American citizen looking to join Taiwanese Army

Nope to the first part. I was a US Marine. image

Yep to the second part. You lack credibility. It’s as though the things you “know” come straight from a Google search and they always seem to support your argument, which is very fortunate for you.

The ASVAB is not a college entrance test btw. It’s a “Can you read and do math at an 8th grade level” kind of thing. Basic training is physically demanding, but only about 12% or so fail to complete the training.

Service people are deployed overseas. Sure. But not all, and it varies from service.
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Honestly I don’t care about the Taiwanese military. It serves very little purpose but if the OP wants to join up, go ahead. Hope he speaks Taiwanese. To compare the two militaries though is certainly hogwash. And talking about flat feet and fat bodies is hilarious. You think you can talk about any subject based on opinion, but you can’t. Your opinions, here and in other threads, just don’t hold water.

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So you joined the US Marines, so you can come to Taiwan and tell us Taiwanese how much our country sucks compared to yours?

Seems like everyone on the internet just love to point out how little credibility someone has based on your personal experience and whatnot.

I doubt you’d do that in person.

And maybe I’m just talking out my ass and you absolutely LOVE Taiwan and don’t think our country sucks.

But makes you feel really good making someone on the internet feel bad about him/herself right?

He’s not even saying any of those things. He didn’t say anything bad about Taiwan.

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You’d be wrong about that. :whistle:

Yes. You are. I get that are trying to make a point most times I read your posts, but your points are usually founded upon your personal experience and opinion, ie: I lived in America and didn’t like it, I want to run a business but can’t. Then you go on as though you are an expert on all things American and all things bidness.

Not at all. Do you feel bad about what I have been writing? Your writing is literally on the wall here. Why not go back and read through a few of your more contentious threads. You might learn a bit about yourself. :idunno:

Or not. I don’t care one way or another.

Noop. I lived in Taiwan for 18 lovely years, wrote a bunch of kids books, married a loco gal, started a family, opened several successful businesses, and live a comfy life in NY because of my time in Taiwan. I liked TW a lot. What I don’t miss at all are Taiwanese penile instruments that that tell me to go back to my country or some other silly version of xenophobia when they are ones who just won’t shaddup about stuff they don’t know…about.

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Dude. I don’t PM with people I don’t know.

This is not about me liking you or not. I don’t know you. All I know is your posts. That is why I respond to them. It is my belief that your posts lack credibility and that your understanding of certain topics is minimal.

What are you gonna do? It’s the internet. I’m not here to make you feel good about yourself. :runaway:

With all due respect, if that’s what you think, please keep it to yourself. Otherwise you’re basically harassing.

I’m not sure what in this thread made you feel such bad about yourself, but are you talking about Army Physical Fitness Test or something like that?

it seems all you need in the test is one pushup plus 2 miles within 18min42sec, or 2 mile within 17min if zero pushup. It might be slightly harder than taiwanese physical test, but i wouldn’t say it is much harder.


If you are male and have already got a citizenship and younger than 36 yo or sonething, you may be drafted after one year since your hukou was established.
Nationals can also apply for their recruiting, if you are younger than 32 yo.
https://rdrc.mnd.gov.tw/EditPage/?PageID=8398843e-5411-49fa-b4f8-4d3f4e7da572

Though the OP asking the process of getting a citizenship and (maybe then) joining the army, it seems possible to join the army as a foreigner then get a citizenship. I don’t know the process, though.

National Defense Act

Article 34
When friendly nations dispatch forces or military personnel in the ROC territories, their rights and obligations, and other relevant matters shall be regulated by treaties or agreements between both sides. Foreign nationals, upon approval granted by the MND and the Ministry of Interior, may serve in the Republic of China Armed Forces.

Nationality Act

Article 6
A foreign national or stateless person who has made special contributions to the ROC but doesn’t meet the requisites provided in Subparagraphs of Paragraph 1 of Article 3, can also apply for naturalization. Preceding permission of naturalization by the MOI shall be approved by the Executive Yuan.

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Let me know when I’m actually harassing. :whistle:

He didn’t say anything but correct your information about the US military.

You do this often. Mix truths with half truths and incorrect information. And state them as bold facts. Especially about things in the US.

It’s obvious to me, and to someone who was in the military, you don’t know what you’re talking about. I don’t believe you know much about how the US military works like how you replied to jobs in the Air Force to be all pilots.

There are a shit load of jobs in the military. Many don’t even require you to engage in combat while deployed. Even if you’re deployed some are not even war zone and even in a war zone, many jobs don’t even require you to see combat on the front lines.

The physical requirements are not that bad, it’s something I could have done in HS. But people are not in great shape these days, ask any military recruiters and they’ll tell you how miserable it is to find physically fit recruits.

And depending on the branch and what you’re signing up for, mental aptitude isn’t that high for most basic jobs. Air Force requires more mental aptitude generally for example, while army usually don’t. All depends on what you’re doing to do. A army grunt on the front lines requires a very different skill set than a specialist who is supporting. Part of the military is to help people move up socially by giving them a job and education/training. Unless you’re going to a pilot or special forces for example. It really isn’t that bad. Even basic training is far “softer” than before.

The same with Taiwan. I can tell you people in the ROC military aren’t doing the same shit my father did. He had to punch through bricks, push ups with knuckles to kill the nerves, watch for PLA who wants to swim to one of the island to bring back some scalps. These days they can’t discipline you without filing paper work about it.

I guess the point I was making is that someone mentioned joining the US military, but having been through the Taiwanese military, I think it’s a joke and it’s more like a summer camp than actual military. But since we have to be there, they make it easy (relatively). In my dad’s day it was harder for sure. But today drills stop if it gets too hot. The only hard thing is, no AC almost anywhere, even officer’s quarters. I don’t know if this has changed.

This is completely off topic, but there might be some misunderstandings, as was in your guitar maker visiting plan in Kaohsiung. You might find some similar patterns that could cause this kind of situations.

JDsmith,
Ill give you your chicken dinner back if you can guess what I did in the Marine Corps.
signed
dix2111

Small Arms Repairer

Ah, so YOU’RE the gravedigger who started all this? lol

My TW nephews did their mandatory service. It was a few months sitting on their asses. Much more boring to just sit around and fill the suit I would think. I went through PI in 1985 and the PT was more about getting in great shape and becoming a good shot. Nowadays, correct me if your information is more up to date, boot camp is more about making one combat ready, running with full ammo cans for 50-100 yards, and not so much about pull ups. :idunno:

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Medical ? Did they have larger Medics for people with larger biceps?:wink:

See, you’d get hit first. From behind I think.

:stuck_out_tongue::smiley::smiley: this is the last weapon I fired…wonderful
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Oh that’s nice. I like that bolt action stuff. You become a part of the mechanism.

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.50 cal muzzleloader. Dead deer at 100 meters.

I’m a big softie … can’t shoot those cute Deer :cry:. I was lucky enough to shoot for my Country in my youth … but Targets at 200 and 500 yards … without scopes :slightly_smiling_face: Sore shoulders guaranteed with the old .303 Enfield

I believe I was shooting 1,000 yards with an M16. Center mass, baby.