The person sounds like a Taiwanese guy too
The 15 year old looks and sounds like a Taiwanese girl
Is she subject to question too ?
Yes. Transgender category or an âOpenâ category.
Definitely needed considering how a back of the pack male swimmer, decided to transition to female and absolutely crushed the true female competition.
Sucked as a male, crushed it as a âfemaleâ and still kept the twig and berries and flaunted it in the locker room.
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No. Not at all. None of the other boxers I highlighted are considered anything other than a female boxer. And all quite skilled.
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Was he banned from the olympics?
This has gotta be the most over the top story. Trans? Just sounds like a pervert to me.
Wants to beat women as a 6 foot man then share a locker room with them while getting his tackle out. Couldnât make this stuff up.
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Sheâs from Algeria, which is probably almost enough to settle that line of argument (not exactly lgbtq+ friendly).
Gotta tone down the rhetoric on the two IBA dqâd boxers, no matter your politics. First, these two arenât, afaik, a case like Fallon Fox; it seems most likely an intersex issue where even they didnât know until they were disqualified, in which case any decent person is going to feel for them. But we donât know what IBA (booted by the IOC for corruption btw. Imagine how bad you gotta be for that.) test they failed. Second, this wasnât exactly a brutal beating. Khelif isnât some sort of Mike Tyson destroying everyone; she has a good record, most by decisions (like most womenâs boxing matches), but has lost her share as well. This was a brief exchange, no blood, no broken nose (thatâs been confirmed), no ko, nothing crazy. If youâre a fight fan youâve seen much, much worse, including in xx-xx fights. So feel how you want about the politics and eligibility rules, but get a grip on what happened here. 
But regarding her opponents.saying she shouldnât box⊠this make you feel better? You changing your tune?
Carini apologized Friday for her treatment of Khelif. âIâm sorry for my opponent,â she told Italian outlet La Gazzetta dello Sport. âIf the IOC said she can fight, I respect that decision.â
âIt wasnât something I intended to do,â Carini said. âActually, I want to apologize to her and everyone else. I was angry because my Olympics had gone up in smoke,â she said.
It seems most likely her and the Taiwanese fighter were identified as females by doctors at birth, given what we know.
I donât believe anyone has confirmed this. And yes, it happens in boxing all the time. What, you think they were all born with fucked up noses?
Gender is binary. Except when itâs not. Iâm not sure thatâs a helpful way of looking at it. 
Anyway, anyone here actually watch the match? You know why she was hit so hard? Because she didnât have her freaking hand up! Super clean shot on a counter. Would likely be a knockout with man sized power. The Italian quit on the fight.
Iâve competed in boxing, BJJ, and judo as an adult. and wrestling when I was like 7.
Yet those punches didnât seem to do much damage relative to BIG punches weâve all seen. Iâm never going to talk smack about someone getting in the ring, but you know sometimes people are more game at times than other times, and sometimes people are already mentally checked out. I feel like she got clocked good (happens when you drop your left hand), and was kind of like fuck this. Her prerogative, as itâs a combat sport and your head has to be in the game. But nothing seems to suggest that the Algerian is a particularly fearful boxer.
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Lin Yuâting of Taiwan won her fight against Sitora Turdibekova of Uzbekistan by unanimous decision at the Paris Olympics on Friday
Iâm just not seeing a female here. Sorry.
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This is unknown. Her medical files and her chromosomal status are being kept private and confidential. Born female, raised female, id card female, passport female, identifies as female. But, if sheâs XY, then that would explain why she looks and sounds so manly.
It hasnât been proven or publicly revealed, but it is alleged that she has the male chromosome.
Also, she was stripped of a bronze medal that she won last year due to failing a gender eligibility test, which of course wasnât specified.
sorry, thatâs not any sort of standard.
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Genetic testing would be a good standard.
She tests XX, then sheâs female and a non-issue and free to compete against females.
If not, then sheâs other than standard female and strong consideration should be given as to whether itâs fair to have her compete against XX females.
