Anti-Semitism on University Campuses

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Original Title: Anti-Semiticism on University Campuses

[b]Columbia Univ. abuzz about underground film.[/b]

"The film, about anti-Israel sentiment at the school, has not yet been released to the public,
but it has been screened for a number of top officials of Columbia, and talk of its impact
is spreading rapidly on a campus where some students have complained of anti-Israel bias among faculty members.

“The movie is shocking,” one Columbia senior, Ariel Beery, said.

“It is shocking to see blatant use of racial stereotypes by professors and intimidation tactics
by professors in order to push a distinct ideological line on the curriculum,” Mr. Beery,
who was interviewed for the film, said."
(excerted from article)

Interesting observation on what is passing for education and freedom on some university campuses.

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I’ve never understood why the entire world is somehow totally forbidden from ever saying anything even slightl negative about Israel.

EDIT: Not a comment on this film or this story in particular, just a general musing.

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Hmm…interesting spinn.

p.s. - The phenomena written about in this article has been surfacing in a number of US college campuses. This is the first time I have seen it covered by a larger media outlet. Some of the events at San Francosco State in SF have even required police intervention to protect Jewish students from physical attack. Interesting.

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Eh. The program in which I entered college was 48% Jewish, 48% Asian (split approximately equally between Indian/Pakistani and Chinese/Japanese), and 4% WASP. I was the token WASP in my year; the second spot usually reserved for a token WASP ended up going to a token half-WASP half-Jewish kid from California.

At one point, one of the Jewish students asked if I would wear a “khai” (the Hebrew character) to show my support for their religion. Hmm.

I know there is such a thing as anti-Semitism in the world. I sure as hell didn’t see any sign of it in college; quite the opposite in fact.

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Maybe cause I lived in Canada, but I rarely saw any signs of racism within the University, ppl were too busy trying to pass to care about stupid stuff. Frankly though, I hate Isreal, just because if someone uses the word Isreal without the word love in it, ppl assume you are anti-semetic.

I do recall some protests when former prime minister of Isreal tried to speak at Concordia University, as well as when some Canadian MP’s tried giving a speech there, when ppl have to much time, they will protest anything.

vivelecanada.ca/article.php/ … 5175757293

Interesting Read.
The juicy parts…

[quote]It is a damn shame that Mr. Netanyahu did not speak in Montr

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I seriously doubt this is a phenomenon or a trend. You provide no evidence that it is more than a case of a few foolish professors allegedly making stupid remarks at one school. Universities, like other businesses, have occasional scandals here and there involving racism, sexism, harassment and other wrongful conduct. Your article comes from a tiny local paper and contains nothing to suggest this is a broad trend.

Your reference to “university campuses” twice is misleading, because the article concerns alleged incidents at one school only and the thread seems to be merely an attempt to stir up passions, prejudice and hostilities in the same way that Fred did yesterday. Have fun.

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[quote=“Tetsuo”]I’ve never understood why the entire world is somehow totally forbidden from ever saying anything even slightl negative about Israel.

EDIT: Not a comment on this film or this story in particular, just a general musing.[/quote]

Cause we’ve been held hostage by their victim mentality and guilted into it all…

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Because of their long history of genuine oppression in Europe, Jewish-Americans have developed a pro-active sense of self-defense. That is, any time there’s even the slightest hint or whiff of the remote possibility of anti-Semitism, the Anti-Defamation League jumps on it. American Jews are, generally as a group (have to be careful with these generalizations), just about the most extremely touchy and hypersensitive ethnicity in the world to any possible prejudice against them. They view such hypersensitivy to anti-Semitism as necessary for survival - “never again”. The pro-Israeli lobby slickly and cynically exploits this Jewish paranoia.

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Some related links were asked for…no problemo.
Harvard’s Un-American Activities
by William Levine
Harvard Salient
October 4, 2002
"Recent happenings here at Harvard indicate a growing opposition

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“Solidarity” with the Philistines/Palestinians is part and parcel of the buffoonery of the left in large swaths of academia. The “guiding principles” of the Philistine Solidarity Movement (http://palestineconference.com/principles.html), who are disturbingly not as fringe as they should be, are beyond satire.

