America threatening to ban TikTok shows the West's decline

[BiggusDickus]

Why did Xi Jinping send his daughter to evil America? What sort of a father would do such a thing?

[LondonSpice]

Does make him madder than me, as I wouldn’t ever do such a thing.

[jdsmith]

@Rather

I say let’s give China a go, because it’s hard to imagine anything worse than what we currently have.

You’re so edgy.

[jimipresley]

@Rather

the nation’s that prop up it’s insanity

@jdsmith

You’re so edgy.

Maybe the Chinese can teach him how to use an apostrophe.

[TT]

@jimipresley

@jdsmith

You’re so edgy.

Maybe the Chinese can teach him how to use an apostrophe.

Your so edgy?

[jimipresley]

@TT

Your so edgy?

I are.

[jdsmith]

Ur a tiktok

[Explant]

@Rather

@Explant

So when people agree the USA is fairly shitty, how do you react. I noticed you havent addressed any of my points. too centrist ? you dont need to assume everyone is full on conspiracy theory just because they think the CCP is truly shit. trump is shit. biden is shit. almost correct. ccp is shit to an entirely different level. it is advantageous to understand the difference. Whilst understanding places like the USA are also incredibly shit. but not nearly as shitty as China. objectively trumps subjectivity, if I may be a little sarcastic in this obvious fact.

2 wrongs dont make a right. in this, you are correct. this just in no way excuses the CCP tyranny over the past decades. Frankly millenia, but Taiwan showed the world the “chinese way” can split and evolve. shame the world doesnt recognize that.

I haven’t been to China so I can’t say what it’s truly like living there, and there is a lot of propaganda to work through before finding out what the reality is, but yes, it does seem shitty to me.

That said, I think I would need to live there for a significant amount of time to truly know. For example I was in Vietnam recently and had some preconceptions about it being a communist country and all, but there is way more individual freedom there than in Australia, with the exception of talking about the government in a negative way probably.

My view is we are reaching a point where we are choosing what dictator we want basically. At least in a multi polar world there would be some options to choose what flavor of oppression you want.

Then when it comes to the international stage, there is no comparison on how much of a trash country America is, and by extension all the nation’s that prop up it’s insanity.

It’s a pretty sad fact that North Korea has invaded less countries than Australia has, but this is the reality, and as bad as people claim China will be they have many millions of people to kill, many coups to ochastrate, many NGOs and foreign military bases to instal, many leaders to.assasinate and overthrow, many false flags and war crimes to comitt before they even begin to come close to the international shit show America has created in the world to boost its own interests.

I say let’s give China a go, because it’s hard to imagine anything worse than what we currently have.

My suggestion to you then is to open a company and start sourcing. once you are established, start supplying. once you start being a supplier to China and are invited behind the scenes to their operations in order to help reduce their costs, you start to see some real shit.

You never see shit as a tourist, anywhere. USA, China or otherwise. not on any meaningful level that you seem to want to see.

If that is too much, it is still at least fairly easy to go to china and.start talking freedom of speech in public on youtube, facebook etc from within China and.see if you get arrested or not. that can be a fairly simple test as a tourist. Not sarcasm. Everyone can see chinas huge flaws as is, without “living there long term”. You can start to see even more flaws by living there long term, no question. The issue is you dont need to be there to be objective about their oppression. And as many as there are supplying china and seeing first hand their bullshit, it is even worse than if you just lived there and had a normal surface level job.

[BiggusDickus]

@jimipresley

@Rather

the nation’s that prop up it’s insanity

@jdsmith

You’re so edgy.

Maybe the Chinese can teach him how to use an apostrophe.

It might be punctuation with Chinese characteristics.

[Explant]

Y’all be talking grammar nazi when he is talkin actual nazi.

[jdsmith]

Worse. A socialist Nazi!!!

[Explant]

@jdsmith

Worse. A socialist Nazi!!!

With narratives, there is no room for 50 shades of grey.

[Malasang88]

@TT

Thinking about the things I do regularly (cooking, riding a motorcycle, teacher training), i can see the value of training and exercises, but there is no replacement for authentic hands on experience in the real world doing the actual thing

I too have pondered the similarity of killing a man in hand-to-hand combat, training Teacher Mike, and making a kickass ragu.

