Can you obtain a visitor's visa for the first time?

I hold a US passport and wish to apply for a 60 day visitor’s visa, however I do not have an ARC and I am not being employed by a Taiwanese company yet, how likely will they grant me a visitor’s visa? What are the basic requirements for a visitor’s visa.

Thanks

Are you currently in the US or are you already in Taiwan?

Do you want to apply for a Visitor Visa for work or study purposes?

I am in Taiwan but I will go to Hong Kong for a visa run after the 30-day expiration date, then I would want to apply for a 60-day visitor’s visa while in Hong Kong.

I am seeking for work in Taiwan.

[color=#800000][quote=“Militarygamer”]I hold a US passport and wish to apply for a 60 day visitor’s visa, however I do not have an ARC and I am not being employed by a Taiwanese company yet, how likely will they grant me a visitor’s visa? What are the basic requirements for a visitor’s visa.

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A 60 day VV has nothing whatsoever to do with an ARC. a VV is just that–for visitors. ARC holders are either workers or family members. They’re not visiting TW; they’re residing in TW. ARC alien RESIDENT card! Get it? Visit versus reside, big difference, right?

If you are in Taiwan, you must fly home where you can get a 60 day Renewable VV or you can fly to Macau, HKG, BKK, NOT MANILA! and get a 60 day non-renewable VV. [color=#800000]Actually, the last time I went to Macau I was able to convince them to give me a 60 day renewable VV. That’s unusual. That VV is usually given in one’s own country. Anyway, I guess I praised TW quite a lot and actually smiled, which for my demeanor is quite unusual. I went home for January and for $140USD got a 60 day renewable VV at the Taiwan OFFICE (Consulate) technically it’s not a consulate because technically Taiwan is not a country.

Or better yet the Fing Red Chinese have forced this dictum down the throats of almost every country onthe planet. Then again, it’s all TW’s fault for storming out of the UN back in 1972? The UN gave TW an ultimatum–back when TW couldn’t even spell the word. Allow Big Fing Communist Red China to enter the UN and also sit at the Security Council and TW can remain a member of the UN. OR get the hell F*ing outta hai(R) I’m trying to duplicate the sound of an English speaker who doesn’t use the r sound very much. Anyway, you know what I mean.

TW had been keeping the The Republic of China’s seat warm at the UN from 1945 until 1972? and its allies refused to recognize Red China’s existence as a country. Stupidly the now villified memory of Chang Chi Shek? refused to entertain TW’s remaining in the UN if Red China was allowed membership. He had his storm troopers–because he was kind of a Neo-NAZI, although he didn’t shave his head–storm out of the general assembly never to return–by choice, and later by force.

TW was forced to do all kinds of stupid purchase of recognition packages with every joe blow in the hopes of regaining its long lost seat. The UN should have taken TW’s seat and shipped it back to Chang Chi Shek?–my Chinese phonics have never been spot on-- giving him clear and detailed instructions on how to impose and inject that seat which has now converted itself into a projectile, into a certain orifice which here in this revered forum is to indelicate to detail. Anyway, TW has been struggling to get back into that long, abandoned seat, but can’t do that now because Big Red Brodaah Commie China dun sayd NO!

Oops! Sorry! This isn’t a course on politics, is it?

Indeed, that’s the cheapest VV I’ve ever bought and my pp is full of TW VV’s!

The most expensive 60 day renewable VV cost me 21,000NTD in Macau. Now, that includes the flight ticket TPE Macau TPE, hotel, food, etc.

I don’t debit the $140 VV for the flight from TW to USA because my intent was to spend one month with my family. So transportation costs for obtaining the VV was about $15 and the photos were about $15. So total cost is really $170USD. Not bad, if I do say so myself.

Anyway, did I answer your question? Good, because I have one for you! Usually, for how long a time do you hold your US passport? All ears! Thanks![/color]

[color=#0000FF][quote=“Militarygamer”]I hold a US passport and wish to apply for a 60 day visitor’s visa, however I do not have an ARC and I am not being employed by a Taiwanese company yet, how likely will they grant me a visitor’s visa? What are the basic requirements for a visitor’s visa.

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I just noticed that I didn’t answer your question correctly.
I know, I know, I’m slow!

