Bad News in Iraq: Is it News?

The daily bombings and discoveries of executed torture victims doesn’t seem to be news any more. A dozen here, three dozen there. It’s faded into the background.

Well, this time it’s 100+ killed, and twice that injured.
Does it count as news?

I notice the “Truth about the Good News in Iraq” posts have come to an end.
How long before the “we’ve got to stay so that things don’t get worse” posts come to an end?
Is it when 100+ daily victims in individual attacks becomes the norm?
When we start hitting the thousands?

Given the costs, was it really worth while removing that sad sack of shit who spent his days penning pathetic plays about the Jews while the rest of the country sleepily stumbled along as best it could?

[quote=“BBC: Over 100 killed in blast”]Iraq market truck bomb kills 105

A deadly truck bombing in a busy market in northern Iraq has killed 105 people and injured 240
, police say.

The morning blast destroyed the market in the small town of Amirli, south of Kirkuk, killing many people instantly and trapping dozens among the rubble.[/quote]

I am sure that it very gratifying to the Iraqis that someone like Jaboney now views their misery and the number of deaths there “with concern.” One wonders where the voices of people like Jaboney were when far greater death tolls and torture were occuring under Saddam. Also, is someone like Jaboney blaming the US for the death tolls? or should they be placed squarely on the actions of terrorists and insurgents and thugs? Now, would the correct solution in this instance be to leave to let the terrorists, insurgents and thugs have free rein? If so, can someone like Jaboney explain how this would create more stability and result in fewer deaths? Sorry, just a bit confused, but I do hope that someone like Jaboney can come forward to explain these matters to me. I just don’t get it but then someone like me probably wouldn’t.

I don’t know where to find someone like Jaboney. Perhaps if someone, like fred, could point the way to someone like Jaboney, we might be able to learn what someone like Jaboney would say. As it is, Jaboney is here, but he is Jaboney, not like Jaboney.

Maybe someone like Jaboney will step forward. If not, will someone, like fred, who values education and decries the current state of education, step forward and attempt to understand the position 'though it is not his own? Given that solicitation and consideration of contrary perspectives is so important in the life of the mind – after reading, writing, and punctuation – I’m sure that it won’t be too difficult for him, or someone like him, to figure out.

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I sense that someone like Jaboney may be having some identity issues. If someone like Jaboney would like to have a number where someone like he may talk to a professional about the problems someone like he is having… I am sure that someone like he will be able to find it in the Yellow Pages…

I think someone like fred is right. Not fred, mind you, but someone like him.
If someone like Jaboney is having the same issues as Jaboney, he might try calling 1-800-GOT-GIGGLES. That, or just avoid the unvetted talking points. :wink:

I think that you or someone like you may be right about the issues that some people like we were discussing. I am sure that Bob or someone like he would also find a suject something like this one of great interest to someone like him.

Ah Bob. I haven’t seen much from him since the last time he hung a “Mission Accomplished” banner over one of your threads.

Miss them do you? How nice.

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Daily news about what is really happening on the rebuilding of Iraq can be found here:
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here:
defendamerica.mil/iraq/rebuilding.html

And here, among other places:
grd.usace.army.mil/news/photos/snapshots.asp

Some might have trouble accessing the .mil websites. They are frequently blocked to overseas ISP users. I get them about 50% of the time.

Enjoy…or may you have an act somewhat like enjoyment.

I believe that Jaboney is making a point more along the lines of Georg Simmel’s “blase attitude” from “The Metropolis and Mental Life”.

The first time we see a homeless person in the city we are naturally shocked. A few weeks of walking the streets and seeing a lot, we develop a don’t care attitude. I believe this is the same with regard to the problems of the reporting in Iraq.

Anyone for a anti-press march? The news lied, people died… that kind of thing? Didn’t think so…

[quote]Phony atrocity supports false notion that violence in Iraq is chiefly sectarian

By Jack Kelly

This tale of two atrocities — one that happened and one that didn’t — suggests why so many Americans “know” so much about the war in Iraq that isn’t so. Twenty beheaded bodies were discovered on the banks of the Tigris river near the city of Salman Pak, Sinan Salaheddin of the Associated Press reported June 28. "The bodies, all men aged 20 to 40, had their hands and legs bound, and some of the heads were found next to the bodies, " the AP said. “The victims’ identities were unknown, but they were found in an area where Shiite travelers have been kidnapped and killed in the past.” The AP attributed the story to two anonymous Iraqi police officers, one in Baghdad and one in Kut. The story also was reported by the British news service Reuters.
It now appears that the story was completely false and fabricated by unknown sources,” said a spokesman for Multi-National Force Iraq June 30. Both the AP and Reuters have issued retractions.

Michael Yon, a former Green Beret, is a freelance journalist embedded with U.S. troops in the offensive against al Qaida in Diyala province northeast of Baghdad. On June 29 he accompanied U.S. and Iraqi troops on a sweep through the village of al Hamira. The soldiers cleared the village after a brief firefight, but found no civilians in it. They did pass two donkeys which had been shot in the neck. A “terrible stench” drew the soldiers to a nearby palm grove. In the grove were mass graves containing the remains of 14 men, women and children. The children had been beheaded.
Mr. Yon was the only journalist to report the massacre, though al Hamira is just 3.5 miles away from Forward Operating Base Warhorse, where “mainstream” journalists covering Arrowhead Ripper are located. “For those publications who actually had people embedded in Baqubah when the story first broke and still failed to cover it, their malaise is inexplicable,” Mr. Yon said. “I do not know why all failed to report the murders and booby trapped village.” It certainly isn’t because the media are squeamish about reporting atrocities, as the eagerness to report the beheadings that didn’t happen as Salman Pak indicates. The phony atrocity supports the false notion that the violence in Iraq is chiefly sectarian. The real atrocity reveals al Qaida’s savagery. Could this be why the phony atrocity was reported and the real one was not?

