing it now (even though he has known he can resume but just genuinely didn’t care)

Both had everything in the wives name so never dealt with problems.

I didn’t run into any problems the first few years in Taiwan when I didn’t integrate with the financial/social systems. I had no local employer, no bank accounts or credit cards in TW and just withdrew cash from the ATM using my US debit card. If I didn’t try to integrate with the local financial/social systems, I wouldn’t have run into any problems and APRC would have worked great without much complaints. Things like disability benefits can be covered by global health insurance.

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Now up to 5,511

You can download the latest data without logging into the Join website over here

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ICRT’s Taiwan This Week has a segment on the petition.

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Does anyone listen to ICRT anymore?

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I’ve never heard of IRCT. :thinking:

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I do every morning on the way to the office!

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Asked more than three. Posted on my blog. Emailed the two newspapers. Of course, I don’t expect them to reply to me. Will follow up as much as I can. It might help. Who knows!

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https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/news/5946836
Today’s story. Edit: Yesterday’s.

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