I have spent nearly 5 years learning Chinese on and off - in Taiwan and in Australia… I cannot read characters and my spoken is lame indeed. Hats off to you folk that have mastered it, something I can only aspire to.
I forgot - my tutor in Taiwan used to teach Jeff when he first arrived in Taiwan… she couldnt shut up about him… perfect example of how fab her method was… I thought she was a weirdo… all she talked about was politics and how evil the DPP was… interesting for erm, about 5 minutes, then it just drove me insane…