# 8 sunken Dutch ships discovered in Taijiang National Park **URL:** \ **Category:** Culture & History\ **Created:** [October 12, 2016, 2:20am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/8-sunken-dutch-ships-discovered-in-taijiang-national-park/155893 "2016-10-12T02:20:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![hansioux](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/hansioux/32/253648_2.png) [@hansioux](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/hansioux)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 2:20am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/8-sunken-dutch-ships-discovered-in-taijiang-national-park/155893/1 "2016-10-12T02:20:32Z")
> **[台江水域發現8艘荷蘭沉船 考古學者盼搶救古物 - 生活 - 自由時報電子報](https://news.ltn.com.tw/news/life/breakingnews/1853306)** > > 台灣曾在16、17世紀歷經大航海時代，許多歐洲國家都來到島上進行貿易、開發。有媒體報導指出，中央研究院史語所研究員劉益昌表示，台南台江國家公園近年來發現，園內水域下有8艘荷蘭時期的沉船，他呼籲政府能擬定挖掘計畫，讓台灣以文史與世界接軌。據《聯合報》報導，劉益昌表示，台灣在17世紀大航海時代扮演重要角色，荷蘭與西班牙的船隊都在這裡向全球發展貿易，尤其台南更是重要的據點。而台江國家管理處於4年前委託研究員進行水下調查，發現台江地區水域內有8艘荷治時期的沉船，其中4艘位置可確定在鹽水溪畔，但至今政府相... When Koxinga’s fleet surprised the Dutch by slipping past Fort Zeelandia through Lakjemuyse, into the Tayowan inland sea, laying siege to Fort Provintia, many Dutch vessels were destroyed. Archaeologist have just discovered 8 of them at the bottom of the Taijiang National Park. On record, the Dutch forces lost the Hector, the Emmenhorn, the Koukerke, and the Cortenhoef. If the 8 ships discovered at the bottom of the lagoon is one of these ships, it would be an amazing discovery. ---
**Author:** ![Charlie\_Phillips](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/charlie_phillips/32/179747_2.png) [@Charlie\_Phillips](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Charlie_Phillips)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 4:33am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/8-sunken-dutch-ships-discovered-in-taijiang-national-park/155893/2 "2016-10-12T04:33:44Z")
Thanks for the tip Hansioux. I did a write write-up on my news blog. Hope I got the facts straight. > **[Dutch Colonial Era Ships Found in Tainan](http://taiwanenglishnews.com/dutch-colonial-era-ships-found-in-tainan/)** > > Eight wrecks dating back to the Dutch colonial era have been discovered underwater in Taijiang National Park, Tainan, according to Academia Sinica Department of History and Philology researcher Liu… ---
**Author:** ![taiwandc](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/8edcca/32.png) [@taiwandc](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/taiwandc)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2016, 10:14pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/8-sunken-dutch-ships-discovered-in-taijiang-national-park/155893/3 "2016-11-26T22:14:41Z")
Hi, I am a Dutchman who will be in Tainan in January for three months to do research on the Dutch period in Taiwan’s history. Any updates on the story of the shipwrecks? It would indeed be fascinating if it was indeed one or more of those ships. Gerrit ---
**Author:** ![11173](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/11173/32/191308_2.png) [@11173](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/11173)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2016, 1:43am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/8-sunken-dutch-ships-discovered-in-taijiang-national-park/155893/4 "2016-11-27T01:43:19Z")
No idea taiwandc but the best of luck for you and your colleagues! ---
**Author:** ![hansioux](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/hansioux/32/253648_2.png) [@hansioux](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/hansioux)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2016, 2:34am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/8-sunken-dutch-ships-discovered-in-taijiang-national-park/155893/5 "2016-11-28T02:34:29Z")
> [@taiwandc](#): > > Hi, I am a Dutchman who will be in Tainan in January for three months to do research on the Dutch period in Taiwan’s history. Any updates on the story of the shipwrecks? It would indeed be fascinating if it was indeed one or more of those ships. Gerrit Right now researchers and the Tainan city government is urging the central government to give them funding to excavate the sites. If they do get their funding, perhaps they can lift a ship or build a museum around it. So far, the best Dutch sites in Tainan would still be Fort Zeelandia (Anping Old Fort), and Fort Provintia. You would find Fort Provintia unrecognizable. After sacking the place, Koxinga made Fort Provintia his home. Later when his passed, the place was used as a ammunition storage, and later just abandoned. Several temples and schools were built on the ruin, which are the basis for the structures standing now. When the Japanese rediscovered the original gate to the fort, they turned the place into a museum. You sort of can see the foundation of Zeelandia at Anping. The standing structures have all been replaced also. Although a lot of the damages to the structures were caused by poor maintenance and people taking apart the original structures for building materials, the two Dutch forts weren’t very earthquake proof themselves. Another place you could see is at Sicao (四草) Dazhong temple (大眾廟). There is a concrete tomb for fallen Dutch VoC soldiers. The remains were moved to its current location in 1971, after being dug up by local construction. Although DNA studies of the site were never released, and there’s no way of knowing if the bones found actually are of European origin. You may also visit Lu’ermeng (Lo̍k-ní-mn̂g 鹿耳門). It first showed up in Dutch records as Lacquymoy. It was the place where Koxiga slipped through Dtuch defensed and into the lagoon to directly lay siege to Provintia. There’s also the National Museum of Taiwan History in Tainan, where you probably can find some expert on the issue. ---