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I totally get that.
Educated myself quite quickly on this whole affair since it rose to bigger prominence with these Olympics.
Even my kids now know what intersex is.
So, no one knows 100% if boxer Lin has penis or vagina, except parents and a few doctors and maybe Linâs coach(es). Only know has XY or at least high level of testosterone.
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Iâve read everything I can find on intersex and XX vs XY chromosomes and the current controversies surrounding these two Olympic boxers as well as competitive runner Caster Semenya from South Africa. Very interesting stuff.
As for what âplumbingâ Lin has down below, I would have to guess that sheâs got the female parts. It would be damned near impossible for her to be born in a Taiwan hospital and be born with a penis, but designated female on her birth certificate. Then, all the years of growing up through elementary, junior high, high school and it was kept a secret without anyone knowing? Nah⊠Iâll guess that sheâs got the XY chromosome which caused her to become manly at the time of puberty. She might have hidden testes within her body and be intersex. But thatâs really no oneâs business but her own.
She was most likely designated female at birth based on visual inspection by the delivering doctor, but had the intersex condition 5α-Reductase 2 deficiency (5-ARD) which only affects genetic males with XY chromosomes. Individuals with 5-ARD have normal male internal structures that are not fully masculinized during the development of the reproductive system in utero due to low levels of the hormone dihydrotestosterone (DHT). Because of this, the external genitalia appear female at birth.
She was probably born with a vagina and internal undescended testes, but without a uterus or fallopian tubes and doesnât have menstruation. If this is the case, then her internal testes would produce natural testosterone levels in the typical male range. Would this give her an unfair advantage over normal XX females? Probably. But, how much? And what are her testosterone levels?
Normal average measurements for testosterone:
Male: 300 to 1,000 nanograms per deciliter (ng/dL) or 10 to 35 nanomoles per liter (nmol/L)
Female: 15 to 70 ng/dL or 0.5 to 2.4 nmol/L.
So, if æéć©· has a male testosterone mid-level of 500 ng/dl and the other female boxers only had the maximum average of 70 ng/dl, she would clearly have an advantage over the others. If this is true, should she be permitted to box with females whose testosterone levels are as low as 15ng/dl to a high 70 ng/dl?
So, the only way I can see to level the playing field for female sports is to have genetic testing. That would solve it, I believe.
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Why? because of the hairline?
Muscles I guess. IDK what the fuck is wrong with people.
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But neither of these boxers are competing in a way that shows them as having any overt advantage. They arenât freaks in the ring pummeling opponents into submission. The Italian girl wasnât hurt, not one bit. The two Irish girls who have fought the Algerian are like, sheâs not scary in the least. Sheâs an average opponent. This entire thing was the Russians being dicks, JK Rowling being a kunt and the IOC refusing to take ownership of the situation. Let them fight and then after the Olympics go back and figure out how to test and how to adjudicate on this. Itâs literally a storm in a teacup that the wrong people with the wrong agendas have jumped on simply because theyâre toxic wankers.
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Looks like a woman to me. Her hairline is crazy tho. Possibly as a side effect of PEDs.
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Looks like a guy sounds like a guy
Itâs a Guy
Thatâd certainly be a straightforward standard.
So youâd be ok with trans men competing with women as long as they lowered their t enough?
Right.
Thatâs what they used to do. Then they were like fuck, this shit is complicated.
What do I know what those fucknuts femininity standards are?
Pretty much all female swimmers that compete in swim have big backs and shoulders. Hell, that shoulders up in the pool makes most people look like they have relatively decent shoulders .
Dude, you live in SF; you know thatâs not how it works, at all.
Jesus Tommy, make a fucking effort.
If you were to pick up a guy and go home with him and take off his trousers to find he had no penis, would you still go, nah fair enough, he looked like a guy and he sounded like a guy, so heâs still a guy even though he has no male genitalia?
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I think Tommy wouldnât pick up a person looking like a guy, but I digress.
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