Are Africans physically superior to Westerners?

Are Africans physically superior to Westerners?

They’re certainly a lot better at basketball. 80% of players in the American NBA are of African descent.
Orlando Magic center Rony Seikley said “If 80% of the league is black, that means that black players are better than white players … the black players are superior. No doubt.”

Olympians of African descent frequently come out on top of any long and short distance running events.

Isn’t it time Europeans admitted they were inferior physically to Africans?

Most players in the AFL/soccer/NFL are white, hence white people must be physically superior to :ponder: :ohreally: :loco:

Most people who play baseball (in Taiwan) are asian, hence asian people must be physically superior to white people? :ponder: :ohreally:

Actually, there has been research on this. Black people from Africa have a higher center of gravity allowing them to perform better in sports that involve running. Whites and Asians both have lower centers of gravity and are better at swimming.

[quote]In the record books, the swiftest sprinters tend to be of West African ancestry and the faster swimmers tend to be white.

A study of the winning times by elite athletes over the past 100 years reveals two distinct trends: not only are these athletes getting faster over time, but there is a clear divide between racers in terms of body type and race.

Last year, a Duke University engineer explained the first trend - athletes are getting faster because they are getting bigger. Adrian Bejan, professor of engineering at Duke’s Pratt School of Engineering, now believes he can explain the second trend.

In a paper published online in the International Journal of Design and Nature and Ecodynamics, Bejan, and co-authors Edward Jones, a Ph.D. candidate at Cornell University currently teaching at Howard University, and Duke graduate Jordan Charles, argue that the answer lies in athletes’ centers of gravity. That center tends to be located higher on the body of blacks than whites. The researchers believe that these differences are not racial, but rather biological.

“There is a whole body of evidence showing that there are distinct differences in body types among blacks and whites,” said Jones, who specializes in adolescent obesity, nutrition and anthropometry, the study of body composition. “These are real patterns being described here – whether the fastest sprinters are Jamaican, African or Canadian – most of them can be traced back generally to Western Africa.”

Swimmers, Jones said, tend to come from Europe, and therefore tend to be white. He also pointed out that there are cultural factors at play as well, such as a lack of access to swimming pools to those of lower socioeconomic status.

It all comes down to body makeup, not race, Jones and Bejan said.

“Blacks tend to have longer limbs with smaller circumferences, meaning that their centers of gravity are higher compared to whites of the same height,” Bejan said. “Asians and whites tend to have longer torsos, so their centers of gravity are lower.”

Bejan and Jones cite past studies of the human body which found that on average, the center of gravity is about three percent higher in blacks than whites. Using this difference in body types, the researchers calculated that black sprinters are 1.5 percent faster than whites, while whites have the same advantage over blacks in the water. The difference might seem small, Bejan said, but not when considering that world records in sprinting and swimming are typically broken by fractions of seconds.

The center of gravity for an Asian is even more advantageous to swimming than for a white, but because they tend not to be as tall, they are not setting records, Bejan said.

“Locomotion is essentially a continual process of falling forward,” Bejan said. “Body mass falls forward, then rises again. Mass that falls from a higher altitude falls faster. In running, the altitude is set by the location of the center of gravity. For the fastest swimmers, longer torsos allow the body to fall forward farther, riding the larger and faster wave.”

The researchers said this evolution of body types and increased speeds can be predicted by the constructal theory, a theory of natural design developed by Bejan that explains such diverse phenomena as river basin formation and basis of animal locomotion.

Jones said that the differences in body densities between blacks and whites are well-documented, which helps explain other health differences, such as the observation that black women have a lower incidence of osteoporosis than white women because of the increased density of their bones.

Jones notes that cultural issues can play a role in which form of athletic competition someone chooses, and therefore might excel in.