So, here’s the correct answer:
Yes, you can obtain a visitor’s visa for the first time, unless you’ve already obtained a visitor’s visa for the first time.

In that case, it would be for the second time.

See! I know I’m slow, but I do catch on after a while.

So, in this case, no, you can’t obtain a visitor’s visa for the first time because you’ve already obtained a visitor’s visa for the first time.

Me explico, Federico? O, te lo digo, Rodrigo?
And you thought you had me fooled the whole time! Ha! Ha! Ha! Gottcha![/color]

Por qué los colores, Dolores?

If you are in Taiwan on a Visa Exempt status (i.e. your US Passport) and looking for work teaching English and you are trying to get an ARC that way you should read this forum: [url=http://tw.forumosa.com/t/visa-exempt-entry-to-work-permit/63302/1

IIf you are in Taiwan on a Visa Exempt status (i.e. your US Passport) and looking for work doing something other than teaching English and you are trying to get an ARC that way you should read this forum: [url=http://tw.forumosa.com/t/just-wanna-chill-out-and-have-a-potential-p-t-job/64619/1

If it JUST a Visitor’s Visa you are after and you want one that will last more than 6 months, you need to go back to the states and apply there.

I am not that familiar with the US process though because I’m from Canada where all we know is how to don Jheri curls, wear earrings and fuck sheep in the mouth.

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Eso fue buenisimo, Generalisimo!
Y por eso los flores de muchos colores me gustan a mi!
Wow! This all really brings back my Tex-Mex years in the days of Wilma and Fred when I started teaching.

[color=#FF0000][quote=“Militarygamer”]I am in Taiwan but I will go to Hong Kong for a visa run after the 30-day expiration date, then I would want to apply for a 60-day visitor’s visa while in Hong Kong.

I am seeking for work in Taiwan.[/quote] WAIT! This grammar ERROR clearly indicates you are not a NATIVE-BORN ENGLISH SPEAKER! Are you looking for work teaching ENGLISH. NO! i HOPE NOT! In fact, if we were holding this discussion in North, Central, South America or the Caribe, I would bet my hat on your being a native-born Spanish speaker, i.e. your first language is Spanish. My second language is Spanish; my third is Italiano! So there, I got that off my chest! [/color]

[color=#0000BF]Don’t go to Hong Kong, Macau is cheaper and smaller. Get your VV here.

It’s harder to get lost looking for the Taiwan Office which isn’t allowed to post a sign on the street. Damn Red China Commie rule!
It’s on the fifth floor of a big building 2 blocks from the beautiful statue of Matzu on the waterfront.
Google Taiwan TECO office Macau and you see the street address.
Remember, Macau doesn’t speak much English.
And remember, consulates celebrate both sets of holidays! How wonderful it must be!
They celebrate their own holidays and those of the country they’re in! Isn’t it just Ggggreat!

I know of one recruiter who sent a poor, unsuspecting Canadian to Macau during a holiday to make a typical Sacred Heart Keelung bullshit visa run. That school’s abject depravity and cruelty have been perpetrated against and upon so many innocent teachers so many times and the powers that be or not to be have never, ever punished the school because of friends in high places and I ain’t talkin’ 'bout no darn mountain neither, Jessibel! I need to vomit.

The recruiter was pure evil: Go2TeachEnglish–a crooked American with a crooked TW wife whose skin looked–and I assume still does look–like snake leather. She needs a skin transplant, but I think they’re all out of those.

Like all consulates, they’re a money sucking enterprize and will charge you an extra 50% for a same day or next day VV.
Then again, if you balance your hotel and food and boredom factor (Macau doesn’t offer a lot of museums, although there are a few exquisite small exhibits to see and a whole lotta casino chairs, the most in all the world!) against the 50% surcharge, you might figure that it’s cheaper To pay the surcharge. Also, the TW Office doesn’t accept NTD. They accept only the local currencies, HKD or Macau money, whose name eludes me at the moment. HKD is worth a bit more and TW Office jealously prefers more money, honey.

Remember, docs in before 10AM and pickup at 4PM.

