# Buxiban work during Covid times - acceding to lower pay? **URL:** \ **Category:** Teaching English in Taiwan\ **Tags:** taipei, buxibans, covid-19\ **Created:** [May 25, 2021, 4:10am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/buxiban-work-during-covid-times-acceding-to-lower-pay/207422 "2021-05-25T04:10:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![stinsonlover](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/df788c/32.png) [@stinsonlover](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/stinsonlover)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2021, 10:56am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/buxiban-work-during-covid-times-acceding-to-lower-pay/207422/21 "2021-05-25T10:56:22Z")
I just saw my kid’s expensive private school native English teacher’s 7 minute video. He was reading a story from home apparently. He was holding a phone. The video was sideways. He doesn’t read clearly. And certainly the material is years beneath my daughter’s level. I heard the audio of the Taiwan Ren English teacher and the audio quality was horrible. I can’t see how any of these private after school companies are going to make it. If it were my business, I’d send everyone home. Seemed like a tough market for recruiters before the covid. I kept seeing the same people looking to fill a position. I think online is the future for these schools wanting to offer English. ---
**Author:** ![stinsonlover](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/df788c/32.png) [@stinsonlover](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/stinsonlover)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2021, 11:00am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/buxiban-work-during-covid-times-acceding-to-lower-pay/207422/22 "2021-05-25T11:00:59Z")
More on the above. The teacher for my daughter, I can’t see how the school could or would keep many of these people on the payroll. He was only reading. There is no interaction. My daughter learned a TON of English simply watching Peppa Pig, Robocar Poli, and Dinosaur Train, etc… I think there will be an exodus of the young, unsettled teachers because the immediate future here is really really not looking good at all. ---
**Author:** ![BiggusDickus](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/biggusdickus/32/90381_2.png) [@BiggusDickus](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/BiggusDickus)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2021, 11:51am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/buxiban-work-during-covid-times-acceding-to-lower-pay/207422/23 "2021-05-25T11:51:47Z")
> [@stinsonlover](#): > > More on the above. The teacher for my daughter, I can’t see how the school could or would keep many of these people on the payroll. He was only reading. There is no interaction. My daughter learned a TON of English simply watching Peppa Pig, Robocar Poli, and Dinosaur Train, etc… I think there will be an exodus of the young, unsettled teachers because the immediate future here is really really not looking good at all. Can you have much interaction with a video? ---
**Author:** ![stinsonlover](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/df788c/32.png) [@stinsonlover](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/stinsonlover)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2021, 11:56am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/buxiban-work-during-covid-times-acceding-to-lower-pay/207422/24 "2021-05-25T11:56:15Z")
Well of course. The different characters interacting with each other. My point was the teacher’s audio and video were worse than Peppa Pig. Zero interaction. If the school had live, 2 way video conferencing for the kids then yes there would be interaction. ---
**Author:** ![BiggusDickus](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/biggusdickus/32/90381_2.png) [@BiggusDickus](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/BiggusDickus)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2021, 11:57am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/buxiban-work-during-covid-times-acceding-to-lower-pay/207422/25 "2021-05-25T11:57:59Z")
> [@stinsonlover](#): > > Well of course. The different characters interacting with each other. My point was the teacher’s audio and video were worse than Peppa Pig. Zero interaction. If the school had live, 2 way video conferencing for the kids then yes there would be interaction. There’s a degree of caveat emptor at play here. Unless you have no choice but to choose this expensive private school? ---
**Author:** ![stinsonlover](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/df788c/32.png) [@stinsonlover](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/stinsonlover)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2021, 12:29am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/buxiban-work-during-covid-times-acceding-to-lower-pay/207422/26 "2021-05-26T00:29:52Z")
It’s a status thing for the wife I guess - the reason the daughter attends this school. It’s recognized as being the best. The video put out by the teacher would never have happened if this was an organized transition to off-site learning. From a media producer’s perspective this was a really really horrible display by this “elite” school. Shameful actually. Not just the production but also the presenter. ---
**Author:** ![BiggusDickus](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/biggusdickus/32/90381_2.png) [@BiggusDickus](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/BiggusDickus)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2021, 1:17am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/buxiban-work-during-covid-times-acceding-to-lower-pay/207422/27 "2021-05-26T01:17:04Z")
If it’s TES/TAS/Kang Chiao expensive then I’d make a complaint. I’ve met teachers from a couple of those places and they’re a mixed bag. ---
**Author:** ![stinsonlover](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/df788c/32.png) [@stinsonlover](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/stinsonlover)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2021, 1:25am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/buxiban-work-during-covid-times-acceding-to-lower-pay/207422/28 "2021-05-26T01:25:46Z")
The wife tells me to ignore it. She doesn’t want there to be any excuse for the daughter to be disallowed from attending. These teachers with technology challenges need to have the schools shoot and record these things for them. ---
**Author:** ![Liberty](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/l/958977/32.png) [@Liberty](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Liberty)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2021, 1:42am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/buxiban-work-during-covid-times-acceding-to-lower-pay/207422/29 "2021-05-26T01:42:29Z")
I feel for you. It is very embarrassing for me. The problem I’m experiencing is that parents have unrealistic expectations. I had 24 hours to learn and master online teaching. Impossible. I need to prepare 32 hours of online teaching. The preparation time in double what it is for face to face. Plus my own technical skills are lacking. Also, some parents have been providing unrealistic fees back. One parent said I sound travel outside and do exercise with the students. How? ---