Marine reservist Matt Sanchez is a freelance journalist embedded with U.S. troops in Iraq. He thinks most mainstream media reporting from Iraq is "completely wrong." It is wrong, Mr. Sanchez said in an article in National Review Online Thursday, because many news organizations rely on dubious sources, and rarely suffer consequences for mistakes, however egregious. “Unlike any other player on the board, the press has no oversight, no mandate, few penalties, and even fewer consequences,” Mr. Sanchez said. “Because there are not enough reporters on the ground, too many bureaus have outsourced both their reporting and standards to third party stringers whose spectacular videos of explosions and inflated body counts have shown up on both jihadist recruiting sites and American television screens, simultaneously.” The mere existence of spectacular pictures of explosions should be a warning sign, Mr. Sanchez said.

“On my trip north, our convoy was hit by an IED,” he recalled. “An explosion is a split-second flash, something you could miss if you blink. Explosions are tricky to catch on film. You’d have to point at the right place at the right moment, and even then you’d need luck. Unless, of course, you know when, where and how the bomb is about to go off.” It isn’t quite true that the press has no watchdogs. The false Salman Pak massacre was exposed because Web logger Bob Owens (Confederate Yankee) noticed the police officers the AP said were its sources were nowhere near the scene, and asked the U.S. military to check. In a letter Thursday to AP’s director of media relations, Mr. Owens noted that Mr. Yon had offered his photographs and account of the massacre at al Hamira free of charge, but the AP turned him down. “I would like for the Associated Press to explain why it is willing to run thinly and falsely sourced insurgent propaganda as unquestioned fact without any independent verification, but refuses to publish a freely offered account by a noted combat correspondent that some consider his generation’s Ernie Pyle,” Mr. Owens said. He’s not alone. [/quote]

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Oh, so all this pivots on the word of a proven publicity and actual whore like Matt “dirty” Sanchez?

Excellent!

For the record I find his self-aggrandising a whole lot more distasteful and far less honest than his services as “an excellent top for US$200 an hour in/US$250 out call.”

HG

[quote=“Huang Guang Chen”]Oh, so all this pivots on the word of a proven publicity and actual whore like Matt “dirty” Sanchez?
Excellent!
For the record I find his self-aggrandising a whole lot more distasteful and far less honest than his services as “an excellent top for US$200 an hour in/US$250 out call.”
HG[/quote]
Wrong thread Homer - Mr. Sanchezes’ past has already been dealt with on the other thread. Get over it over there…:smiley:

Fred brought Pierre La Planque, aka “a U.S. serviceman in Iraq”, up first in this thread.

So where’s Fox News in all this? Aren’t they supposed to be guarding the information hen house? Surely they’re not part of the news media conspiracy to sell out to al Qaeda.

How come they’re not telling the truth about how good things really are in Iraq? . . . or how bad things really aren’t? . . . or is it how bad things really are . . . but in a different ‘bad’ way than the pro-al Qaeda news media is saying it is?

I’m not sure if I’m even putting that right. It’s hard to keep these things straight any more because “the truth” keeps changing faster than I can type.

Not so fast, cowboy, check back to Fred’s last post. This Janus faced man whore’s shock-horror finding that the situation is so dire (subtext) that news agencies can’t get journalists in to cover the war unless they are embedded with the US army, or roll the dice with local stringers, is being trotted out all over again.

HG

What are you talking about HCG? WHAT? ABOUT WHAT? huh?

Sorry Fred, I was referring to Sanchez in that last post, not you, but I can understand the confuion! :laughing:

For more.

[quote]Sanchez investigation wraps up today
The Corps on Friday was slated to wrap up an investigation into allegations that a corporal in the Individual Ready Reserve who appeared in gay porn films before enlisting solicited more than $12,000 from private organizations by asking them to fund a deployment to Iraq he never made, according to e-mails from the investigating officer forwarded to Marine Corps Times.

Reserve Col. Charles Jones, a staff judge advocate called to Marine Corps Mobilization Command in Kansas City, Mo., on temporary orders that expire Saturday, informed Reserve Cpl. Matt Sanchez of the allegations against him in a March 22 e-mail that advised Sanchez of his rights.

Jones wrote that Sanchez’s participation in porn films was part of the investigation, but that two of the three allegations against him involved lying “to various people, including but not limited to, representatives of the New York City United War Veterans Council and U-Haul Corporation” about deploying to Iraq at the commandant’s request.[/quote]

Note that it’s not his homosexuality on question here, indeed it is a very forward and positive step by the marines, but rather his grubby history of serving the highest bidder.

HG

Well, that does not change the fact that the AP and Reuters retracted their stories nor does it make irrelevant Yon’s comments. Anyway, I for one am thrilled that Sanchez is “on top” of things and that he is getting paid $200 a pop for giving the Democrats what they want. Since Bush is doing that for the whole country but on a much higher pay scale, I can hardly imagine why you or any others would want to complain, eh? What’s that you say? HUH? WHAT?

“The mere existence of spectacular pictures of explosions should be a warning sign,” Mr. Sanchez said.

A lot of people might take that observation the wrong way.

I wasn’t aware that was what “an excellent top” did for 200/250 bucks in or out call, but always willing to defer to the voice of experience.

As for “they’re cooking babies agin” Yon, perhaps you could point out how my neat summary failed to gather him in the net?

I repeat:

Buly oh for the surge, eh what?

HG

[quote]“The mere existence of spectacular pictures of explosions should be a warning sign,” Mr. Sanchez said.

A lot of people might take that observation the wrong way.[/quote]

haha. The earth moved. Was it good for you too? haha Every day is like the Fourth of July… Why would that be bad?