And here you go, other female boxers saying he shouldnât be allowed to compete.
After the disqualification, Mexicoâs Brianda Tamara came forward with her own experience of fighting Khelif earlier in the tournament.
âWhen I fought with her I felt very out of my depth,â she wrote on X. 'Her blows hurt me a lot, I donât think I had ever felt like that in my 13 years as a boxer, nor in my sparring with men. Thank God that day I got out of the ring safely, and itâs good that they finally realized.â
Letting him compete with females is dangerous. Thatâs a fact. Youâve heard it straight from the horses mouth here.
They are just women who have a y chromosome, they have never been male, like people who are born with additional chromosomes xxy (Tom Cruise) or xyy they have been assigned that gender at birth, lived that gender, believe they are that gender, have the physical characteristic of that gender, havenât been physically or chemically changed. who are they fooling, they are defiantly not pretending to be something they are not.
I feel they are the ones trying to take advantage of the situation to ban some hard completion.
Source? Nobody yet has provided a source showing that he was born with female genatalia. You tried, and provided a source coming from his spokesperson, which is hardly unbiased.
Doesnât matter if he identified as a woman for so long. I could identify as a cat, doesnât mean I am one.
The fact is, I quoted a number of experts in the fieldâboth from boxing organisations like the IBA, former boxers and females who have competed against him. All who are saying he should not be competing with women.
Probably done via the advice and guidance of experts. The same as any major organisation. Such as football/soccer, you donât think the president of say, FIFA decides on a whim which decisions to make. They have panels of experts advising them.
If the IBA, a number of former boxers and his former opponents say he should not be competing with females that should be good enough for anybody.
Not anybody because there are political, religious and cultural reasons for such decisions, besides sporting. You keep calling her âheâ is probably an example. Iâm fine if you think they shouldnât be allowed, but respect them.
Iâm explained this before. Testosterone levels means shit. If it was all equal my chances to being Mr. Olympia is possible if I just take the most steroids.
Ever notice female bodybuilders never get a big as the men?
Menâs bodyâs are biologically different and have different androgen sensitivities, different bone structures, different hormones beyond testosterone and how it impacts the body.
Thereâs so many factors at play. Myostatin levels for example. Thereâs a reason why male animals including humans are larger muscularly.
Myostatin is the reason why a horse can get so muscular eating grass and thereâs a limit to how big we can get no matter how much hormones we use to stimulate growth.
Anyone who uses the testosterone argument is wrong and should educate themselves. Men are different then women beyond testosterone.
Whole-life development under high testosterone levels means something. Are you saying itâs irrelevant? I didnât say there couldnât be other factors related to having XY chromosomes.
It is a factor but the focus on testosterone because itâs the male sex hormone is misguided. Thereâs plenty of women walking around with higher testosterone than men due to hormone production issues in both men and women. This doesnât change that testosterone should not be used as a single gauge of when it becomes fair for a men to compete with a woman.
I havenât even gotten to the neurological differences. Spatial perception and awareness men score higher for example. Reaction times are different.
Testosterone is such an overrated factor when talking about if itâs fair for a man to compete with a woman.
We are also wrongly basing the idea bigger muscle = more strength and speed so if we somehow balance the testosterone and hormones that regulate muscle mass it can be equal.
It can not, not only is the above futile with some of the reasons I mentioned.
There is a link we are still trying to understand in the nervous system and muscles. If equal muscle mass means equal strength we would see similar power lifting records of men and women in the same weight class. We do not.
If you want to see how weird this link is. You can lift more if you drink a sugary soda and spit it out before you lift.
âThis is not a transgender issueâ: IOC addresses Olympic boxing controversy
Here have the IOC also
She is not trans she was always a woman.
Khelif was disqualified from the 2023 world championships after failing an unspecified gender eligibility test
She failed some unspecified test, that could have been her shoe size for all we know.
No-one is saying men should fight women, but as for competition there are a few sports where maybe they should it may even out the pay gaps.
To me this issue revolves around if someone has a natural genetic advantage, should they be banned just because they are good at something?
EDIT: just to add the below information as a lot is coming out at the moment.
It didnât seem to be an issue when they where loosing
Both boxers already competed in the 2020 Olympics in Tokyo, where they were eliminated in the quarterfinals and round of 16 of their respective weight classes.
Women typically have XX chromosome pairs, and men typically have XY pairs. Neither Khelif nor Lin have ever identified as men, as transgender, or as intersexâwhich refers to people with both male and female sex characteristics.
âThese athletes have competed many times before for many yearsâthey havenât just suddenly arrived.â (Adams, in another press conference on Thursday, also pushed back against the idea that testosterone testing would be a âpanaceaâ to such issues.)
The Mystery test
The IBA on Wednesday stated that this was not a testosterone test, but rather âa separate and recognized test, whereby the specifics remain confidential.
âThese two athletes were the victims of a sudden and arbitrary decision by the IBA. Towards the end of the IBA World Championships in 2023, they were suddenly disqualified without any due process,â the note read.
"The current aggression against these two athletes is based entirely on this arbitrary decision, which was taken without any proper procedureâespecially considering that these athletes had been competing in top-level competition for many years.
I tell you what, the Algerianâs next fight is gonna be a compelling watch. Her opponent Luca Hamori has already said bring it on, she has no issues whatsover and sheâs avoiding social media completely.