Recently, i’ve transferred ownership of appartment from my wife (Taiwanese) to me (foreigner).
In time when i bought this appatment (100% paid by me) i couldn’t have property in Taiwan so it has been registered to my (taht time, future) wife. Now rules has been changed and i may have property.
So, after we transferred appartment to me, we went to HousHold registration office to change main owner name from my wife to me. And i’ve found that i can’t!
The clerk said that only Taiwanese can be listed as main person in HouseHold registration.
I’ve asked, what if i’m not married and bought appartment? He said that i can live there but can not register there. So, in any case, Taiwanese person is required to have household registration. Foreigner can not be registered alon or as main person.
I’m not sure if we will keep our marriage or not. To many musunderstandings between us. But if if we will divorce i will loose household registration. I know that for ARC/APRC and other things, foreigners are requested for household registration which i won’t have if i will divorce.
So can anybody explain such situation?
Is there any foreigher here who solely live in his own appartment? How you deal in cases when you need to provide household registration?
May be papers of ownership can at as household registration?
And another question:
Clerk said, that since i own appartment it doesn’t matter who is listed as main person. But i have doubts… Can i unregister any person from household agains his/her will if i’m owner? Is it possible that person may claim that he/she has no other places to lieve and that’s why he/she should be registered here unless he will able to register somehere else (which can last forever). As consequences she/he will able to pretend on part of this property as one who lived here for a long time, etc etc…
What power main person in household registration has?
i’m in process of preparing documents for APRC. One of paper listed in requirements is household registration paper (written in paper given by NIA of Taipei county, Banqiao).
Probably, it’s because i’m requesting APRC through marriage. APRC through working visa probably has no such requirements.
Its wrong. Unless you’re married, your name won’t be on any household registration. You don’t need to be married to obtain APRC. Your immigration person is talking crap.
[quote=“sandman”]
Its wrong. Unless you’re married, your name won’t be on any household registration.[/quote]
Thanks. Question about houselhold registration requirements is closed.
How about my main question about registering in appartment?
Especially, how to deal with person who already been registered there as main person and what power he/she has?
Can i unregister that person against his/her will?
no, i didn’t mean i have to me maried. Just because i’m married now and APRC through marriage is easier for me than through work.
[quote=“tairus”]So can anybody explain such situation?
Is there any foreigher here who solely live in his own appartment? How you deal in cases when you need to provide household registration?[/quote]
You are confusing property ownership with the idea of head of household…Anyone on a given household registration can own property, not only the head of household.
Again, as above. You seem to be worried about divorce and what will happen if your wife kicks you off her household registration. For the purposes of the house, for example, if you do get divorced and try to sell someday without being on a household reg, there are ways around this. The clerk is essentially right.
but what if i don’t want to sell, but just want to get rid from anyone to who i don’t have relations anymore?
Has owner (i.e. me) rights to unregister somebody against his will from his property?
Ok. Lemme ask more clearly: After divorce i want to unregister my wife from my property (well, together with me if i can not be listed as head of household) to tear all relations between us?
You don’t seem to understand: If the deed(s) to the property is in your name, you do not have to de-register anyone from the property…What you want to do is to have your name taken off the household registry after divorce and, more importantly, have the domicile in question be de-listed as the primary residence on said registry. I’m sure this is all possible, though you should probably consult a lawyer or a dai su to be sure.
What is the household registration for and why would a foreigner need it if he is single, has an APRC, and fully owns the apartment he is living in all by himself?
I did apply for reducing the 地價稅 tax by using the 自用 clause, and thought I needed to be registered. But it turned out, that was not necessary. Are there any other cases I would need a household registration for?
My understanding is that a household registration has little or nothing to do with property or ownership and more to do with the legalities of fillial or familial relations.
Perhaps someone else has a better understanding and can offer more.
Well, now i know that i misunderstood role of HouseHold registration here in Taiwan.
In Russia (where i came from) there is similar thing with registeration in appartment/house, but it’s not related to marriage. It’s just official address where you live. There are numerous government organisations where you need to bring your ID with address. Without address written in ID you are officially homeless and dealing with some documents/money etc. is much harder.
here in Taiwan, HouseHold registration is somehow related to marriage and looks like is not important.
hannes,
good info about taxes. I wanted to know is it’s possible to have reduced taxes without household. Now i know this. Thanks!
Household registration is a relic of hwta they have in China, where the family roots can be traced sometimes hundrrds of years. It adds “belongment” to the land and family and clan and that stuff.
Here, you will see people “registering” in a district where they have good, “famous” schools. Hence, their kids can go to that school because they are registered there though the family lives elsewhere. I have a friend who helps a friend this way.
Back home, we have the same thing. Where you are registered can be different of where you vote.
It is also very important in delineating next of kin. For example: If your spouse does not have his or her own household registration and is still on his/her parents’, they have a legitimate claim to his/her estate in the event of death, as I understand.
I don’t think so. Regardless household, there is property. No matter if you are registered there or not, you will receive inheritance according to testament (or according order if there is no testament) and you will pay taxes accoring to relation to that human.
It’s nonsense that for example some uncle instead of child will receive inheritance just because he’s been registered in the same appartment.
[quote=“sandman”]
Its related principally to voter lists. You have to vote in the place you have your household registration.[/quote]
… if you are citizen.
With this addition everything looks correct and registration of foreigner won’t grand him right to vote.
I know it’s in vain to complain about law, but i really don’t see anything blocking registration for foreigner.
It would add some order in foreigner life and all deals around him.
I would imagine that your first step would be a visit to the household registration office, taking all documents relating to your ownership of the property, and take it from there. I’m sure there must be a way.
Consult an estate lawyer and find out for yourself. 