I want to test drive Ford Ranger crew cab, but so far not see any dealership has them, and definitely not in Yilan county where I live (I stop by at one dealership, the address I found at Ford.com.tw in Yilan, but they don’t have Ranger and dealer even didn’t know about this model 
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If anyone see it in Northern Taiwan please let me know.
Thank you
A few years back I saw one displayed at a dealership in Nangang when I was roaming around in my car, though I don’t quite remember the exact address. I took notice of it only because I drive the same shit in Haiti (u know in Taiwan we don’t have that much of a choice concerning pickup trucks.) The ones we get here are all made in Thailand, though am not sure if the quality varies from the ones made in South America or State-side, not sure. But I’m not too fond of it, to be honest. After a year beating the backroads in Haiti it seems like its not as “bombproof” as the likes of Toyota Hiace or 'bishi Sportero. In my case the pickup began giving up on me a few times (engine running lean, two busted shock absorbers, interior consoles rattling like mad, A/C not as cold as it used to be, etc.) And when compared to our other 8 Hiaces and Sporteros doing the same job and are 5 years older than the Ranger, no such problems were encountered. Just 
I have (or had, havn’t had any meetings since last semester) a private student who’s a Ford dealer in Tainan. Should be seeing him on friday so I’ll try and remember to ask.
Thanks, I want to buy a new four door pickup, the same they sell in Australia, not sure about Ausie version but one for Taiwan is manufactured in Thailand.
I see a few at Taipei’s dealerships, so if time permits I maybe test drive next it next week.
My T4 Caravelle power steering rack that I replaced (refurbished) 13 months ago start leacking badly, got me pissed off… :fume:
I’ve read few reviews on Ranger from people who use and abuse them in Australia and it seems that it very reliable and good car.
They also, as a Taiwan Ranger manufactured in Thailand
Wanted to see this track http://goods.ruten.com.tw/item/show?21205036243503#auc but affraid will not have time this weekend 
I looooved my Ranger, back home (20 years ago). Sporty model, sport suspension and all that. Still miss it. I’ve not seen them here, ever.
DP
You can buy one, but good luck registering it to the name on your I.D., unless you are a Taiwanese citizen with a business.
I saw the dealer marked as traded/sold. Have you bought it. If it is yours now, Congraturation!
[quote=“feropont”]I’ve read few reviews on Ranger from people who use and abuse them in Australia and it seems that it very reliable and good car.
They also, as a Taiwan Ranger manufactured in Thailand
Wanted to see this track http://goods.ruten.com.tw/item/show?21205036243503#auc but affraid will not have time this weekend [/quote]
You can buy one, but good luck registering it to the name on your I.D., unless you are a Taiwanese citizen with a business.[/quote]
That’s one variant of the story. Other variants include:-
(a) Its nothing to do with being a taiwanese citizen and everything to do with having/being a bizniz.
(b) 4-door/crewcabs can be registered privately at first registration, 2-doors can’t.
I dunno.
Dunno if it was a Ranger (big square pickup truck with Ford written on it) but there was an old one (I’d guess circa 1990) parked behind the beach at Anping “New Island” this weekend.
Didn’t see the Ford guy on Friday, sorry. Maybe this week.
there is a rumors that 2013 new model will be offering Wildtrack that already for sale in Australia, additionally to basic model that Ford sell already here in Taiwan 
You can buy one, but good luck registering it to the name on your I.D., unless you are a Taiwanese citizen with a business.[/quote]
That’s one variant of the story. Other variants include:-
(a) Its nothing to do with being a taiwanese citizen and everything to do with having/being a bizniz.
(b) 4-door/crewcabs can be registered privately at first registration, 2-doors can’t.
I dunno.[/quote]
I do…And Sulavaca is correct. If you aren’t a Taiwanese national, or own your own business…You ain’t buying a truck in your name, whether it be two door, 4 door, or 12 door.
