“The council would continue to evaluate the bill’s potential risks and effects, Lai said, adding that the Cabinet would ensure new regulations do not affect the salaries of Taiwanese.”
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/front/archives/2018/05/16/2003693154
Meaning the new measures will not expose Taiwanese to coworkers who earn substantially more than a local salary, which in turn would invalidate the excuses generally brought forward by enterprises why they are not able to pay more.
Let’s face it, Tsai Ing-wen’s economic policy is quite clear in that she and her green plebeians would rather be poor and be the king of the paupers in South East Asia, than go for meaningful (and painful) reforms in all industrial sectors and areas of society as to catch up with OECD countries.
Not even to mention the ridiculous and dangerous plan of granting permanent residence to blue collar foreign laborers as mentioned in the article OP posted.
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Please explain this danger.
For reference:
Essentially we would be moving away from an immigration policy that was designed to facilitate the immigration of persons from other cultural backgrounds with a certain level of integration into Taiwanese society through family bonds. For instance, the Vietnamese wife of a Taiwanese man or the American husband of a Taiwanese woman.
Recently, immigration policies became somewhat more liberal towards families consisting entirely of foreigners - however these policies only applied to white collar professionals who comply with a catalog of stringent requirements. There is almost no economic motivation for professionals from developed countries to permanently migrate to Taiwan aside from the concrete job offer that caused them to come in the first place. Due to their relatively affluent economic situation, these families will also ensure proper schooling for their children and generally not become a burden to the system. Naturalization is almost never sought and hence it is safe to say that at some point their Taiwan-born children will either enter into mixed relationships with locals or at some point leave for good. Either way, the consequences for the ethnic-cultural makeup of Taiwan are minuscule.
Laborers from South East Asia are an entirely different story. For them, living in Taiwan permanently beyond their contract is motivated by strong economic pull factors. They often have descending linear relations in their home countries, which could set off waves of chain immigration of spouses and children not proficient in Chinese, malnourished, under-schooled due to the dire conditions in their home countries, and often afflicted with various health conditions. At the same time they are not integrated into local society through a Taiwanese spouse. The ethnic-cultural makeup of Taiwan will be forever altered and judging by examples from Europe, Taiwanese should be afraid and opposed to such plans.
Where exactly is Taiwan lagging significantly OECD countries ? You are aware right that countries such as Mexico, Greece and Turkey are OECD countries.
Just had a quick look at the list of OECD countries, I would guess Taiwan ranks somewhere in the 20% when measured on per capita PPP gdp.
GDP/cap (PPP) is not the only relevant indicator. It is precisely this thinking that made Taiwan the polluted sulfur pit with low salaries it presently is.
I agree with you that it should not be the only indicator. But, I think on most indicators Taiwan is not doing too bad when compared to OECD countries.
On which indicators do you think Taiwan is failing badly?
Absolutely. They’d have to pay more to recruit foreign talent and I think that could drive the local salaries up. But then again, it would take recognition that their skills should be valued. I can’t see that happening at typical companies here. And I think the local employees will keep it going because many don’t believe they deserve better. I was talking with a student getting ready to graduate. She could stay with her internship company that really doesn’t value her, or join a multinational. Some in her family think she should stay with what she has or her “reputation” will be tarnished. I told her she doesn’t owe the company where she interns anything except a thank you, and to choose what she wants. This is a case where a kid has a dream to join a big company and perhaps work overseas for awhile, and locals hold them back thinking they are helping them. Is this common here?
I think it is the default actually. Parents pay through the nose to have their kid study a semester or two overseas, learn other languages, etc. But when the time comes to enter the work force: “Get a government job, it’s safer”, “Go work at the post office, it’s safer”. I think it’s an insane waste of time and money.
Not to say that there aren’t any smart and driven Taiwanese people. They just don’t necessarily live in Taiwan anymore, at this point.
Stay in Taiwan. Bring your family over. Buy/Rent a house. Open a bank account. Stop sending money back home and buy some furniture eat some lunchbox. Send your kids to school. Buy a uniform. Doesn’t sound like a bad deal for the overwrought systems in place around here. This is for the 300+k blue collar workers of course.
Arent they people taiwan is really needing?
As far as I can tell, the new plan of the Executive Yuan focuses on bringing Taiwanese overseas compatriots. No whities, no SEA.
As the UK found out you can’t have your cake and enslave it. Taiwan’s increasing reliance on SE Asian labor should see a corresponding increase in the basic human rights granted to these laborers including residence rights. If Taiwanese are genuinely afraid of living among SE Asian’s then they should wipe their own elderly parents shitty bottoms, raise their own snotty spoiled children and work in their own crappy factories.
Very surprised they didn’t introduce a proper foreign agricultural workers program ,or is there one already ?
That is actually the biggest area of need from my understanding .
It’s common for family to try and stop their kids going overseas or even moving to another city in Taiwan .
That is usually what this kind of 'advice ’ is about.
They are very clingy.
One could argue about immigrants and visas etc. But I’m sure all ofFus can agree Taiwan has dropped the ball on the mixed children born and raisedDhere and essentially deported when coming of age. Hey can find a way to stay, sure…but there is not denying.it fucks up the whole game for those people.
Is this situation changing at all now? Still the same? Based primarily on this, but many other things, Taiwan has a pretty shotty system in regards to non citizens and work/investment/financial everything.
There is mass racism here, obviously, but legally it is essentially as simple as citizen or not. Everything is primarily based, legally, on political affiliation, not DNA. Culturally its different. But immigration laws are based on law and its essentially local or foreigner, not white black or brown.
Now that the left has made open rebellion against federal immigration laws respectable what’s to stop everyone from flouting laws they don’t think are fair? The left will undoubtedly argue that only they get to be above the law because only their cause is just but that argument isn’t likely to be very persuasive.
Soon “sanctuary cities” of every stripe may start popping up the around the U.S. where local courts and law enforcement join forces with “dreamers” of all types previously dismissed as kooks, wackos and resisters . This could be the start of something big.
oh the fucking irony…cunts can’t move unless an Indonesian slave is there to help them, can’t even reproduce without a Vietnamese breeder