Anybody interested in starting up (non-tech) in Taiwan?

Hi all,

I’m currently running a small business (not education or fitness-related) in Canada, and long story short it’s not a greater market for business / economy, and I’ve recently had thoughts to explore investing and doing business in Taiwan – yes, considering a gradual relocation if things are on track.

Two ideas that I have personal interest in and feel strongly about:

  1. An experience-based English language / education business, and
  2. A fitness studio that’s like F45, offers Hyrox classes, and other group-based classes.

My wife is Taiwanese (I’m Canadian-Chinese, born in Canada) and we’re making a trip back to Taipei mid-February to mid-March. Interested to see if there’s anybody else on this forum that might be interested in similar ideas, and keen to connect either virtually or in person when I’m there – even if it’s just to share experiences, spitball ideas, discuss feasibility, or whatever really.

I would find things that cater to the growing rich population. Taiwan has the fastest expected growth rate of new millionaires right now.

Start a business called ‘Street Chinese’ where language’moms’ ditch the classrooms and take language learners out on the streets of Taipei to learn to speak Chinese by negotiating real life situations. Tourists and newcomers could sign up for combination tour guide/street language learning sessions to get them up to real life speed faster than they could manage on their own

Thot i read sweet chainese…

I think for the ideas that I’ve listed I’m envisioning targeting those with disposable income and not just everyone on the street.

unless you mean go for something ultra premium or high end? If so, any thoughts or ideas?

I was just giving you a direction I would go with.

Most people I know who made a lot in business in Taiwan are exporting. But I think you can now also make good money catering to the needs of a growing class of rich Taiwanese.

Some related discussion here:

Private equity

Both of these ideas could be feasible. There’s thousands of fitness studios and gyms, but it doesn’t mean you couldn’t succeed , but you may need to be an affluent area for that.

For English education ‘experience’ yeah maybe it can work but would have to figure out if that was for kids or adults. A lot of money is spent on kids education . I think for adults I wouldn’t bet on it being successful. Adults are very busy and also they like having fun going on trips to Japan more than anything now. They go there skiing, touring, looking for property , even learning Japanese baking I don’t see a great hunger or interest amongst them for English learning. Yep I can only really see it for kids myself.

New millionaires or just millionaires becoming richer. I would very much bet it’s the latter and there’s quite a difference.

A bit like vinyl decision, they basically cater to guys with more money than they know to do with.

Yes I was thinking kids, max teenagers and would see how things go from there. I only noticed a lot of cramschools and buxiban on my trips there, are there a lot of experiential learning businesses there right now?

People are going to have a lot more leisure time in the near future. Anything that caters to that.

I can see that happening. But curious to understand what your insight is that’ll drive that leisure time?

AI and automation. I don’t think it’s going to be as profound a change as the tech bros will have us believe, but a lot of people aren’t going to be working. They’ll have to be taken care of by the State, so they’ll have some kind of disposable income.

Very easy to become a new (USD) millionaire in Taiwan. Just inherit a house and sell it! :whistle:

My mate’s dad died and he left a portfolio of 33 properties that nobody in the family knew about. He lived like a pauper as well.

new millionaires are the best suckers for private equity

and millennials are the best target, considering they will/are inheriting their parent’s pile of gold

think: Robinhood, but wearing a suit and tie instead of a silicon valley hoodie

10k twd a month, every month??? Free???

Genius!!!

That second universal cash dispersement that just happened might even be a test of universal basic income the government is doing. They’re trying to see what the cost will be and what effect it will have on the economy.