To wit:

To comment is to be patronizing, but believers of this tripe are so sand-poundingly stupid that one is left with no other choice. You have to wonder…wouldn’t this single principle logically force these idiots to revoke their solidarity with the Philistines tenfold? Why yes, it would, and thousands of gay Arabs living in Tel Aviv (i.e. most conspicuously not living in neigbouring Arab countries), to cite an obvious demographic, would be in agreement there. But then, that would make sense.

Oh no, one could never quibble about strategies such as blowing up pizza parlors and buses filled with civilians.

[quote]The 3rd Conference seeks to promote the following campaigns:
divestment from Israel
ending U.S. aid to Israel
Right of Return[/quote]
This is written in code. Lucky thing the Philistine-supporters aren’t too bright, so the code shouldn’t be too hard to crack. Let me see here, ah yes, here’s what it means: “Israel has no right to exist and should be destroyed.” Hmmm, I don’t know why they bothered putting that bit in code. I mean, that’s what Philistines and Muslim Arabs, not to mention most Muslims in general, have been saying outright since the Balfour Declaration.

As an aside, isn’t it rather peculiar how Muslims worldwide gripe that these third-generation Philistine refugees (think about that for a minute: third-generation refugees!) should be able to set up their own country (and that Israel should cease to exist)? Because, you see, they already have their own country. It’s called Jordan.

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Just out of curiosity, this “documentary” wouldn’t happen to have been produced by persons of the Jewish persuasion, would it…? Not that that would in any way prevent them from being perfectly objective about a subject close to their interests, of course.

I’ll say it again. “Anti-Semitism” is anything the Jews don’t like.

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I would rather use the word “abolished.” “Israel should be abolished.” I’ll say it again: Israel should be abolished. The Zionist state should be abolished and replaced by a democratic secular Palestine.

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I highly doubt anti-semitism would ever become a significant problem in most US college campuses just because many universities have a pretty high percentage of Jewish faculty members. Many medical schools have anywhere from 40 to 80% Jewish professors. IMO, Jewish people as a whole tend to be a hard-working lot, and many are successful. Don’t see too many Jews in the trailer park neighborhoods, do you? I do agree that some of them are pretty sensitive, and probably making a big deal out of a mole hill.

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You would rather use the world “abolished.” That’s cute. Most Muslims would not. They would prefer that the Israelis were killed en masse, or at the very least booted the hell out of Palestine. And, even so, “abolished” by whom? The Islamofascist crazies who are trying to do that very thing? Since when has there been any secular democracy in the Middle East outside of Turkey (and hopefully now, Iraq)? You’re talking in pipe dreams.

What you are advocating is genocide. And the Philistines already have their country anway – Jordan. Look at a map. Why can’t the Israelis have their tiny slice? More Jews in 1948 lost more land and more property in the Middle East than did the Arabs. And now they should be ethnically cleansed out of the region, as 1 billion Muslims around the world fervently desire?

Oh, I’m sorry, there a few second generation Muslim moderate kids in Scarborough who think maybe the Israelis and the Philistines should be able to live side by side. I forgot about them. One of them is named Hakim, and the other is Khalil, if I’m not mistaken. Though they don’t want word to get around they’re not extremist bigots who loathe Jews with every fibre of their being–seems even in Toronto, the world’s most ethnically cosmopolitan city with undoubtedly the most benign cross-cultural interaction on this green earth, Muslims dare not stick their heads out too far on that score.

Hyperbole? Yeah, a little, for effect. Still, show me the Muslim moderates out there who advocate a two-state solution, and I’ll show you people whose lives are endangered.

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Ahhh…Excellent…a shinning example of anti-Semiticism right here on Forumosa.com.
Here is a person who is not into subtle undertones. No disguised inflection here. This person has the fortitude to bring their dfiscriminatory rhetoric right out front and proudly wave it.
Hmmm…I’m not sure - does anti-Semiticism also qualify as racism? I was never sure about that.

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MOD: WTF? Did you delete my last post? If so why? It was perfectly courteous and appropriate. In case it was a mistake, I’ll repeat the question.

Taiwancowboy, can you please tell me what was your purpose in creating this thread and in your follow-up posts. Seriously, it appears to me that you don’t have any genuine interest in anti-semitism on college campuses. You don’t seem to be jewish or a college student or particularly concerned about racial or ethnic discrimination and it doesn’t appear that your purpose in creating this thread was to elicit interesting discussion.

