Few days before one person propose me to join Amway Taiwan. He told me it can be a good job and I can earn money. I dont have so much idea about Amway.As a international student in Taiwan can I join? Is there anyone in this forum have experience to do this?
It’s the same sort of scam it’s always been elsewhere. It can earn you money if you too can reel in layers upon layers of suckers for the lower levels of the pyramid scheme. Don’t know if it’s legal for someone here on a student visa, but that shouldn’t matter as you’d be foolish to let yourself get roped in.
My first impression was also same to you.
I saw an ad about PT job on net and I applied. After that a person phones me and said he wants talk face to face in his office. At his office he informed me that I am not suitable for that job but if I want can earn money by joining amway.
Anyway thanks a lot for ur comments
I have a very good friend who is a diamond in South Africa. We are friends, but my personality just doesn’t suit this type of idea. Make sure this is what you really want to do with your life and be ready for a lot of disappointment before you get even a hint of success. There is NO gaurantee of success in network marketing.
[quote=“mostafakazi”]My first impression was also same to you.
I saw an ad about PT job on net and I applied. After that a person phones me and said he wants talk face to face in his office. At his office he informed me that I am not suitable for that job but if I want can earn money by joining amway.
Anyway thanks a lot for your comments[/quote]
That’s a new angle. Set up a fake job interview to lure people in. Actually kind of crafty.
Amway?
Run away! Run far away!!
I have a friend doing it up in Ilan, they’re brilliant at it. How they’re doing it though is to buy bucketloads of the merchandise and then run around town selling it (this way you get money for the merch you buy + profit from selling it on). Eventually some of the people who buy it will join up and sell it themselves, and their customers join up… etc.
It’s slightly cultish (I was dragged to a conference in Taichung. Reminds me of a fanatical evangelical church). You can make a LOT of money if you’re willing to work all the damn time, though. If you appreciate your quality of life NOW, or have the brains and some skills to find another contract job, then I’d advise against it. Or if you’re just shocking at marketing, like I am.
“Slightly cultish”?
Um, brainwashingly, soul-sellingly, principlelessly, amazingly, totally, supermega-awesomely cultish, maybe.
almost like Scientology!
That one has been around for decades. After all, if you don’t have a network of people to sell to then you have to drag in complete strangers.
If that were a cost-effective way of promoting the business, then Amway would be doing it for themselves. Instead, they let their independent distributors spend the money and few of them ever make a return on it.
Think about it this way: calculate how fast your network needs to grow in order for you to reach your financial goals. Now ask yourself what about the people who you introduce to the ‘business’, and all the other people who are joining to enable your lifestyle of wealth and pleasure. They all want the same thing, so the network has to continue growing AT THE SAME SPEED.
If everyone introduces one new person per month, then you have 1,024 people in your network after a year. If they’re not useful people then you are wasting your time, so you have to be recruiting useful people who all recruit useful people. After another year, those one thousand people are each presiding over a network of a thousand people, for a total of one million. A year later, it’s a billion, whic gives an average of seven potential customers for each one. And there is no room for further growth. So why would the last people in ever consider joining?
And if they don’t join, then the people who were in before them are not going to make any money either. And so on, back to you.
So, the one-year scenario is not realistic. Let’s make it ten years. Ten years to build a network of a thousand useful people. Twenty to get a million, thirty to get a billion. I’ve been aware of Amway for nearly thirty years, and they have been around a lot longer than that. But still they haven’t reached the magic number. This can only be because the network is not growing, which means your network will probably not grow either, so you’re wasting your time.
On the other hand, the initial outlay is very small and you don’t have to spend a lot of money to give it a go. If you have nothing else to do with your time, you may find it an educational experience to give it a go. There is a fair amount of intelligent advice mixed in with the bullshit - if you can seperate the two.
Just make sure to set clear rules for yourself about how much time and money you are prepared to invest, and what result you need in what time period to make it worthwhile carrying one. Before you start, set a goal for three or six months, and if you don’t reach it then get the fuck out.
If you don’t believe in it, you hate America.
:roflmao:
Amway as far as I know it does come from AMerican WAY.
Imagine if they come up with Iranian WAY _ I-way.
People will think it is somehow related to some Fruity company.
iWay is an Apple dairy product.
[quote=“urodacus”]“Slightly cultish”?
Um, brainwashingly, soul-sellingly, principlelessly, amazingly, totally, supermega-awesomely cultish, maybe.
almost like Scientology![/quote]
I’ve lost a couple friends to Amway. Amway became their life. When I got together with them, all conversations led to Amway, and their goal was to sell, sell, sell to all their friends and relatives, and to every stranger they met. When they invited me over to their homes for get-togethers, they were Amway demonstrations.
It is very cultish. You can google Amway Cult, or read the book “Amway: the Cult of Free Enterprise”. I’ve been to a couple Amway meetings, and they were like cult meetings with chanting and lofty promises of (financial) salvation, if only you follow the one true path. You are sold (yes, sold, not given) tapes (perhaps now they’re CDs) of this one true path, so you can be further indoctrinated in the comfort of your home.
They also seem to be associated with far-right-wing politics. And most people who join are essentially working hard and generating profits for the company and the “up-line” while gaining little or no income themselves: it can be seen as a way for the company to get around minimum wage and anti-slavery laws.
Hey! I’d like to tell you about this amazing opportunity with this awesome company called Herbal Life! You can make bucket loads of money and retire to your own island in the Pacific!
Let me know if you’re interested! 
I’m just kidding btw…
Forget about selling overpriced showel gel, there’s plenty of ways to make money online now risk-free; people who study abroad can easily make a living online if they work hard enough.
Be careful about this kind of email. I found this ad for job in KaohsiungLiving group. I think this is fake add. his intention is to collect member for Amway.
FROM: jobcenter11
TO: XXXXXXX@yahoogroups.com
Message flagged Tuesday, May 24, 2011 10:46 AM
Job(1)language School is looking for English teacher,Thu.3:30-6:30pm.two times a
month.at Gansun.
Job(2)language School is looking for English teacher,Mon, and
Thu.4:30-9:00pm.longterm job.
if you interested please connect to 092XXXXXXX.
Ex-student of mine got involved with them after graduation. She contacted me with a message that she wanted me to be her first (which got my attention) but it turned out that she wanted me under her in the pyramid.
We went to thier Tainan HQ which is kind of a honey-pot combo coffee-shop and outlet for thier cosmeticsNstuff. Quite nice coffee and lots of nice-looking young women with only one thing on thier mind.
Selling.
Oh, OK, two things. Selling and recruiting.
You could join just for access to the cafe but I’m not often in that part of town so I declined. Could be worth it though. Dont think it was very expensive.
I bought some toothpaste. It was OK.
She so wanted to believe that I couldn’t bring myself to be too critical, though I did try and gently suggest that this sounded like a pyramid scheme, and that they, logically, could not work as advertised.
It was sad. Dunno what happened to her. EDIT: But I rather doubt she was nasty enough to succeed at this game.
Amway, and their online version ‘Quixtar’ is the equivalent of leftist/progressive Obama sheeple.
No morals, no conscience…just recruit new “believers” into the cult.
The ‘tea tree oil’ cult here is pretty much the same…better product though thanks to exclusionary import rules implemented by followers of this multi-level company. Tea tree oil is a good thing…but other brands never make it to the island thanls to the cult.