Blacklist of schools


#221

Kiao biao school in Xindian.

  1. Withholding last months salary after I gave two months notice I was leaving !
  2. Paying a certified Teacher 40,000 and refusing to give a raise. Well working 8am-5pm
  3. Basic cuntery everyday making for a terrible work environment.

You have been warned make your own decisions

I place a hex on thee!!!


#222

Isn’t that the huge, beautiful school all the way on the top of the mountain? It’s for rich kids, right? It’s run by an Arschloch.


#223

You can go work there then


#224

I don’t think so. It’s run by an Arschloch…an asshole.


#225

Here’s a story of what happened to me yesterday, after being invited for an interview from ELTS 英美語言 (elts.com.tw/) on Buxiban Street near Taipei Main Station.

I found the job via 104.com.tw, and my résumé clearly states that I have approximately three years of experience teaching adults conversational English, and four years experience teaching kindergarten and buxiban.

The girl who arranged my interview was very pleasant, as were the employees at the front desk when I got there. I then waited 15 minutes past the scheduled interview time, and finally the girl who arranged my interview came down from upstairs and apologized, because the people downstairs had not told her that I was waiting. That was okay, nothing too serious.

She then gave me a multiple-choice questionnaire regarding my work habits. Five questions. This was approximately how the five questions were phrased, and I kid you not, nor do I exaggerate:

  1. If you did not agree with how much the school was willing to pay you, would you:
    a) Accept it and know that this is the school’s policy.
    b) Argue with the school and demand that your pay be raised.

  2. If you caught a cold one day, what would you do?
    a) Come in and teach anyway, because the school and the students are important.
    b) Call in sick, not caring about anyone else, nor caring about your responsibilities.

  3. If you got into a car accident, how would you handle it?
    a) Inform the school as soon as possible, show the medical proof to the school, and take responsibility by making up the classes at a later date.
    b) Not tell the school at all, and just ignore your responsibility to the school.

I forget what the other two questions were, but they were along the same lines. I ask you, who would choose answers “b”?

This should’ve been a big clue to hurry up and get out of there… but, I just continued to prepare for the 15-minute teaching demo.

Anyway, so I prepared for about 15 minutes, and then told the first girl I was ready. So, she sends me back into the “employee training room” they had me sitting in, and then in comes a lady. The lady looks at my résumé and asks my name (my résumé has my name on it in big, bold lettering), and I tell her it’s Shawn. Then, she looks over it and says I have no experience, and I tell her that I do, just look at the résumé! She says I have no experience teaching IELTS, TOEFL, GMAT, etc., so I tell her that it’s true, I don’t, but that wouldn’t be a problem, I could learn easily. She replies, “This is a professional school. We teach these tests.”

Pfft… “professional,” eh? Teaching people how to pass a test is one type of learning, true, but it’s not the best type. Furthermore, their sign outside in Chinese says that they also teach conversational English.

Anyway, so I stand up to start my demo and I ask her politely (even though she’s been really gruff up to this point), “What’s your name?”

She replies with, “Aleck-u-su” or something… and then barks, “What does it matter? Start your demo!”

I had it, then and there. So, I replied that I didn’t want to work there and just walked out.

Well, that’s my story! Draw what conclusions you will :slight_smile:


#226

Oh, here is their school on Google Maps: g.co/maps/e9xm


#227

You handled it quite well. I probably would have told her to go ?@!# herself.


#228

Unfortunately, that’s exactly what I would have done as well. It’s not very professional, but I would’ve had a good laugh about it later. Who would want to work for that dragon lady?


#229

If you get a good laugh outta it then it is definitely worth it. Idiots.


#230

Hahaha… afterward, I was thinking, “Damn! I should’ve told her where to shove it!!!”

But then, my wife was saying that cussing someone out makes them think that they were right to act like a b!tch… so, I should’ve calmly explained that she was a b!tch, without actually using the word itself.

At the same time, I’ve heard many people say that when you voice your complaints about a particular person or organization, it actually helps them. Better to say nothing and not help them at all.

Lastly, I would like to say that I was just so shocked by her behaviour that the shock took control and there was no room left for anger. LOL.


#231

[quote=“shawn_c”]Anyway, so I stand up to start my demo and I ask her politely (even though she’s been really gruff up to this point), “What’s your name?”

She replies with, “Aleck-u-su” or something… and then barks, “What does it matter? Start your demo!”

I had it, then and there. So, I replied that I didn’t want to work there and just walked out.

Well, that’s my story! Draw what conclusions you will :slight_smile:[/quote]
:bravo: Well done, mate. You handled it much better than I would have. Unfortunately, a lot of these Laobans seem to think more and more that as there is a dearth of teachers we can now be treated like House Slaves. F*ck them. You did the right thing. :thumbsup:


#232

Or you could have gone on to give a demo about professional ethics and manners in the workplace (with an example of how not to tell a bitch to go fuck herself).


#233

Yes, you did the right thing. Get the fuck out. These schools are a dime a dozen around Taipei Main Station. You walk in and see about 6 girls behind computers checking Fabook all day, pretending to look busy, no teachers in sight…they are shop fronts for slick marketing, selling the lie that you can pass a test after 3 weeks prep. Naive students buy into their bullshit. I’ve worked in similar schools, and even though their pay was half decent, working conditions sucked!


