# Air quality in Taichung **URL:** \ **Category:** Living in Taiwan\ **Tags:** taichung, pollution\ **Created:** [November 25, 2018, 1:59pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/air-quality-in-taichung/174718 "2018-11-25T13:59:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Taiwanguy](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/taiwanguy/32/52502_2.png) [@Taiwanguy](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Taiwanguy)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2018, 2:26am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/air-quality-in-taichung/174718/101 "2018-11-26T02:26:56Z")
Fine the last month? My school wouldn’t let kids outside for recess several days because the air quality was so bad. You clearly don’t live in Taichung. There was a solid week that was worse than I’ve seen in my 17 years here. ---
**Author:** ![shiadoa](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/shiadoa/32/10295_2.png) [@shiadoa](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/shiadoa)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2018, 2:28am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/air-quality-in-taichung/174718/102 "2018-11-26T02:28:50Z")
not maybe as scientific, but another opinion. > **[Air Pollution in Taichung City, Taiwan - A Worsening Crisis - Pictures](https://www.taiwanese-secrets.com/air-pollution-in-taichung-city/)** > > The air pollution in Taichung City, in Central Taiwan, is a serious problem that is only growing worse and worse year after year. If you visit Taichung, you'll want to wear an anti-pollution mask. There are good days and terrible days, and the AQI may even show improvements (on paper). The reality ( for me) is that it remains a problem . ---
**Author:** ![mad\_masala](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/mad_masala/32/182103_2.png) [@mad\_masala](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/mad_masala)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2018, 2:28am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/air-quality-in-taichung/174718/103 "2018-11-26T02:28:56Z")
So it does look a bit better right before the elections and then it goes to shit again. @Gain what sensors where you monitoring? xD ---
**Author:** ![Brianjones](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/eada6e/32.png) [@Brianjones](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Brianjones)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2018, 2:34am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/air-quality-in-taichung/174718/104 "2018-11-26T02:34:29Z")
I want to see the INDIVIDUAL sensor data not some smoothed out crap across all of Taichung. We want to see the peaks and the troughs too. ---
**Author:** ![Gain](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/b487fb/32.png) [@Gain](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Gain)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2018, 2:37am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/air-quality-in-taichung/174718/105 "2018-11-26T02:37:03Z")
> [@overnightoats666](#): > > Which sensors are we talking about. They are the same one. The different numbers are from different times. One is 9am the other is 10am. > [@Taiwanguy](#): > > Fine the last month? My school wouldn’t let kids outside for recess several days because the air quality was so bad. You clearly don’t live in Taichung. There was a solid week that was worse than I’ve seen in my 17 years here. I am aware of the several really bad days in the beginning of November but that was it. Other than that week, can you remember any other time when it was bad? > [@Brianjones](#): > > I want to see the INDIVIDUAL sensor data not some smoothed out crap across all of Taichung. > We want to see the peaks and the troughs too. Idk why you keep being so stubborn. If the average has improved so much, what makes you think the individuals would be worse? If you go on some website I’m sure you can find the data of individual sensor stations over the years. > [@shiadoa](#): > > not maybe as scientific, but another opinion. > > There are good days and terrible days, and the AQI may even show improvements (on paper). The reality ( for me) is that it remains a problem . > [@](#): > > If you’ve seen pictures of Taichung with perfect blue skies, chances are that those pictures date from a few years ago, before the pollution crisis started. These days, clear skies like this are very rare! He’s full of bullshit. And I’ve never said that it wasn’t a problem. I’ve only said that it has improved. ---
**Author:** ![BiggusDickus](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/biggusdickus/32/90381_2.png) [@BiggusDickus](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/BiggusDickus)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2018, 2:40am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/air-quality-in-taichung/174718/106 "2018-11-26T02:40:05Z")
> [@overnightoats666](#): > > > [@Gain](#): > > > > That’s just ridiculous. > > It seems like some conspiracy theory shit, but it’s actually true. I’m not sure how the politicians could do it without causing power shortages. Having said that, I wouldn’t put it past them. I remember when Ken Livingstone deliberately screwed the traffic lights so the congestion charge would look like a success. He was such a cynical little runt. ---