“When I grew up in South Carolina, we were discouraged from swimming,” said Jones, who is black. “There wasn’t nearly as much encouragement for us as young people to swim as there was for playing football or basketball. With the right encouragement, this doesn’t always have to be the case - just look at the Williams sisters in tennis or Tiger Woods in golf.”

This analysis was supported by the National Science Foundation. [/quote]

er, I’d accept your premise if Asians only made up 12% of Taiwan’s population. Asians make up 99.8% of Taiwan.
It’s no wonder most people who play bastketball here are Asian. Poor argument.
What would happen if 1 million African Americans suddenly immigrated to Taiwan? lol

African Americans are roughly 12% of the population of the United States and yet make up a staggering 80% of the NBA.

Australia is 92% European so it’s no wonder they make up 98% of the AFL your argument fails (again). :loco: :loco:
Although there is a large number of Aboriginal players and they are only 2.5 % of the population (yes i know they are not African)

The number of African American players in the NFL is 70%. In fact there is a growing number who were born in Africa:
Tamba Hali - Kansas City - Liberia
Ashton Youboty- Buffalo - Liberia
Mansfield Wrotto - Buffalo - Liberia
Brian Orakpo - Redskins - Nigeria
Charlie Peprah - Packers - Ghana
Asante Samuel - Eagles - Ghana.
Kwaku Danso - Cleveland Browns - Ghana
Ebenezer Ekuban - Former Cowboys, Browns, and Broncos - born in Accra, Ghana
Jon Asamoah - Kansas City Chiefs - Ghana
*This is only 1/5 of the complete list

Your weak argument fails again.

[quote=“some dreary journal article”]It all comes down to body makeup, not race, Jones and Bejan said.

“Blacks tend to have longer limbs with smaller circumferences, meaning that their centers of gravity are higher compared to whites of the same height,” Bejan said. “Asians and whites tend to have longer torsos, so their centers of gravity are lower.”[/quote]

Now HTF is that NOT about race? Race IS all about genetics and therefore body makeup. The preponderance of Europeans in swimming may well have more to do with cultural attitudes and availability of pools, etc, but to claim that Africans running well is a feature of body shape as determined by genes but NOT about race is pure political correctness running rampant, also known as intellectual blindness, and a lack of all common sense.

Who is this Bejan prat anyway? I bet he’s Hungarian.

See, that’s not racist at all. That’s cultural!

Now HTF is that NOT about race? Race IS all about genetics and therefore body makeup.[/quote]

I think what he means is that simply being ethnically white doesn’t make you a good swimmer, and simply being ethnically black doesn’t make you a good runner. Rather, he’s saying that being ethnically white means you have a greater likelihood of owning a gene set which is advantageous for swimming, being ethnically black means you have a greater likelihood of owning a gene set which is advantageous for sprinting. If you happen to be an ethnically white man with a higher center of gravity you may have the same advantage as an ethnically black sprinter, and if you happen to be an ethnically black man with a lower center of gravity you may have the same advantage as an ethnically white swimmer. Thus it’s your body type that’s making the difference, not your ethnicity (why do they keep using that stupidly meaningless word ‘race’?).

Of course those of us who know there are no physical differences between the members of any ethnic group, and that no ethnic group has a greater likelihood of having a gene set which is more advantageous for anything than any other gene set, will rightly reject this as the demon-inspired ravings of evilutionists. Remember, evilutionists think that dark skin developed as a useful adaptation to the environment, whereas we all know that it’s a result of God’s curse on the Canaanites, which also explains why the descendants of the Canaanites aren’t black.

YES.

Check the finalists for the 100M in every Olympics or WC since 1984.

End Thread.

Olympic 100M finals, can you spot a trend?

2008

2004

2000

1996 (don’t worry Donovan wins)

Ultimate test of raw speed and strength.

Thread Over!

Yeah! I see it!

In every race over the years, the black guy always comes first!

Yeah! I see it!