**Author:** ![BiggusDickus](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/biggusdickus/32/90381_2.png) [@BiggusDickus](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/BiggusDickus)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2021, 1:48am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/buxiban-work-during-covid-times-acceding-to-lower-pay/207422/30 "2021-05-26T01:48:12Z")
> [@Liberty](#): > > I had 24 hours to learn and master online teaching. Impossible. I need to prepare 32 hours of online teaching. Well, this sums it up. The schools had over a year to prepare for this and did nothing. The MOE did a pretty good job with the local schools IMO, but private schools stuck their heads in the sand and English language online teaching seems to have been completely ignored. The stories I’m hearing from guys I know who work in buxibans… ---
**Author:** ![Brianjones](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/eada6e/32.png) [@Brianjones](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Brianjones)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2021, 1:53am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/buxiban-work-during-covid-times-acceding-to-lower-pay/207422/31 "2021-05-26T01:53:49Z")
> [@BiggusDickus](#): > > The MOE did a pretty good job with the local schools IMO We have the portal but we are doing all the teaching. No live interaction from their teachers so far. One will do something next week. ---
**Author:** ![BiggusDickus](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/biggusdickus/32/90381_2.png) [@BiggusDickus](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/BiggusDickus)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2021, 2:00am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/buxiban-work-during-covid-times-acceding-to-lower-pay/207422/32 "2021-05-26T02:00:07Z")
> [@Brianjones](#): > > > [@BiggusDickus](#): > > > > The MOE did a pretty good job with the local schools IMO > > We have the portal but we are doing all the teaching. No live interaction from their teachers so far. One will do something next week. My daughter’s at elementary level, so that’s the only level I have experience of, but what they’ve provided suits her well. There isn’t much online teaching, for sure. I’m teaching uni students online and I dread to think what it would be like teaching young learners. ---
**Author:** ![Brianjones](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/eada6e/32.png) [@Brianjones](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Brianjones)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2021, 2:07am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/buxiban-work-during-covid-times-acceding-to-lower-pay/207422/33 "2021-05-26T02:07:17Z")
The teachers have a duty to do their job and connect with the kids. I don’t really care how they do it. Even a half hour a day. ---
**Author:** ![BigDave](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/bigdave/32/181371_2.png) [@BigDave](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/BigDave)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2021, 2:10am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/buxiban-work-during-covid-times-acceding-to-lower-pay/207422/34 "2021-05-26T02:10:01Z")
Schools are changing what they want their teachers to do all the time. They want to live stream but they don’t trust that the teachers can do it well. So they ask them to make videos. They want professional quality but tell the teachers to use their own equipment(cell phones) and record it in one shot so they can upload it easily. ---
**Author:** ![BiggusDickus](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/biggusdickus/32/90381_2.png) [@BiggusDickus](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/BiggusDickus)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2021, 2:10am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/buxiban-work-during-covid-times-acceding-to-lower-pay/207422/35 "2021-05-26T02:10:54Z")
> [@Brianjones](#): > > The teachers have a duty to do their job and connect with the kids. I don’t really care how they do it. Even a half hour a day. I’m one of the few mugs at my uni who’s doing it. Very few of the Taiwanese professors are bothering according to my students. My daughter’s online with her teacher right now. It sounds like her teacher is managing the kids very well. ---
**Author:** ![crusher](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/crusher/32/235005_2.png) [@crusher](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/crusher)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2021, 2:27am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/buxiban-work-during-covid-times-acceding-to-lower-pay/207422/36 "2021-05-26T02:27:39Z")
> [@Taiwan\_Luthiers](#): > > Makes no sense. If anything they’re already saving money not having to open the facilities so why the lower pay? Great point. The schools should probably ask teachers to do it alone but in their classrooms, so they can say they are still using the facilities of the school to the parents. ---
**Author:** ![crusher](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/crusher/32/235005_2.png) [@crusher](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/crusher)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2021, 2:30am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/buxiban-work-during-covid-times-acceding-to-lower-pay/207422/37 "2021-05-26T02:30:58Z")
> [@Brianjones](#): > > The teachers have a duty to do their job and connect with the kids. I don’t really care how they do it. Even a half hour a day. Exactly, just connect, do revision , chat about the subject. Do something to keep the connection. This isolation is very damaging for kids. ---
**Author:** ![Liberty](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/l/958977/32.png) [@Liberty](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Liberty)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2021, 2:37am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/buxiban-work-during-covid-times-acceding-to-lower-pay/207422/38 "2021-05-26T02:37:56Z")
The classes I run are mostly social right now. Not much teaching. The kids miss their friends. ---
**Author:** ![mitaranda](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/13edae/32.png) [@mitaranda](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/mitaranda)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2021, 4:58am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/buxiban-work-during-covid-times-acceding-to-lower-pay/207422/39 "2021-05-26T04:58:28Z")
> [@Liberty](#): > > The kids miss their friends. ❤ ---
**Author:** ![needsjobs22](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/41988e/32.png) [@needsjobs22](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/needsjobs22)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2021, 5:04am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/buxiban-work-during-covid-times-acceding-to-lower-pay/207422/40 "2021-06-01T05:04:12Z")
Saw a new post talking about asking for a raise in this climate. Should we? [Previous page](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/buxiban-work-during-covid-times-acceding-to-lower-pay/207422.md?page=1) [Next page](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/buxiban-work-during-covid-times-acceding-to-lower-pay/207422.md?page=3)