ADVICE! Pet in Trouble

Life Pets & Domestic Animals
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First off, thank you for reading this.

Second, do not suggest I just leave him in the States. That is clearly not an option I am contemplating and suggesting it would be a waste of both our times.

So our doggy is in America and we are in Taiwan. He had to stay because of the 180 day blood syrum test thingy.

He has been staying at a friend’s house. Unfortunately, we ran into a bit of money troubles with moving here and had to delay bringing him over. Because of this, he has been there an extra two weeks than our “friends” originally agreed to. A week ago, they said no big deal.

So we came into some money and were making the preparations to bring him out! Applying for the import permit (which had to wait until we had the cash to bring him, since you only have an 8 day window to bring a pet out). We only got the money on Thursday, so JUST applied for the import permit.

But yesterday we got a skype call saying they can no longer watch our dog and if we do not figure something out he will be on the street later this week.

So I am flying out in just a few hours to rescue our little guy from sudden homelessness.

EVERYTHING is in order…except the damn import permit which I do not know if it will be here in time. So my only choice (if it does not get here super fast) is to try and bring him without it.

According to : http://pets.hcbaphiq.gov.tw/en/FAQ_AnswerPage.aspx?faqid=40it states

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Q: Can I apply for the “Import Permit” after my dog/cat has already arrived at Taiwan Taoyuan International Airport if I have not made the application beforehand?

A: No. However, if the imported dog/cat meets all other requirements and quarantine space is available, the dog/cat is allowed to enter Taiwan with the set quarantine period extended by a further 30 days.
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And here is a bit more lenient, but similar: http://www2.baphiq.gov.tw/ct.asp?xItem=1093&ctNode=2021&mp=24
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Q: What will happen if dog/cat owners with the dog/cat arrive at the airport without the import permit?

A: For the dog/cat without import permit, it shall be detained in the designated post-entry quarantine premise for 7 to 30 days[/color]

Which aint so bad…especially as this is the only option I have left if the permit does not get here in time (longer quarantine vs homelessness…not a huge deal). I cannot stay for a month in the US, and may be losing my job over this little excursion as it is.

But will an airline allow me to bring my doggy without the permit? If so, which airlines would be most flexible with this? I am guessing China airline would not be the best if I do not have the permit

Thanks in advance!

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That’s horrible news, but also great to see that someone will try so hard to help their pet. Good luck with everything and keep us posted!

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Have you tried to contact a rescue group in your area (where your dog is). Since you will have to pay about 1000 US on the flight, why not look up rescue groups and see if they will pick up your dog and host him for a 2 weeks and in return give them a $1000 donation. Most rescue groups are filled with good people who would be willing to help out in exchange for a generous donation to their chosen rescue group. That might buy you a bit of time to wait for the import permit.

Sorry I can’t help you out with the other information you are looking for, as I have never imported a pet.

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I hope you have read my in depth account of pet import from America on page 8 of [url=http://tw.forumosa.com/t/importing-pets-into-taiwan-paperwork-quarantine-etc/383/79 thread from about a year ago.

To answer your question:

A) No airline, not EVA, China Air, Cathay nor anyone else will allow your pet on board without a valid and original Taiwan Pet Import Permit. It is, in fact, their responsibility to ensure your pet is adequately permitted to travel into Taiwan before allowing him/her/it on their airline.

I am happy to see your commitment to your best friend, but I don’t want you to think that this business of pet import is taken lightly. You MUST have your shit together to successfully execute this operation, and there is no one you will encounter in this process who will ‘cut you some slack’.

If anyone here in Taiwan claims to have successfully completed a pet import with incomplete paperwork and unfollowed protocol, well, they don’t post on this site.

I would suggest staying in America and having the import permit FEDEX’d to you overnight by a friend once issued and delivered.

I know you don’t want to hear this, but there is a really really really small possibility of you making it through airline check-in without ALL needed paperwork (veterinarian export health certificate, USDA export certification, Taiwan Pet Import Form)

I also assume you know of the~$20,000NT in quarantine fees once the pet is here (please read my posted link above).

To summarize: You likely will not get your pet on the plane without the Import Permit. At the least, you should contact theBAPHIQ here in Taipei to ask their opinion.

I do not suggest you just show up at the airport as the airlines will request All of your paperwork at check in, they Will be expecting you as you need to inform them that you will be traveling with a pet ahead of time, they will also take your documents to be photocopied and validated by a manager.How connected and informed these airlines are with the BAPHIQ back in Taiwan is unknown to me, but I wouldn’t doubt there is some system of cooperation in place.

I think you are in a tight spot, I know how important it is to be re-united with a pet. Keep us updated on how things work out. I suggest contactingBAPHIQ and asking what your options are regarding the permit and your specific situation.

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Thank you all for the suggestions!

I took the advice to contact baqhiq and told them my story. They issued a permit and “allowed” my dog to enter two weeks before the actual date on the permit itself…that was the best they would do.

But to punish me, my dog has an extended quarantine…2 extra weeks!

When I got to taoayuan, the people at the airport were only going to add a single week, but the lady at the baqhiq office (who I guess is above the people at the airport) overturned it and said it has to be 2 extra weeks. (she knew I was bringing him early as I explained my situation, literally begging for leniance. It was actually quite hellish as I was having to stay awake during business hours both on California time and Taiwan time…getting only a few hrs of sleep for a week dealing with all of this).

So essentially, my dog is in quarantine for 21 days FROM the date on the import permit. Unfortunately I could not remain in the US an entire 30 days to wait until the permit was in effect.

