Bisexual Chic

Well one of my Taiwanese roomies, we will call her Sarah, dated a girl in college. I asked her if she was a lesbian or bi-sexual and she got angry. I think she was experimenting, but it seemed like she was just trying to be cool. I don’t know I’d call a spade a spade.

kissing! Who invented this passionate game anyway? The Greeks? When do you think humans first kissed? Certainly Neanderthals didn’t kiss, as we know kisses today, did they? Apes and Monkeys don’t kiss. So when did all this lip wrestling begin? Any data anywhere, Brian?

I don’t mean to gross you out, but one theory - and this is a serious theory by anthropologists - is that kissing descends from the bird-like practice of the mother clasping her mouth upon her baby’s mouth and regurgitating food. Folks didn’t have that mushy supermarket babyfood back in the old days… Though no longer widely practiced (outside of some primitive societies), the pleasant memory of that motherly love became an ingrained habit in our psyche. Note how close the act of sharing tongues in a kiss is similar to the act you’d do if you slipped your lover a dollop of chocolate ice-cream off of your tongue and down her throat.

[quote=“meiguolangren”]I do know of at least one group of university students (not my students) doing a communication project in Taipei who decided to test what sort of reactions they would get from onlookers if a couple girls began kissing in public. They set up a hidden camera at various locations in Taipei (NTU campus, Warner Village, Living Mall, etc.) and had different girls begin kissing one another to videotape and test for reactions. While they did get stares from a few folks, for the most part reactions were subdued. My understanding is that the girls were disappointed as they had hoped to get bigger “reactions” from people.
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Girl-girl kissing? Nah, old news… check out my junior high school graduation picture… :wink:

Seriously, people have always been doing things to try to shock others. It’s just that nowadays people have to go farther and farther. If we don’t pay too much attention to these acts (like the onlookers the students from meiguolangren’s school were trying to shock), I’m sure they’ll scratch their heads and then do something else to catch our attention, and heck knows what’s next.

Madonna? Your junior high school? Girls have been kissing in the media for longer than that (except that in the past it was probably performed less frequently as a publicity stunt).

Hey Daniel,

Just curious… this photo was obviously staged. Did the teacher know about it before it was shot? Did she have any comments to the students? When was this taken? And how exactly did they come up with the idea to do this? Was that in Taiwan?

Just wait until those girls get into college… :wink:

I know quite a few bisexual Taiwanese girls through my boyfriend. I’m not sure whether they really are or not (although, personally I suspect that they just think it’s cool … I’ve never seen them actually kiss a girl or anything). It’s funny, though, that they have so many gay guy friends (they say 80% of their friends are gay guys), yet they get grossed out and 尷尬 when my boyfriend and I play tonsil hockey on their living room floor. :?

I guess younger people tend to do what’s cool. It’s now cool to be bi-sexual so you see alot of it. But if you pressed the issue they would say they are straight.

[quote=“LittleBuddhaTW”]… yet they get grossed out and

[quote=“Omniloquacious”][quote=“LittleBuddhaTW”]… yet they get grossed out and

Sounds like your bisexual galfriends need to install a water hose in their living rooms or have a big ol’ bucket of ice water handy for when you and your boyfriend visit.

Apes kiss. In fact, Bonobos, the more interesting Chimpanzee cousin, will French kiss among many other rather interesting sexual activities (penis fencing is one for the record books). home.tiac.net/~cri/1998/bonobo.html

A World of Kissing clublez.com/movies/a_world_of_girls_kissing/ - note the absence of Taiwan. Should we protest?

“Kissing Jessica Stein” mega review with footnotes. friesian.com/jessica.htm

Here’s an interesting essay “Kissing Jessica Saunders” kissing.com/htfkv.html - talk about a DVD that shouldn’t be needed, it isn’t rocket science but evidently there’s a big market out there of crappy kissers who need to learn a trick or two - me, I just hypnotize my partner into melting when I kiss her. :slight_smile: I suppose one could also go out and find the nearest cooperative Bonobo as well.

Fledgling girl kissers public.fotki.com/thoseazngirls/t … 2_img.html - note the protective barrier

Yes this was in Taiwan and was taken recently, but I have no idea which school these kids are from and why they did this, but probably as a prank… not sure what the teacher said to the students or whether she even knew but I sure would like to hear what the principal said to the teacher after he/she saw this picture flying around on the internet.