**Author:** ![overnightoats666](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/overnightoats666/32/35243_2.png) [@overnightoats666](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/overnightoats666)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2018, 2:45am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/air-quality-in-taichung/174718/107 "2018-11-26T02:45:23Z")
- Be misinformed on Taichung air quality - google study/news showing my point of view about air quality in Taichung and latch onto it - smugly smile to myself while posting the article/clips to [forumosa.com](http://forumosa.com) - Laugh at all the other posters as I’ve clearly defeated all points of opposition with this single article I found by googling [study showing my opinion] I wish you were infact right about the air quality in Taichung @Gain. Do you want the air to be clean so badly that you’re telling yourself lies and then believing them? I sometimes lie to myself and pretend that air is actually getting better to keep myself from going down some depression spiral. Sometimes it’s better to live with the lie… ---
**Author:** ![Brianjones](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/eada6e/32.png) [@Brianjones](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Brianjones)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2018, 2:47am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/air-quality-in-taichung/174718/108 "2018-11-26T02:47:37Z")
Taichung power station will reduce operations when the PM2.5 goes above a certain amount for a certain number of days. I can absolutely see somehody in govt ordering them to reduce operations in Taichung around election time if they can get the power from elsewhere temporarily… ---
**Author:** ![Gain](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/b487fb/32.png) [@Gain](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Gain)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2018, 2:49am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/air-quality-in-taichung/174718/109 "2018-11-26T02:49:06Z")
> [@overnightoats666](#): > > I wish you were infact right about the air quality in Taichung @Gain. Do you want the air to be clean so badly that you’re telling yourself lies and then believing them? I sometimes lie to myself and pretend that air is actually getting better to keep myself from going down some depression spiral. Sometimes it’s better to live with the lie… I’m not telling myself lies. Did you even bother to read what I’ve posted? Those were all from objective, hard statistics, while YOURS were all personal anecdotes and some stupid bullshit blog articles. “I feel”, “I see” and all that crap. I have eyes too and I have lived in Taichung and still visit very frequently. I don’t have time for this. I’m done. ---
**Author:** ![mad\_masala](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/mad_masala/32/182103_2.png) [@mad\_masala](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/mad_masala)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2018, 2:50am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/air-quality-in-taichung/174718/110 "2018-11-26T02:50:55Z")
TBH what my friend told be could be coincidence as she said, or there could have been a politician telling a couple of key people to keep things under control for a couple of days. Or it could be both things. ---
**Author:** ![Brianjones](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/eada6e/32.png) [@Brianjones](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Brianjones)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2018, 2:51am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/air-quality-in-taichung/174718/111 "2018-11-26T02:51:07Z")
Everybody should read this. > **[Facing Up to a Hot, Dirty 10 Years｜Politics &...](https://english.cw.com.tw/article/article.action?id=1675)** > > Taiwan intends to increase the use of renewable energy and phase out nuclear power by 2025. But thermal power plants burning coal and natural gas will still play major roles and could pose serious health risks, especially over the next 10 years. ---
**Author:** ![mad\_masala](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/mad_masala/32/182103_2.png) [@mad\_masala](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/mad_masala)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2018, 2:52am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/air-quality-in-taichung/174718/112 "2018-11-26T02:52:15Z")
> [@Gain](#): > > while YOURS were all personal anecdotes and some stupid bullshit blog articles. “I feel”, “I see” and all that crap But the thing is that apparently everybody living in Taichung seems to agree, they have the same “I feel” and “I see” crap things to say. ---
**Author:** ![Brianjones](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/eada6e/32.png) [@Brianjones](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Brianjones)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2018, 2:52am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/air-quality-in-taichung/174718/113 "2018-11-26T02:52:22Z")
It’s quite likely they reduced operations, they are supposed to routinely do it when PM2.5 reaches 70ppm in Taichung. Air pollution was a major issue in the Taichung mayoral elections . ---