#234

i have never before taught ESL in taiwan. just wondering about some schools. HESS is the largest buxiban on the island. i have heard that they would be place to teach only as last resort… is that about correct? giraffe language school… can anyone give first hand experience? same with abraham academy.


#235

[quote]Anyway, so I stand up to start my demo and I ask her politely (even though she’s been really gruff up to this point), “What’s your name?”

She replies with, “Aleck-u-su” or something… and then barks, “What does it matter? Start your demo!”

I had it, then and there. So, I replied that I didn’t want to work there and just walked out.

Well, that’s my story! Draw what conclusions you will [/quote]

You might want to amuse yourself with the thought that she probably considers herself a shrewd and clever businesswoman (no doubt it was she who designed the questionnaire questions too).


#236

After reading the questionnaire I would have written in my own answers.

  1. c) Argue with the school and demand my pay be lowered (as punishment for my greediness).
  2. c) Impossible, I am a robot.
  3. c) Miss no time, walk into class carrying my own detached arm, ask for forgiveness regarding my disheveled appearance.

#237

:fume:

Like to share an experience that just happened to me within the last week.

I’d been teaching IELTS classes at DELL adults’ cram school on Jhongshan Rd (sorry if it’s the wrong spelling) in Kaohsiung, for a year or so. I’d been told to expect a new class beginning Tuesday this week, running for the standard 12 week cycle. At the very last minute: late Monday night, I get a text telling me the class had been postponed, due to low numbers. I was bit miffed at the late call, but these things happen. I went to work there on Wednesday evening as usual, and in passing ask about the IELTS class start date, told to expect it to start “very soon”.

Later at home I checked my Facebook account and found a message from an IELTS student -from DELL- asking me why I quit teaching that class, and wishing me all the best, etc. Then, it dawns on me…Next, day I called them, and, politely at first, demand an explanation. First I got the standard b/s until finally I got an admission that “someone had lied” to me about the whole thing; not the person on the phone (name’s Mona), who had in fact, been the one who told me.

So that was the thanks I got for showing up 45 mins early for every class; doing placement interviews for free during my unpaid prep time, and staying behind after class to discuss the test with students. This is my warning to the unwary, and also to Mark, my replacement, whoever he may be.


#238

Like to share an experience that just happened to me within the last week.

I’d been teaching IELTS classes at DELL adults’ cram school on Zhongshan Rd (sorry if it’s the wrong spelling) in Kaohsiung, for a year or so. I’d been told to expect a new class beginning Tuesday this week, running for the standard 12 week cycle. At the very last minute: late Monday night, I get a text telling me the class had been postponed, due to low numbers. I was bit miffed at the late call, but these things happen. I went to work there on Wednesday evening as usual, and in passing ask about the IELTS class start date, told to expect it to start “very soon”.

Later at home I checked my Facebook account and found a message from an IELTS student -from DELL- asking me why I quit teaching that class, and wishing me all the best, etc. Then, it dawns on me…Next, day I called them, and, politely at first, demand an explanation. First I got the standard b/s until finally I got an admission that “someone had lied” to me about the whole thing; not the person on the phone (name’s Mona), who had in fact, been the one who told me.

So that was the thanks I got for showing up 45 mins early for every class; doing placement interviews for free during my unpaid prep time, and staying behind after class to discuss the test with students. This is my warning to the unwary, and also to Mark, my replacement, whoever he may be.[/quote]

Standard operating procedure.


#239

Interpol, I’m not clear on something, did you just lose the class or your job?


#240

[quote=“bigduke6”][quote=“Interpol”]:fume:

Like to share an experience that just happened to me within the last week.

I’d been teaching IELTS classes at DELL adults’ cram school on Zhongshan Rd (sorry if it’s the wrong spelling) in Kaohsiung, for a year or so. I’d been told to expect a new class beginning Tuesday this week, running for the standard 12 week cycle. At the very last minute: late Monday night, I get a text telling me the class had been postponed, due to low numbers. I was bit miffed at the late call, but these things happen. I went to work there on Wednesday evening as usual, and in passing ask about the IELTS class start date, told to expect it to start “very soon”.

Later at home I checked my Facebook account and found a message from an IELTS student -from DELL- asking me why I quit teaching that class, and wishing me all the best, etc. Then, it dawns on me…Next, day I called them, and, politely at first, demand an explanation. First I got the standard b/s until finally I got an admission that “someone had lied” to me about the whole thing; not the person on the phone (name’s Mona), who had in fact, been the one who told me.

So that was the thanks I got for showing up 45 mins early for every class; doing placement interviews for free during my unpaid prep time, and staying behind after class to discuss the test with students. This is my warning to the unwary, and also to Mark, my replacement, whoever he may be.[/quote]

Standard operating procedure.[/quote]
At DELL? I’ve been working at Wells English (威爾斯美語) for 4 years, and I’ve never been treated with anything but respect and courtesy. Almas did tell me about a friend of his that got shafted as a student at a branch up north, but I guess that has more to do with the branch manager than anything else. Not all schools operate on the “we don’t give a shit about you” method … :2cents: