A MUST READ if you ride a bike or scooter

I’m done with this here. You want to go on, let’s take it to f&f.[/quote][/quote]

fists & feet? Alright!


fists & feet? Alright![/quote] :laughing: :laughing: :bravo:

Of course I meant Flame & Flounder, but you get a 10 for that anyway.

More tips:

#1! Set out 5-10 min. earlier than you need to, so that you

Dragonbones, wow…great post. Good for you. :bravo: :bravo:

Yep…I second that.

[quote]11. May sound obvious, but give other bikes more room, especially the young locals with half-hats slung to the back of their head, riding with a slouch, and mirrors askew or missing. They

A top-of-the-line helmet is great if you can afford it, but don’t think that the only choice is between that and a 500 dollar night market special. You can get reasonable protection for a few thousand NT:
[forumosa.com/taiwan/viewtopic.ph … 017#128017](Motorcycle Helmets (Arai, Shoei)

Mesh jackets are the way to go here. Marsee make good ones as well. Lots of companies do now. They can be fine in the winter. Just put a windbreaker/raincoat on top and you’ve got pretty good insulation. More on mesh jackets here:
[forumosa.com/taiwan/viewtopic.ph … 929#129929](Motorcycle Helmets (Arai, Shoei)

[quote=“Dangermouse”]he he he…and be especially wary of the ones who wear helmets with a picture of a birds face on them. They are without exception all maniacs.[/quote]Hmmmm… When did I ever show you my motorbike helmet?

no doubt some excellent suggestions and strategies to improve the quality of your riding and get home in one piece in this thread…

don’t forget though, you can sit around reading about this stuff all day, but you’ll never improve without doing the miles… you need to impliment these sugestions every time you ride… as you get more and more accustomed to it, it should take up less and less active attention until it becomes second nature whenever you’re on the bike… in an emergency situation you cannot think, you can only react, and that reaction must be making the correct control inputs during the first split second, that can mean the difference between close call and the hospital…

you also need to teach your brain some new tricks… for example targeting and tracking objects and road hazzards in your peripheral vision whilst keeping your focus on where the road is going, is a skill your brain ordinarily isn’t good at, you need to develope and practice these skills and that only happens on the bike… luckily that’s the part we all like the best… :happybiker:

You can keep your helmet to yourself. I’m not too interested in your bird either.

You can keep your helmet to yourself. I’m not too interested in your bird either.[/quote]Don’t worry! My bird isn’t interested in seeing you either!

I should have you up before the highest court in the land for modifying my quote for maximum double entendre value…

And with summer coming up, that special Taiwan experience when the scooter in front of you slams on the brakes 50 feet before the stoplight because the rider has spotted a patch of shade (not meaning to be sexist, but seems to be especially a fault of the, literally, ‘fairer’ gender).

That’s a funny one, MikeN :slight_smile: . Them shade patches… I actually use my ride to work as an oppurtunity to catch some sun. The xiaojies, on the other hand :s .

Just the other day I was approaching an intersection and a scooter comes flying into the entrance of the alley on my side of the alley coming from the wrong way on the big road…I yell “idiot!” in Chinese instinctively…only to realize it’s my South African neighbor. [/quote]

And today I enter the one-way road near my house only to have to swerve and miss another white neighbor of mine. There are certain situations where you have to drive illegally to stay safe in Taiwan (roundabouts for example) but going the wrong way down one-ways…and entering roads in the oncoming lane, there is no excuse for that…I don’t understand these people…they wouldn’t drive like that back home…so why do they here?

Here I just made this…and don’t worry I won’t quit my day job…but look at this pic…How stupid would you have to be to follow this line…to make a left hand turn? I thought only Taiwanese did this…but my neighbors proved me wrong.

Mordeth wrote: “I don’t understand these people…they wouldn’t drive like that back home…so why do they here?”

As the old saying goes, “When in Rome do as the Romans do.” But you are right, some foreigners take this too far. Makes us other “law abiding” foreigners look bad, eh Mordeth? :wink:

Got one more…I live near an army base…and there are some foreigners that work on the base…not sure what they do there. Anyway they are driving the wrong way down a one-way in an SUV and I block them with my scooter get off and ask if they know that this is a one-way. They respond “Yes, but we work here!” :loco: . Oh…you work on this street? Oh…my mistake then…feel free to run the red light as well :loco: .

I think if you just assume the drivers around you will do the stupidest thing possible all the time you may be driving defensively enough to survive here :astonished:

just a thought

[quote=“shifty”]I think if you just assume the drivers around you will do the stupidest thing possible all the time you may be driving defensively enough to survive here :astonished:

just a thought[/quote]

A few people have said that…and I hear some foreigners say that in person as well. But it doesn’t really work…if you were to do it. For example a car comes toward you in the oncoming lane…you expect him to swerve into your lane and come at you head on?!? So you jam on the brakes or maybe jump off your bike? If you really expected every single parked car to swing out and make a U-turn…you wouldn’t get far down the street.

The point of defensive driving is to lessen the chances of a close call as much as possible…which is better than driving normally and just being on the look-out for a close call.


ahh… I see the finer points of sarcasm are lost on you sir, howver if you have failed to have the experience of having a car coming at you in the wrong lane at night with no lights only to swerve and double park on a crosswalk, you are one lucky bastard.

where can I get some of your mojo? :help:

just a thought…

There was no sarcasm…many people use the saying “I just expect the worst at all times and therefore I drive safely.” Or something similiar to that…and it’s a copout. It’s like the idiots that say “I don’t need my headlight on in the day…because I ride as if everyone doesn’t see me anyway.” There are both ways of saying…I’m so super careful that I don’t need to take any extra saftey precautions…like learning proper riding technique or making myself more visible to others. If that’s not what you are saying than sorry…but there are many people who say both the above bullshit excuses for their ignorance.

wow, pull back the hostilities a bit there cowboy. :astonished:

I am sure am glad you told me what I was actually saying as you know so much better than I what I said or how I meant it. I am sure am glad we have people like you to tell us what we mean.

Lighten up :raspberry:

I think that what Shifty said is an excellent basic attitude to cultivate. I don’t think it’s “cocky” in any way. Quite the opposite – it makes you aware of your own limitations.

And of course you also have to wear a decent helmet and be visible as well. Nobody said otherwise.