**Author:** ![mad\_masala](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/mad_masala/32/182103_2.png) [@mad\_masala](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/mad_masala)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2018, 2:53am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/air-quality-in-taichung/174718/114 "2018-11-26T02:53:54Z")
@gain, listen. Listen to this: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdbGRNkep5U](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdbGRNkep5U) ---
**Author:** ![overnightoats666](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/overnightoats666/32/35243_2.png) [@overnightoats666](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/overnightoats666)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2018, 2:54am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/air-quality-in-taichung/174718/115 "2018-11-26T02:54:06Z")
> [@Gain](#): > > I’m not telling myself lies. Did you even bother to read what I’ve posted? Those were all from objective, hard statistics, while YOURS were all personal anecdotes and some stupid bullshit blog articles. > > I don’t have time for this. I’m done. Wowowowow, I’m just joking around gain.🕶 Yes, I know your sources are objective and HARD, but my anecdotal and personal experience says otherwise. (I didn’t link and blogs tho) There really is no point in bickering back and forth as your not living and Taichung anymore and can’t see how things _actually_ are firsthand through **anecdotal and personal** experience. LOL ---
**Author:** ![shiadoa](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/shiadoa/32/10295_2.png) [@shiadoa](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/shiadoa)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2018, 2:56am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/air-quality-in-taichung/174718/116 "2018-11-26T02:56:07Z")
It’s no use … Gain has left the room … will never post on this thread again …shame , I see the point , I breathe in the reality though ---
**Author:** ![mad\_masala](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/mad_masala/32/182103_2.png) [@mad\_masala](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/mad_masala)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2018, 2:57am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/air-quality-in-taichung/174718/117 "2018-11-26T02:57:12Z")
I think this thread is a good example of political fanaticism and crazy guitar solos. ---
**Author:** ![Gain](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/b487fb/32.png) [@Gain](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Gain)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2018, 2:58am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/air-quality-in-taichung/174718/118 "2018-11-26T02:58:28Z")
> [@mad\_masala](#): > > TBH what my friend told be could be coincidence as she said, or there could have been a politician telling a couple of key people to keep things under control for a couple of days. Or it could be both things. That is simply not possible as it wasn’t like it was awful for months thens suddenly got better the few days before. It was mostly FINE, with a few bad days here and there. > [@mad\_masala](#): > > But the thing is that apparently everybody living in Taichung seems to agree, they have the same “I feel” and “I see” crap things to say. Basically a couple of bad days are enough to make one think that it’s always like that. Go on that blog posted here. That guy was saying that “you can rarely see blue skies nowdays in Taichung”, which is utter bullshit. And just because 3 people say it’s been getting worse doesn’t mean they have more credibility. I can find a bunch of people arguing otherwise as well. > [@overnightoats666](#): > > There really is no point in bickering back and forth as your not living and Taichung anymore and can’t see how things _actually_ are firsthand through **anecdotal and personal** experience. LOL I stopped living there until 3 months ago, not 30 years ago. ---
**Author:** ![fanglangzhe](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/f/bcef8e/32.png) [@fanglangzhe](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/fanglangzhe)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2018, 2:59am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/air-quality-in-taichung/174718/119 "2018-11-26T02:59:47Z")
Gain, I thought you said you were “done”. But you’re still posting. What’s the point of all of this now (this thread)? You have your views and others have theirs and nobody is going to be convinced by the opposite arguments. ---
**Author:** ![Brianjones](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/eada6e/32.png) [@Brianjones](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Brianjones)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2018, 2:59am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/air-quality-in-taichung/174718/120 "2018-11-26T02:59:49Z")
Gain, did you ever exit your house when you were there ? Maybe you were too busy with your hobby ? ![](https://forumosauploads-12829.kxcdn.com/original/3X/9/c/9c1cdf33162c999ad717b9c2dd127faf7964965f.jpeg) [Previous page](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/air-quality-in-taichung/174718.md?page=5) [Next page](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/air-quality-in-taichung/174718.md?page=7)