My point is brexit hasn’t happened yet.and the good Friday agreement is in operation, it really isn’t as straightforward as you say. Of course when brexiit actually happens they will have to make changes and things could move quickly because of escalation.
You seem to never have lived or traveled trough a prefreemovement Europe.
There are two sides controlling the borders. As you take control of your border Europe will and has to take control of theirs about 200 meters from where your checkpoints are.
If the EU let’s the UK get away with any “you can just trust us”, the single market could/would, and as we know people and opportunities, surely be undermined.
During the war in Yugoslavia they weren’t able to keep the borders free from military surplices. What makes you think goods won’t flow freely from one side to the other and than into the UK and the other way around.
Unacceptable for us as EU members. Out is Out.
If a hard Brexit is the only way to go and they do go forward with that. The only two feasible options I see to make that work, are 1. A hard border, or 2 unified Ireland. I think the latter is the better option, I think most people are leaning that way.
Am I being simple and missing something? Is there option 3? My understanding option 3 or 4 or 5, opens up a new can of worms even worse than 1 and 2. I mean, I can see an argument for NI staying in the EU, except, NI is not a nation and that train of thought seems incredibly convoluted.
And I guess you have never lived traveled though a hard border in NI during WWII, I was having that discussion with someone in my family less than an hour ago.
I think if UK is going the route of a hard Brexit, I could make a pretty good case they do indeed need a united Irish state.
I am sure Britain being close to Ireland is an excellent idea, I agree Brexit undermines that, how would you suggest Britain meets what Ireland needs, given Britain voted for Brexit?
It’s not a culture war it’s a class gap you have in the UK. Instead of a class war for some reason it was redirected, probably due to nationalism which equates the monarchy and the aristocratic institutions with being core British values .
Hat tipping to your betters is a thing, getting excited about the latest royal in a new designer dress to open a hospital ward . Income gap is massive there and the Eton and private school set took over everything , politics and finance. They invested all the cash down South (massive infrastructure projects like Crossrail, London Olympics, docklands , Heathrow, doing up the Royal palaces and all that…) and London is booming, also with all the dodgy money allowed to flow into the property market there . The North is the opposite . Most of the cities there look run down. They don’t seem to have had any decent investment in many many decades. All the angst and kickback is now being redirected against immigrants and the EU, rather than the posh set who run and own much of the country still. You have vast estates held by just a few aristocratic families
It’s an English thing in particular, Scotland and N Ireland voted to stay in the EU.
In the end though people who vote themselves out of their own jobs with very little hope of getting another one…What can you say.
“Upon his father’s death, in August 2016, as well as the peerages, he inherited a wealth currently estimated at £9 billion, with considerable trust funds for his sisters.[9] This wealth is held in a trust, of which the Duke is a beneficial owner but not the legal owner — an arrangement which received considerable press attention due to the inheritance tax exemption this confers.[[10]]”
I would say it’s worse that just sneering, it’s become a deep seated resentment and loathing of the other side. To the point people have aligned themselves so completely with a particular mentality, there is a refusal to even acknowledge legitimate claims and what would otherwise be considered vile disgusting behavior is now secondary to loyalty to the group identity.