There ended up being all sorts of other issues which are probably not applicable to other people-the FAVN report (the original) had an extra digit on the microchip number tagged at the end of it…the vet who I had draw the blood evidently added the number by accident and it just sorta “stuck” through all the paperwork. I had to track down that original vet (who no longer works where he did when I originally took my doggy to him) and get him to write a letter “confessing” it was his mistake. That damn extra digit cost me so much time and trouble-with getting the permit from the US and at the airport once we got here. But that is a side issue, but it might be why they decided not be flexible with the quarantine time.

But at least my dog is here and he is in the same city where we live. I am allowed to visit him 6 days a week! Which is super awesome. I feel bad that his quarantine is 35 days long but there was nothing else I could do. Luckily he seems to be adjusting well and seems a bit happier every time I see him (I thought he would get worse as time went on, but he seems to be “getting used to it” I guess).

But I guess this is what happens if you bring your pet in before the date on the import permit…his quarantine will be as if he came on that day.

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YOU ROCK!!! :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :discodance: :discodance: :discodance:

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congrats on getting your pet here :slight_smile: I hope he won’t have trouble adjusting to the new environment.

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What are the quarantine facilities like?

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hella nice.

From my understanding, Taichung is perhaps the best place for larger dogs. My dog is abt 65 lbs and he is on the smaller size of the dogs that are there, (shepherds, some huge beautiful black dogs) though there are a few tiny “purse dogs” there too. The cages are quite large…more than enough size for my guy. They feed them either once or twice a day (depending on what you tell them) the air conditioning runs all the time (at least during the day) and its actually a teensy chilly where the dogs stay. They are given water that has gone through a US made filtration system (they were quite proud of that) and the staff are all SUPPPPPER nice! The head vet actually called baqhiq on my behalf to see if they would shorten my doggies lengthened quarantine time (which they wouldnt).

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hella nice.

From my understanding, Taichung is perhaps the best place for larger dogs. My dog is abt 65 lbs and he is on the smaller size of the dogs that are there, (shepherds, some huge beautiful black dogs) though there are a few tiny “purse dogs” there too. The cages are quite large…more than enough size for my guy. They feed them either once or twice a day (depending on what you tell them) the air conditioning runs all the time (at least during the day) and its actually a teensy chilly where the dogs stay. They are given water that has gone through a US made filtration system (they were quite proud of that) and the staff are all SUPPPPPER nice! The head vet actually called baqhiq on my behalf to see if they would shorten my doggies lengthened quarantine time (which they wouldnt).[/quote]

That is a very nice and heart warming story. I am impressed with the Taiwanese system for this and the fact that they were so flexible but not irresponsible as well. At the end of the day all the screw ups with this case happened in the USA not Taiwan. I doubt your friend would really have thrown the dog out on the street; surely not? It was probably a shout of desperation. Congrats with the dog. What kind of dog is it and give us all some photos when it comes out of quarantine please.

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Congrats on a job well done. Best wishes .

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hella nice.

From my understanding, Taichung is perhaps the best place for larger dogs. My dog is abt 65 lbs and he is on the smaller size of the dogs that are there, (shepherds, some huge beautiful black dogs) though there are a few tiny “purse dogs” there too. The cages are quite large…more than enough size for my guy. They feed them either once or twice a day (depending on what you tell them) the air conditioning runs all the time (at least during the day) and its actually a teensy chilly where the dogs stay. They are given water that has gone through a US made filtration system (they were quite proud of that) and the staff are all SUPPPPPER nice! The head vet actually called baqhiq on my behalf to see if they would shorten my doggies lengthened quarantine time (which they wouldnt).[/quote]

That is a very nice and heart warming story. I am impressed with the Taiwanese system for this and the fact that they were so flexible but not irresponsible as well. At the end of the day all the screw ups with this case happened in the USA not Taiwan. I doubt your friend would really have thrown the dog out on the street; surely not? It was probably a shout of desperation. Congrats with the dog. What kind of dog is it and give us all some photos when it comes out of quarantine please.[/quote]

For sure-and I do not know whether or not they WOULD have literally thrown the dog out.

But even if not…they informed us they were essentially neglecting him; letting him run free. They live next to a nature reserve and instead of actually watching my dog (like we were paying them to do), walking him, feeding him at regular times etc, they were letting him run in the woods. They actually stated they had seen him chase coyotes (YIKES!) and when I picked him up he was underfed and wreaked of skunk (as evidently he had been chasing skunks too)…so either way I had to go back ASAP after the conversation where they informed me of all of this. So they deserve a special place in hell IMHO…

And my dog is not a handfull at all. His main need is affection, but he is obedient, chill, never destructive and has been potty trained since he was a pup (at 8 weeks old, when we rescued him from an organization that kept their dogs on a farm outside…he already knew not to crap in the house) so this, whichever way you look at it, is on these people I never intend on speaking to ever again.

But he is a mix; redtick coonhound (mama) and we BELIEVE his dad was a golden retriever because he looks like a mini golden with some black streaks in his fur. But as his momma was a rescue who had a littler of 3 pups while in the shelter, we do not know for sure who his dad was (and his momma and siblings were all adopted too, so happy endings all around in that area!)

But I will definitely post some pics of the little guy when he busts outta jail :slight_smile:

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You just turned a tiring shitty day into a pleasant one :slight_smile: thanks for sharing this, and thanks for caring about your family! It always feels good to hear about success stories, although they dont seem like it at the time i am sure. We need more good people like you in this world :slight_smile:

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What he said. :bow:

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I’m totally impressed with the dedication you have shown to your dog. It’s inspiring.

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