*BUSTED* My little school is in peril!

Maybe, relatively speaking though, setting up a business, school or restaurant is fairly easy in Taiwan. Try it in Oakland, CA. And when legal, you aren’t f8cked with. If a reg changes, they tell you and you pay up. If you don’t, now they know it. I’d rather sleep knowing some desk jockey isn’t going to make a name off me in the morning.

Again, ymmv. :idunno:

looking for loopholes and completely ignoring laws may be somehow different.

FIFY. (The central government has ministries/部; local governments have departments/局.)

Where did you get that idea? I thought we went over this already.

Buxibans are buxibans, kindergartens are kindergartens, and never the twain shall overlap if they’re doing things by the book.

The prohibition on foreign language lessons is for kindergartens. That one is clear.

The prohibition that buxibans theoretically have is on teaching kindergarten-age kids (teaching them anything), but that one is not completely clear, and the prevailing interpretation seems to be that they can have students in that age group as long as they don’t operate as de facto kindergartens.

Yes, because the standard is, if they’re the right age to be in kindergarten, and they eat and sleep there, it’s a de facto kindergarten, not a buxiban.

That part I have no trouble believing. Also, the kitchen-garage sounds credible to me, not that I would endorse it. :2cents:

If you have a kindergarten, you can’t have foreign language classes, period, and you can’t have foreign staff unless they’re exempt from the work permit system and are qualified educare providers by the Taiwanese government’s standards. But if you can find and afford them, then I suppose you can have them interacting with the students and giving them an English language environment, without any actual English classes.


In the EFL industry, deportation is typically caused by a work permit violation. If you’re permit-exempt, there can be no deportation-caused-by-a-work-permit-violation.

If you’re paying bribes, you can be found guilty of a criminal charge (or several), which in some cases may be enough for deportation.


In Taipei, you become a buxiban once your total student population reaches 5 (not necessarily in the same class). The New Taipei DOE buxiban regulations are available somewhere on their website for anyone who cares to dig them up.


Think of what else you could have spent all that time doing. :rainbow:

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Could you refresh our memories, briefly?

Now, that’s a great reply!
Way to go, space-one-eyed-octopus! :clap::clap:

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I’m no more an octopus than Space-Raccoon is a bear, but thanks. :slight_smile:

So as long as you have four or fewer kids at a time it’s pretty safe. I assume from your response every county is different?

Earthquakes and fires are weaker outside Taipei ? :thinking:ahhh you edited your original reply :wink:

steady there

I am feeling somewhat left out … not being a furry creature :pensive:

“Piles of dead kids in the 90’s and 2000’s”
Wtf man I was living there in 2000 and I dont remember any piles of bodies. When did that happen?

I don’t either.

Sounds like OP didn’t pay off people just like the large chain schools do. You wonder how they stay open? Pay off the right people.

The few Taiwanese business owners I know, all talk about giving officials red envelopes. They talk about it like it’s routine.

in Taipei, it is 5 or more, so 4 or less is ok. In New Taipei, there is no lower limit to be a buxiban.

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So glad that yyy joined the conversation. Yyy, you really should get into law because you seem to know every code and regulation in the book. It’s saintly what you do around here for the forumosans (especially myself). I definitely owe you a bottle of whatever you drink.

Your understanding of the law is in line with mine except in regards to one one point: Buxiban age restrictions. The letter of the law does say that students under 7 should not attend buxibans. I have been told by a representative of the (moe or doe) that this regulation is not enforced in NTC. This could be due to they themselves not understanding their own guidelines or some kind of uneven enforcement.

Regardless, I will double check with the appropriate regulatory agency to see what ages are restricted from attending buxibans.

Thanks :blush:

which law is it? Some local governments may have that rule, but it is not a national rule, iirc. There is a draft to add the rule,but it is not effective yet, as far as l know.

That I cannot say. This is just my broad understanding. It is notable that when I was visited by the inspector that they didn’t mention the age of my students.

then, why do you know the letter of the law does say that students under 7 should not attend buxibans.

I’m not an expert in the matter but, as yyy says, there is some sort of prohibition against preschool aged kids in buxiban.