Instead, I get the impression that your sole intention in creating this thread, and in your follow-up posts, was/is to stir up shit. . . to incite some racist comments, some hostilities, and get people pissed off at each other. I could be wrong, but that’s how it appears to me.

Could you inform me if that is true? Is the purpose of this thread solely to stir up shit and piss people off? If so, why would you want to do that? Why would that give you pleasure? Seriously, I’m curious to know.

Thanks for the courtesy of your reply.

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Ahhh…Excellent…a shinning example of anti-Semiticism right here on Forumosa.com.
Here is a person who is not into subtle undertones. No disguised inflection here. This person has the fortitude to bring their dfiscriminatory rhetoric right out front and proudly wave it.
Hmmm…I’m not sure - does anti-Semiticism also qualify as racism? I was never sure about that.[/quote]
First things first: The word you’re looking for is anti-Semitism, not anti-Semiticism.
Second: It is entirely possible to be anti-Israel without being anti-Jew. Even Hasidic Jews aren’t convinced of the legitimacy of the government in Israel, it’s no surprise that other non-Jewish people also have doubts. Count me among them. I think the basic concept of Israel as a Jewish nation is flawed. I have no problems with Jews though.

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Ahhh…Excellent…a shinning example of anti-Semiticism right here on Forumosa.com.
Here is a person who is not into subtle undertones. No disguised inflection here. This person has the fortitude to bring their dfiscriminatory rhetoric right out front and proudly wave it.
Hmmm…I’m not sure - does anti-Semiticism also qualify as racism? I was never sure about that.[/quote]
How does being opposed to Israel get translated into being anti-Semitic??

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And? I’m curious to know what you’d suggest to do about it and what you’d like to have there instead? As a BTW, the majority of the “Jews” in Israel are as religious as some Taiwanese here, who go to the temple once every ten years just for the heck of it. Nothing more. Most of the “Jews” in Israel definitely have nothing in common with “Orthodox Jews”.

About Turkey: It’s composed almost entirely by Sunni Muslims where the only reason it might be considered as a democracy is thanks to the army.

I have a question of my own in regard to the United States In God We Trust of America. It is a well known fact that the vast majority there is white and Christian. Almost 80%. Right? What do you guys reckon would happen if it became known that in twenty years the majority would be composed of Latin people, or Muslims, or whatever?
Lets not forget glorious multicultural Canada where 82% are Christian. Probably most are white as well.

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[quote=“Mother Theresa”]MOD: WTF? Did you delete my last post? If so why? It was perfectly courteous and appropriate. In case it was a mistake, I’ll repeat the question.

Taiwancowboy, can you please tell me what was your purpose in creating this thread and in your follow-up posts. Seriously, it appears to me that you don’t have any genuine interest in anti-semiticism on college campuses. You don’t seem to be Jewish or a college student or particularly concerned about racial or ethnic discrimination and it doesn’t appear that your purpose in creating this thread was to elicit interesting discussion.

Instead, I get the impression that your sole intention in creating this thread, and in your follow-up posts, was/is to stir up shit. . . to incite some racist comments, some hostilities, and get people pissed off at each other. I could be wrong, but that’s how it appears to me.

Could you inform me if that is true? Is the purpose of this thread solely to stir up shit and piss people off? If so, why would you want to do that? Why would that give you pleasure? Seriously, I’m curious to know.

Thanks for the courtesy of your reply.[/quote]

My rather eloquent reply to your question was also removed. However, I do not have my post ‘saved’ or available for re-post.
Ask the mods to return my post to this thread and read my answer. It should have been totally in accordance to board standards. But, as I am merely a guest here, I respect their final decisions as to what ism and what is not appropriate.

Maoman…I accept full responsibility for any & all spelling errors in my posts.

When one calls for the “abolishment of Israel” and rants about the “Zionist state”, I feel comfortable as viewing that person as anti-Semite/Jewish. There is more to that persons conclusions than a dis-agreement with the legitimacy of the state of Israel.

My reply to MT’s harangue contained material which, I do believe, was relevant to your question.