In every race over the years, the black guy always comes first![/quote]

and 2nd, and 3rd, and 4th, and 5th, and 6th, and 7th, and 8th etc…

Over at the pool it was a different story…

[quote=“Deuce Dropper”]YES.

Check the finalists for the 100M in every Olympics or WC since 1984.

End Thread.[/quote]
So they’re faster runners? How about skiing? Swimming? Etc. etc. Physically superior? Let’s see 'em enduring months in the Arctic… :unamused:

[quote=“sandman”][quote=“Deuce Dropper”]YES.

Check the finalists for the 100M in every Olympics or WC since 1984.

End Thread.[/quote]
So they’re faster runners? How about skiing? Swimming? Etc. etc. Physically superior? Let’s see 'em enduring months in the Arctic… :unamused:[/quote]

Swimming and skiing are learned activities, not examples of raw power and strength.

They could also be considered activities of privileged classes, in which lower income brackets and poor countries do not participate. And who the hell in Africa skis?

You were swimming before you were born.

End of thread.

[quote=“Deuce Dropper”][quote=“sandman”][quote=“Deuce Dropper”]YES.

Check the finalists for the 100M in every Olympics or WC since 1984.

End Thread.[/quote]
So they’re faster runners? How about skiing? Swimming? Etc. etc. Physically superior? Let’s see 'em enduring months in the Arctic… :unamused:[/quote]

Swimming and skiing are learned activities, not examples of raw power and strength[/quote]

Yes and I’m sure the olympic sprinters you cite were just rounded up from their tribes on the African Savanah and dumped on the track to strut their stuff? Have you seen an Olympic swimmers? Phhfffpt weaklings no raw power or strength involved there! :unamused:

[quote=“Deuce Dropper”][quote=“sandman”][quote=“Deuce Dropper”]YES.

Check the finalists for the 100M in every Olympics or WC since 1984.

End Thread.[/quote]
So they’re faster runners? How about skiing? Swimming? Etc. etc. Physically superior? Let’s see 'em enduring months in the Arctic… :unamused:[/quote]

Swimming and skiing are learned activities, not examples of raw power and strength.

They could also be considered activities of privileged classes, in which lower income brackets and poor countries do not participate. And who the hell in Africa skis?[/quote]
Power lifting, the world’s strongest man and weight lifiting are dominated by “whites” and Eurasians. Eurasians are well noted as being good at raw power events especially anything to do with weights.
I am not sure what the issue is in this thread as certain population groups that evolved in different environments will have difference genetic PREDISPOSITIONS for different activities.

[quote=“fenlander”]
I am not sure what the issue is in this thread as certain population groups that evolved in different environments will have difference genetic PREDISPOSITIONS for different activities.[/quote]

Does your theory encompass intelligence as well?

[quote=“Gman”][quote=“Deuce Dropper”][quote=“sandman”][quote=“Deuce Dropper”]YES.

Check the finalists for the 100M in every Olympics or WC since 1984.

End Thread.[/quote]
So they’re faster runners? How about skiing? Swimming? Etc. etc. Physically superior? Let’s see 'em enduring months in the Arctic… :unamused:[/quote]

Swimming and skiing are learned activities, not examples of raw power and strength[/quote]

Yes and I’m sure the olympic sprinters you cite were just rounded up from their tribes on the African Savanah and dumped on the track to strut their stuff? Have you seen an Olympic swimmers? Phhfffpt weaklings no raw power or strength involved there! :unamused:[/quote]

just like every Caucasian comes from the foothills of the Caucus Mountains?

You are missing the point, swimming is something you are taught to do, you need a pool, not everyone has access to a pool.

Sprinting is the best example of raw, unfettered speed and strength their is.

[quote=“Deuce Dropper”]

Sprinting is the best example of raw, unfettered speed and strength their is.[/quote]
You fail to take proximity to facilities, unfettered training regimens and bourgeois privilege into account, young Deuce. Distance running is the true test. Altitudinal advantages notwithstanding.