Why not just look at Toyota Tacoma? They are here, can be found used, are totally reliable and have excellent resale value…Even if they are a bit small. I agree with earlier posters…Ranger ain’t really a work truck. Most of the pickups in Aus require water anyway…So that they might actually grow.
What’s your budget?
You can buy one, but good luck registering it to the name on your I.D., unless you are a Taiwanese citizen with a business.[/quote]
That’s one variant of the story. Other variants include:-
(a) Its nothing to do with being a taiwanese citizen and everything to do with having/being a bizniz.
(b) 4-door/crewcabs can be registered privately at first registration, 2-doors can’t.
I dunno.[/quote]
I do…And Sulavaca is correct. If you aren’t a Taiwanese national, or own your own business…You ain’t buying a truck in your name, whether it be two door, 4 door, or 12 door.
[/quote]
Not to be picky/legalistic, but in the context of these rules its unavoidable.
“Taiwanese citizen with a business.” (as per Mr S above) and “Taiwanese national, or own your own business” (as per you above, my italics and underline) are two different things.
According to the information that emerged (from Mr S, confirmed by the DMV) in your Discrimination at DMV? thread here:-
forumosa.com/taiwan/viewtopi … 0#p1119520
there are two categories of trucks
“客貨車: This category of vehicle you are allowed to place under your name, but only assuming you either have a business or belong to a “公會”( *see below).” (Ed:The wee housey thing is some kind of co-op)
Mr S also says
“Its not technically anything about you being a foreigner. Locals have the same issue if they don’t hold a business license.” – this apparently only applies to this (first) category of vehicle.
貨車: This category is limited to Taiwan citizens only with specific types of businesses such as perhaps farms, construction etc.”
Again according to that discussion, reported confirmed by you with the DMV, the (or at least one) defining characteristic of the second category is that they only had one row of seats at first registration.
“Unfortunately, the truck was registered as a single seater, in fact, I just got off the phone with the DMV guy that did it. In respect, he actually gave me a call and told me all about doing this for this vehicle back in late 2004. They actually pulled the rear seats out for the inspection.”
Seat rows usually correlate with door number, so it does seem to matter whether they have “two, four, or twelve doors.”
Since its an interpretation of a DMV regulation, of course it remains unclear. There is apparently at least one other loophole, since you successfully registered your Toyota Tundra , (which was first registered with the rear seats removed, and therefore apparently falls into the second category) to your own (construction? farming?) bizniz, and you are not IIRC a Taiwanese national. That is, however, probably outside the scope of a discussion of own-name registration.
We’ve also had a report of a non-business registration of a four-door truck by a foreigner, here:-
forumosa.com/taiwan/viewtopi … 0#p1418675
“We talk about twin cabs, and he told me he just bought new Ford Ranger diesel twin cab (had to wait 3 months for delivery as it manufactured in Thailand) so he registered his truck without to have any company. Maybe regulations changed?”
IF this is true, its probably relevant that it was a twin-cab
Like I say there, I dunno. And its a fucking Taiwan DMV regulation, so I’m probably not going to live long enough to find out.
You can buy one, but good luck registering it to the name on your I.D., unless you are a Taiwanese citizen with a business.[/quote]
That’s one variant of the story. Other variants include:-
(a) Its nothing to do with being a taiwanese citizen and everything to do with having/being a bizniz.
(b) 4-door/crewcabs can be registered privately at first registration, 2-doors can’t.
I dunno.[/quote]
I do…And Sulavaca is correct. If you aren’t a Taiwanese national, or own your own business…You ain’t buying a truck in your name, whether it be two door, 4 door, or 12 door.
[/quote]
Not to be picky/legalistic, but in the context of these rules its unavoidable.
“Taiwanese citizen with a business.” (as per Mr S above) and “Taiwanese national, or own your own business” (as per you above, my italics and underline) are two different things.
