[quote]“I think it’s the reality, and the general perception of the public that independence isn’t plausible anymore,” says Emile Sheng of Taipei’s Soochow University. “It’s not a viable option.”
Taiwan specialist Shelley Rigger of Davidson College in North Carolina (states), “For a time in the 90s it was possible to imagine that China was not serious about blocking Taiwanese independence,” she says. “But that is no longer tenable. The message has gotten through.”
Philip Yang of Taipei’s National Taiwan University, “There’s a sense of both economic and political risk,” he says. “You will lose all your economic and trade interests. And you will end up totally isolated politically.”
A pro-independence rally is set for Taipei on Sept. 8, sponsored by the “Movement for a Taiwanese State,” which has supporters among both the Democratic Progressive Party and one of its key allies, the Taiwan Solidarity Union.
However the rally has so far attracted little attention, and attendance is expected to be sparse.[/quote] source
Well CNN has put the final nail in the coffin of the Taiwan Independence movement. Don’t none of you try to prove CNN wrong by marching in the streets on Sept. 8.
[quote]Well CNN has put the final nail in the coffin of the Taiwan Independence movement. Don’t none of you try to prove CNN wrong by marching in the streets on Sept. 8.
Mayor/Chairman Ma will be watching.[/quote]
I’ll be there, for this little guy.
Oh yeah, and there were news reports back in the early 1990’s where CNN was like “Is China going to collapse under its own weight?” “Oppressive regimes are over” and stuff and such. Sure did put the final nail in the coffin for the Chinese Communist Party! Yup, Suree!
Its not uncommon for articles to step ahead of themselves. Especially ones from any news sources that fail to quote the author, they tend to jump the gun or be most subjective, by avoiding responsiblity.
Taiwan Independence has been around since or before the Manchu’s invaded Taiwan. It won’t die because of a news article, author unsourced, and a few unnamed analysts.
CNN may well be right - that people now feel a stronger sense of risk about the proposition - but AC is wrong. That’s certainly not the “final naill in the coffin” by any stretch.
[quote=“ac_dropout”][quote]“I think it’s the reality, and the general perception of the public that independence isn’t plausible anymore,” says Emile Sheng of Taipei’s Soochow University. “It’s not a viable option.”
Taiwan specialist Shelley Rigger of Davidson College in North Carolina (states), “For a time in the 90s it was possible to imagine that China was not serious about blocking Taiwanese independence,” she says. “But that is no longer tenable. The message has gotten through.”
Philip Yang of Taipei’s National Taiwan University, “There’s a sense of both economic and political risk,” he says. “You will lose all your economic and trade interests. And you will end up totally isolated politically.”
A pro-independence rally is set for Taipei on Sept. 8, sponsored by the “Movement for a Taiwanese State,” which has supporters among both the Democratic Progressive Party and one of its key allies, the Taiwan Solidarity Union.
However the rally has so far attracted little attention, and attendance is expected to be sparse.[/quote] source
Well CNN has put the final nail in the coffin of the Taiwan Independence movement. Don’t none of you try to prove CNN wrong by marching in the streets on Sept. 8.
Mayor/Chairman Ma will be watching.[/quote]
I would not be surprised if the academics in question are either pan-blue or pro-china. CNN once said that Taiwan would be unable to fend off a Chinese invasion and that Iraq would degenerate into civil war once Saddam is ousted.
I feel that CNN is too biased, after all their websites are accessible in China and they are allowed to operate ithere for a “special” reason. I guess this is proof of that reason.
I corrected the thread title yesterday, but not everyone seems to have picked up on this yet. So let me be more direct: The story is from the Associated Press, not CNN.
I don’t know which AP writer did the story, though. I’d be surprised if this is William Foreman’s work.
One of the analysts says, “For a time in the 90s it was possible to imagine that China was not serious about blocking Taiwanese independence,” she says. “But that is no longer tenable. The message has gotten through.”
I wonder just what time in the 1990s she is referring to. The early 1990s, in the aftermath of Tian’anmen Square? Yeah, that was a great time for thinking maybe Beijing didn’t have the will for bloodshed. Perhaps 1995, when Lee Teng-hui visited the United States and Beijing screamed and yelled and threatened? In 1996, when China lobbed missiles near Taiwan? In the later 1990s, when Beijing boosted its efforts to keep Taiwan out of just about everything? And let’s not forget the reaction to Lee’s “two sides” statements. (“Eventual reunification” was no longer good enough.) Or in the runup to the 2000 election, when Beijing again acted with menace toward Taiwan, saying, “You’d better not vote for the wrong candidate”?
So it is true William Foreman the AP’s Taipei bureau chief no longer supports Taiwan Independence and is using the English language news media to sway public opinion against the Taiwan Independence movement?
The article was an incredibly pathetic piece of journalism. The journalist that wrote it should never be allowed to write again and the editors that ran it should be given similarly severe punishment.
Well, one time in the lounge at Narita I did hear the CNN anchor Mike Chinoy complaining about how the US editors weren’t paying attention, forcing him to make silly cultural exposes in China when “we were going to walk into a war” with China over Taiwan.
[quote=“Elegua”]Well, one time in the lounge at Narita I did hear the CNN anchor Mike Chinoy complaining about how the US editors weren’t paying attention, forcing him to make silly cultural exposes in China when “we were going to walk into a war” with China over Taiwan.
Perhaps 1995, when Lee Teng-hui visited the United States and Beijing screamed and yelled and threatened? In 1996, when China lobbed missiles near Taiwan? In the later 1990s, when Beijing boosted its efforts to keep Taiwan out of just about everything? And let’s not forget the reaction to Lee’s “two sides” statements. (“Eventual reunification” was no longer good enough.) Or in the runup to the 2000 election, when Beijing again acted with menace toward Taiwan, saying, “You’d better not vote for the wrong candidate”?