**Author:** ![taiwandc](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/8edcca/32.png) [@taiwandc](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/taiwandc)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2016, 3:21am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/8-sunken-dutch-ships-discovered-in-taijiang-national-park/155893/6 "2016-11-28T03:21:58Z")
Thanks Hansioux, You seem to have made quite a study of the Dutch period. Excellent resources. Thanks very much. Are you located in Tainan or elsewhere? Perhaps we could meet there after we arrive in early January. Best regards, Gerrit ---
**Author:** ![hansioux](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/hansioux/32/253648_2.png) [@hansioux](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/hansioux)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2016, 3:34am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/8-sunken-dutch-ships-discovered-in-taijiang-national-park/155893/7 "2016-11-28T03:34:36Z")
I live up North unfortunately. I just like finding out things about Taiwan’s history because so little of it is actually taught in schools. While you are at the museums, keep an eye out for these Sinkang documents. They are deals made by Tainan’s Aboriginals with Han Chinese, written in Latin phonetic alphabets. The documents are often bi-lingual. Local aboriginals who had interacted with the Dutch continued to write the way the Dutch had taught them 150 years after the Dutch had left. ![](https://forumosauploads-12829.kxcdn.com/original/2X/b/bac31aa325b122c4ad0abaef65b64c7fd80b4227.jpg) If you visit Taipei, don’t forget to pop by Tamsui and check out Fort Antonio, which the Dutch built over the ruins of the Spanish fort. Then the English built a fancy house next to it. ---
**Author:** ![taiwandc](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/8edcca/32.png) [@taiwandc](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/taiwandc)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2016, 3:41pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/8-sunken-dutch-ships-discovered-in-taijiang-national-park/155893/8 "2016-11-28T15:41:51Z")
Yes, Taiwan history is fascinating. I have been teaching a course in History of Taiwan at George Mason University in Virginia. It is nice to see American students who initially have little knowledge of Taiwan warm up to the topic. You may also enjoy the book review I did in the Taipei Times a couple of months ago: [http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/feat/archives/2016/09/17/2003655296](http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/feat/archives/2016/09/17/2003655296) About two new novels in Dutch that came out during the past year about the Dutch history in Taiwan. Both are well done. Actually both authors are interested in having their books translated and published in Taiwan. Any suggestions as to publishers who might be interested? ---
**Author:** ![Charlie\_Phillips](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/charlie_phillips/32/179747_2.png) [@Charlie\_Phillips](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Charlie_Phillips)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2016, 4:26pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/8-sunken-dutch-ships-discovered-in-taijiang-national-park/155893/9 "2016-11-28T16:26:17Z")
A couple of stories that have come up in the media this year from the Dutch era: > **[Dutch Era Well Restored in Yunlin County](http://taiwanenglishnews.com/dutch-era-well-restored-in-yunlin-county/)** > > Photos: UDN A village well dug during the Dutch occupation of Taiwan over 300 years ago, is being restored in Mayuan Village, Gukeng Township, Yunlin County. Village elders have fond memories of th… > **[Low Water Levels Reveal Old Well: Maybe from Dutch Era Formosa](http://taiwanenglishnews.com/low-water-levels-reveal-old-well-maybe-from-dutch-era-formosa/)** > > Receding water levels at a reservoir in Chiayi County have revealed a well that has been submerged since the reservoir was reconstructed during the Japanese colonial period. The Lantan Reservoir wa… ---
**Author:** ![afterspivak](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/ccd318/32.png) [@afterspivak](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/afterspivak)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2016, 12:56am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/8-sunken-dutch-ships-discovered-in-taijiang-national-park/155893/10 "2016-11-29T00:56:02Z")
Fascinating stuff. Great thread! Guy ---
**Author:** ![kman](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/f07891/32.png) [@kman](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/kman)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2016, 1:18am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/8-sunken-dutch-ships-discovered-in-taijiang-national-park/155893/11 "2016-11-29T01:18:22Z")
I wrote an article on the subject last month. Let me know when you go down there and if you hear of any new developments. Eight Dutch colonial era shipwrecks discovered in Tainan [http://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/2993736](http://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/2993736) ---
**Author:** ![taiwandc](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/8edcca/32.png) [@taiwandc](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/taiwandc)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2017, 2:43pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/8-sunken-dutch-ships-discovered-in-taijiang-national-park/155893/12 "2017-01-16T14:43:49Z")
Hi Hansioux, we arrived in Tainan a week ago, and started to make the rounds to the historic sites. At your suggestion we visited the Sicao (四草) Dazhong temple (大眾廟), and the concrete tomb for fallen Dutch VoC soldiers today. Interesting experience! Also took the boat tour through the mangrove, and asked the guide if she knew the location of the Dutch shipwreck, but she didn’t know. Any more info on the precise location? taiwandc ---