According to the information that emerged (from Mr S, confirmed by the DMV) in your Discrimination at DMV? thread here:-
forumosa.com/taiwan/viewtopi … 0#p1119520
there are two categories of trucks
“客貨車: This category of vehicle you are allowed to place under your name, but only assuming you either have a business or belong to a “公會”( *see below).” (Ed:The wee housey thing is some kind of co-op)
Mr S also says
“Its not technically anything about you being a foreigner. Locals have the same issue if they don’t hold a business license.” – this apparently only applies to this (first) category of vehicle.
貨車: This category is limited to Taiwan citizens only with specific types of businesses such as perhaps farms, construction etc.”
Again according to that discussion, reported confirmed by you with the DMV, the (or at least one) defining characteristic of the second category is that they only had one row of seats at first registration.
“Unfortunately, the truck was registered as a single seater, in fact, I just got off the phone with the DMV guy that did it. In respect, he actually gave me a call and told me all about doing this for this vehicle back in late 2004. They actually pulled the rear seats out for the inspection.”
Seat rows usually correlate with door number, so it does seem to matter whether they have “two, four, or twelve doors.”
Since its an interpretation of a DMV regulation, of course it remains unclear. There is apparently at least one other loophole, since you successfully registered your Toyota Tundra , (which was first registered with the rear seats removed, and therefore apparently falls into the second category) to your own (construction? farming?) bizniz, and you are not IIRC a Taiwanese national. That is, however, probably outside the scope of a discussion of own-name registration.
We’ve also had a report of a non-business registration of a four-door truck by a foreigner, here:-
forumosa.com/taiwan/viewtopi … 0#p1418675
“We talk about twin cabs, and he told me he just bought new Ford Ranger diesel twin cab (had to wait 3 months for delivery as it manufactured in Thailand) so he registered his truck without to have any company. Maybe regulations changed?”
IF this is true, its probably relevant that it was a twin-cab
Nobody will bring in a dual cab and register it as such…the difference in tax would be 300% annually, essentially killing it’s resale value. Remember that I only pay 22k per year in taxes, vs someone driving a Lexus 470L (same motor size) SUV, whose tax would be 60,000+ per year. Add that up over 10 years and you are talking a heap of change.
So forget about multi passenger registration, it will kill you in taxes…and nobody will do it. The default position is to register as single row seater 2x pax truck. I’ve been driving mine for over 2 years now, carrying up to 22 pax (yes, it’s true) and nobody cares.
As far as my finding a loophole…Nope. as long as you have a Taiwan registered company, they couldn’t care less who owns it…Full stop.
If you are serious about purchasing a truck (eg, not just blowing smoke on forums), I will be happy to return to the DMV for a clear ruling on the matter, as I’m reasonably sure I’m one of the very few who has actually pulled this off.
Cheers,
MJB
Like I say there, I dunno. And its a fucking Taiwan DMV regulation, so I’m probably not going to live long enough to find out.[/quote]
I guess it’s just a matter of calling local DMV to find correct answer or maybe send e-mail to Ford in Taiwan. In any case I have business registered to my wife, so I don’t think of it as a big obstacle.
I know there are more used Tacoma’s on Taiwan Market as it’s for sale for quit a while than Rangers (crew cab) as its a new car on Taiwan market.
Looks like Tacoma and Ranger are pretty much the same dimensions. Of course Toyota famous for quality and resale value but the price is also 30-40% higher
You can just ask the dealership which category the truck falls into. They should have the information on hand.
The above discussion seems to confirm that with a new twin-cab, you have a once-only choice which category you register the vehicle under.
Not personally relevant to me, since I don’t want a twin-cab. Just trying to blow away a little more smoke.
(I want a Datsun 1200 pickup, though I think the chances of finding one at an acceptable price are slim.)
The above discussion seems to confirm that with a new twin-cab, you have a once-only choice which category you register the vehicle under.[/quote]
That’s right, and quite often U.S. imports are already registered before you transfer one to your name, meaning that they are already fixed to their relevant category. This means that you can typically ask the seller/dealer which category their particular vehicle belongs to.