[TT]

@Malasang88

@TT

Thinking about the things I do regularly (cooking, riding a motorcycle, teacher training), i can see the value of training and exercises, but there is no replacement for authentic hands on experience in the real world doing the actual thing

I too have pondered the similarity of killing a man in hand-to-hand combat, training Teacher Mike, and making a kickass ragu

Fortunately for me, and probably my fictional comrades, I can’t speak from experience as a warfighter. But yeah, killing a man with bare hands must be very different from that ragu; the kind of thing with no real substitute for the real thing

[MikeN1]

@Rather

as bad as people claim China will be they have many millions of people to kill, many coups to ochastrate, many NGOs and foreign military bases to instal, many leaders to.assasinate and overthrow, many false flags and war crimes to comitt before they even begin to come close to the international shit show America has created in the world to boost its own interests.

America has many violations on the world stage, while China concentrates on it’s own

“according to CCP internal investigations in 1978 and 1984 … 21.44 million were investigated, 125 million got implicated in these investigations; […] 4.2 million were detained (by Red Guards and other non-police), 1.3 million were arrested by police, 1.728 million of unnatural deaths; […] 135,000 were executed for crimes of counter-revolution; […] during violent struggles 237,000 were killed and 7.03 million became disabled”.[93][94] While these internal investigations were never mentioned or published in any other official documents, the scholarly consensus found these figures very reasonable.[88] Chen Yung-fa endorsed the figures, yet he noted that peasants suffered far more in the Great Leap Forward than in the Cultural Revolution.[[95]](Cultural Revolution - Wikipedia

• from that right-wing propaganda source
  Facts on the Successive Political Movements since the Founding of the PRC by the CCP Party History Research Center.

[MikeN1]

@TT

I think actual combat experience is better experience than training. Also, actual combat experience can help inform training and exercises

Thinking about the things I do regularly (cooking, riding a motorcycle, teacher training), i can see the value of training and exercises, but there is no replacement for authentic hands on experience in the real world doing the actual thing

What experince in the real world doing the real thing- trying to pacify a country by exchanging gunfire with scattered groups of guerillas, against a foe who has no air- or seapower?
I don’t think hands-on experience will be particularly useful in a war that’s likely to be fought at sea and in the air.

[TT]

@MikeN1

What experince in the real world doing the real thing- trying to pacify a country by exchanging gunfire with scattered groups of guerillas, against a foe who has no air- or seapower?
I don’t think hands-on experience will be particularly useful in a war that’s likely to be fought at sea and in the air.

We can agree to disagree

[jdsmith]

AOC ripped for TikTok video arguing against banning Chinese-owned app

[Explant]

@MikeN1

@Rather

as bad as people claim China will be they have many millions of people to kill, many coups to ochastrate, many NGOs and foreign military bases to instal, many leaders to.assasinate and overthrow, many false flags and war crimes to comitt before they even begin to come close to the international shit show America has created in the world to boost its own interests.

America has many violations on the world stage, while China concentrates on it’s own

“according to CCP internal investigations in 1978 and 1984 … 21.44 million were investigated, 125 million got implicated in these investigations; […] 4.2 million were detained (by Red Guards and other non-police), 1.3 million were arrested by police, 1.728 million of unnatural deaths; […] 135,000 were executed for crimes of counter-revolution; […] during violent struggles 237,000 were killed and 7.03 million became disabled”.[93][94] While these internal investigations were never mentioned or published in any other official documents, the scholarly consensus found these figures very reasonable.[88] Chen Yung-fa endorsed the figures, yet he noted that peasants suffered far more in the Great Leap Forward than in the Cultural Revolution.[[95]](Cultural Revolution - Wikipedia

• from that right-wing propaganda source
  Facts on the Successive Political Movements since the Founding of the PRC by the CCP Party History Research Center.

So true.

As bad as that is, my bigger fear is they are ever emboldened to start claiming others as their own, to which they would no doubt start treating them as their own down the line as well. Scary indeed!