**Author:** ![tempogain](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/tempogain/32/264650_2.png) [@tempogain](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/tempogain)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2017, 2:53pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/8-sunken-dutch-ships-discovered-in-taijiang-national-park/155893/13 "2017-01-16T14:53:17Z")
> [@taiwandc](#): > > Actually both authors are interested in having their books translated and published in Taiwan. Any suggestions as to publishers who might be interested? Hi, missed this at the time. Perhaps [https://camphorpress.com/](https://camphorpress.com/) would be interested, @Taffy? ---
**Author:** ![Camphor\_Press](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/camphor_press/32/84133_2.png) [@Camphor\_Press](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Camphor_Press)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2017, 3:25pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/8-sunken-dutch-ships-discovered-in-taijiang-national-park/155893/14 "2017-01-16T15:25:59Z")
Thanks @tempogain! We’re always happy to hear from authors who want to publish in English – the best place for authors to go is our [author info page](https://camphorpress.com/publishing-with-camphor-press/). If they like what they see, they can drop us a line to talk in more detail. ---
**Author:** ![taiwandc](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/8edcca/32.png) [@taiwandc](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/taiwandc)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2017, 9:25am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/8-sunken-dutch-ships-discovered-in-taijiang-national-park/155893/15 "2017-01-17T09:25:39Z")
Hi tempogain, thanks for the suggestion. One author is already in touch with Camphorpress. I will establish a link for the other author. Hope it works out. taiwandc ---
**Author:** ![hansioux](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/hansioux/32/253648_2.png) [@hansioux](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/hansioux)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2017, 9:52am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/8-sunken-dutch-ships-discovered-in-taijiang-national-park/155893/16 "2017-01-17T09:52:07Z")
> [@taiwandc](#): > > Any more info on the precise location? The researchers probably are keeping the actual location a secret to keep the wrecks safe. From the description though, I would guess it’s somewhere along this road: [https://www.google.com.tw/maps/place/四草濕地(鹽水溪排水線)/@23.0092646,120.1429659,17.25z/data=!4m12!1m6!3m5!1s0x346dd894d2075d01:0x31afda79c9612eb9!2sTaijiang+National+Park!8m2!3d23.018839!4d120.136168!3m4!1s0x0:0x4e84a93b1b63a52!8m2!3d23.0094704!4d120.1439993?hl=en&shorturl=1](https://www.google.com.tw/maps/place/%E5%9B%9B%E8%8D%89%E6%BF%95%E5%9C%B0(%E9%B9%BD%E6%B0%B4%E6%BA%AA%E6%8E%92%E6%B0%B4%E7%B7%9A)/@23.0092646,120.1429659,17.25z/data=!4m12!1m6!3m5!1s0x346dd894d2075d01:0x31afda79c9612eb9!2sTaijiang+National+Park!8m2!3d23.018839!4d120.136168!3m4!1s0x0:0x4e84a93b1b63a52!8m2!3d23.0094704!4d120.1439993?hl=en&shorturl=1) ---
**Author:** ![taiwandc](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/8edcca/32.png) [@taiwandc](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/taiwandc)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2017, 11:28am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/8-sunken-dutch-ships-discovered-in-taijiang-national-park/155893/17 "2017-01-17T11:28:34Z")
Thanks, good to know. That’s actually the area where the boat tour passes by. I’ll see if I can get in touch with the researcher at Academia Sinica. Do you have a contact email there? Greetings from Tainan ---
**Author:** ![hansioux](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/hansioux/32/253648_2.png) [@hansioux](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/hansioux)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2017, 2:22pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/8-sunken-dutch-ships-discovered-in-taijiang-national-park/155893/18 "2017-01-17T14:22:42Z")
[http://www2.ihp.sinica.edu.tw/staffProfile.php?M=1&uid=17](http://www2.ihp.sinica.edu.tw/staffProfile.php?M=1&uid=17) You can find professor Liu’s e-mail from his academica sinica site ---
**Author:** ![tempogain](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/tempogain/32/264650_2.png) [@tempogain](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/tempogain)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2017, 2:27pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/8-sunken-dutch-ships-discovered-in-taijiang-national-park/155893/19 "2017-01-17T14:27:05Z")
> [@hansioux](#): > > From the description though, I would guess it’s somewhere along this road:[Google Maps](https://goo.gl/maps/1s8VV1uoZ7E2) Those look like some pretty wild roads. ---
**Author:** ![hansioux](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/hansioux/32/253648_2.png) [@hansioux](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/hansioux)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2024, 1:09am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/8-sunken-dutch-ships-discovered-in-taijiang-national-park/155893/20 "2024-05-14T01:09:02Z")
![image](https://forumosauploads-12829.kxcdn.com/original/3X/a/6/a67e8bb92405fe7f83b2aac44637495baca4972d.jpeg) Possible locations of the wrecks based on historical documents. Researchers from NCKU and ITRI are using airborne magnetic and very low frequency electromagnetic surveying instruments to pin point the locations. Not sure if they used bathymetry LIDAR as well. ![image](https://forumosauploads-12829.kxcdn.com/original/3X/3/3/33153d671129c6168a325de3c31c1ca7f9387955.jpeg)