Debating politics with Americans is frustrating, because they keep conflating “liberalism” with “the left”. They also do other strange things, like insisting that Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton are “socialists” and confusing “social democracy” (like what they have in Sweden) with “communism” (like China under Mao).
Yes, social democracy has its intellectual origins in Marxism, and the Democratic Party have slight social democratic leanings, but there’s a world of difference between all of these terms, but a huge amount of Americans don’t seem to have any understanding of any of them. Equating social democracy with communism is almost as insane as believing that National Socialism is the same thing as socialism, but it seems that there’s a rise in people who actually insist on that too. How are you supposed to engage in discussion with people who are so misinformed yet adamant that they’re right?