Two girls kissing turn lots of men on?? why is that??!!
You don’t see us getting turn on by 2 men kissing ??!! ( I don’t care either way, but it doesn’t turn me on, sexually) :offtopic:

Daniel, you say the girls probably did it “as a prank.” Maybe. Maybe they never did or will roll around naked with other girls in the future. But I don’t think it can be dismissed so lightly. Teenagers hormones tend to be high anyway, and many kids in Taiwan are probably sexually repressed, but I think for girls to kiss as in that photo, even if it was supposedly in jest, I think there must be some mutual feeling of sexual (or sensual) excitement between the two girls. They might deny it, but that’s my belief.

Miaka, why do two girls kissing turn on guys? I guess if the thought of one soft sensual set of lips, accompanied by neck, shoulders, breasts, stomach, hips, thighs and all the rest, in an aroused state is exciting, two sets is twice as exciting, particularly when they’re entwined together. Of course for most guys its just a fantasy-- they don’t actually see that very often (except maybe in movies) and maybe they imagine themselves sandwiched in the middle of the action. Just an opinion.

If I snogged Rascal or Okami, it wouldn’t turn the girlies on ? :really:

Gee . . . I wonder. trasnochando.com/cosas/los_a … AN-032.jpg

Kinsey, Masters & Johnson, and Hite studies on human sexuality all found female-to-female sexual activity to be one of the top ten fantasies for men and women while male-to-male sex has never been a top fantasy for either gender. Female-to-female sexual experimentation experiences are much more common than male-to-male experimentation as well. Male social bonding is less likely to become physically intimate in that respect.

Of course, just because it is very common among others, doesn’t mean you have to have the fantasy. It’s perfectly normal not to be turned on by women kissing . . . just as it’s not abnormal to be turned on by a couple hot babes locking lips.

Hmmm. Sandwich . . . sandwiches . . . hungry. :slight_smile: I never got the lesbian fantasy myself . . . anyone familiar with Howard Stern knows how much he goes off on lesbians, lesbians, lesbians . . . two lesbians kissing just doesn’t do it for me . . . wtih lesbians you have no hope, dream, or possibility of joining them, not even in fantasy . . . however, show me a couple hot bisexual babes goin’ at it and I’m all over it. :wink: Fantasy of access and all that.

However, what may in fact be a common fantasy may not be a common practice . . . and, sometimes common practice is still publicly viewed as abnormal (for instance, the number of folks who have oral sex is very high but a lot of folks still think of it as dirty or distateful).

For that age group, there would likely be repercussions of some sort, especially if the parents object to the image. For college kids to post these sort of images trasnochando.com/cosas/los_a … AN-111.jpg one can at least say they’re adults and are responsible for their own actions (although that’s not always the perception in Taiwan as universities still monitor some behaviors that are left to student discretion overseas - and even in the West, a nineteen-year-old isn’t nearly as clear on things and choices as someone a few years older which is why folks like Asia Carrerra advise young people not to start doing anything in adult entertainment until they are twenty-five and have really thought about the consequences to the rest of their lives - of course, the people making adult entertainment don’t want that advice generally circulated) . . . but junior high school or high school kids are less responsible and need to be guided a bit more. Some folks might be shocked that they would even be aware of sexuality, but they are human and Taiwan does have the highest teenage pregnancy rate in Asia . . . so some instruction in responsiblity might be in order (instead of skipping the two sex chapters in their health class - one student told me his teacher stapled those pages together in everyone’s text book while another girl said her teacher actually removed the pages, ripping them out, from everyone’s book).

The likelihood of denial is probably high - especially for an age group like that . . . but that looks like a pretty real kiss - not one of those quickie pecks. The students may have also been inspired less by “bisexual chic” but by images of young lesbians as in Yee Chih-Yen’s BLUE GATE CROSSING (Lanse Da Men) outuk.com/cgi-bin/llgff/film … k_ref=1023 which was quite the big rage last year (young lesbian love in a high school - one of those odd tender sweet girl loves girl who loves boy who loves girl triangle films. Last year, in one of my courses at the university, we did a long unit on perceptions of homosexuality and education and one of the girls brought in the movie for discussion. Because of student interest, the unit lasted much longer than originally planned.

Why don’t you post some pictures and find out? :laughing:

Hmmm. Anyone else think that Forumosa perhaps needs an Adult Topics section in the forum? Someplace where the :nsfw2: icon is just plain assumed?

Two girls and me is a dream that will never happen. One girl and me is more manageable. Two would cause a sensory overload…:slight_smile:

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It would piss your wife off though. :wink:

I like chick better. Bisexual chick.