Me entiendes, Mendes o te lo expliquo, Federico?
Don’t thank me; I’ll send you the bill. Invoice will read: From the school of hard knocks!
P.M. post mortem! You can see Hong Kong while waiting for your VV to be issued by Taiwan TECO Office in Macau. Just take the 30minute fairy, sorry, Mr. Freud, ferry from Macau to HKG. They leave and return all day long!
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[quote=“achdizzy1099”]If you are in Taiwan on a Visa Exempt status (i.e. your US Passport) and looking for work teaching English and you are trying to get an ARC that way you should read this forum: [url=Visa Exempt Entry to Work Permit

IIf you are in Taiwan on a Visa Exempt status (i.e. your US Passport) and looking for work doing something other than teaching English and you are trying to get an ARC that way you should read this forum: [url=Just wanna chill out and have a potential p/t job

If it JUST a Visitor’s Visa you are after and you want one that will last more than 6 months, you need to go back to the states and apply there.

I am not that familiar with the US process though because I’m from Canada where all we know is how to don Jheri curls, wear earrings and fuck sheep in the mouth.

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Sorry to differ, but I got a 60 renewable visa, good for 5 years! at the Taiwan TECO Office in Macau! Read my post, thanks! Bye
p.s. # 2 A non-renewable VV is not good for 6months. IT’s good for 2 months, Sherlock.

Is there any reason that everyone is trying to answer every question but what the OP actually asked?

Yes, you can go to Hong Kong and get a 60 day visitor visa. They might want to see bank statements (probably), flight info (unlikely) and not much else. You are not supposed to use visitor visas for job hunting so don’t say anything about looking for a job (they might not even care). They won’t ask you many questions. application dropoffs are in the morning and possibly early afternoon while pick up is after 4pm next day so plan your flights accordingly.

Don’t go to Manila though. They do not issue any visitor visas for tourism. Macau/Okinawa/Bangkok/etc are also options since it really doesn’t matter where you go. Hong Kong is expensive though. I spent about $50 US/day on cheap accomodation, food and transport. But I liked Hong Kong a lot more than I expected because there were a lot of good walking and photography ops.

It’s better to get your visa marked as renewable (extendable?) since you will have to pay the full visa fee again when you apply for a resident visa (within Taiwan). But this seems difficult to request and it’s possibly just a matter of luck from what I’ve read.

[color=#0040FF] Is there any reason that everyone is trying to answer every question but what the OP actually asked?

Well, now that some of us have decided to get personable about all the ins and outs of 6 blind men trying to describe that big elephant in the room otherwise known as “What’s the easiest highway to travel from visa to ARC?” I’m going to have to agree with the last poster when he said it’s cheaper to get a ARC by starting with a 60 day renewable visa.

Here are dem facts and figures for US citizens (We pay the same amount that the US GOV charges TW citizens.)

Between the 2 Govs, it’s called the famous or infamous RECIPROCOL VISA. The US GOV has promised to drop the rates if and WHEN TW GOV stops allowing 3rd party Joe Blows from applying for passports and then visas for people who don’t feel like identifying themselves in the passport office, resulting in toooo many people showing up at entrance points in the USA with TW passports who don’t know what SUN MOON Lake is or Taroko Gorge, neither.

TW citzens are known for producing funny papers and I don’t mean cartoons. N.B. 4 months ago a dozen of them were arrested in Manila producing passports and visas. TW GOV got knots in its panties when PHIL GOV shipped TW citizens off to Red China.)

IT IS CHEAPER TO GET A 60 DAY RENEWABLE VV.

  1. NTD$ 8323 From landing Visa to ARC
  2. NTD$ 9123 From 60 day non-renewable VV to ARC
  3. NTD$ 7260 From 60 day renewable to VV ARC

The above info comes straight off of a pdf doc I was given last year. Prices do not include 50% markup for expedited VV.
I can’t seem to find a way to attach it to this post, sorry![/color]

That info does nothing to help the OP. He simply wants to know if he can get a visitors visa in Hong Kong. The answer is yes.

Renewable (which I think shows up as extendable on the visa) is better than non-renewable but in the end you show it as a 2000 NT difference. And there is no place on the application to request it so it’s really a detail that further confuses the OP and anyone else that reads this thread.

[quote=“Abacus”]That info does nothing to help the OP. He simply wants to know if he can get a visitors visa in Hong Kong. The answer is yes.

Renewable (which I think shows up as extendable on the visa) is better than non-renewable but in the end you show it as a 2000 NT difference. And there is no place on the application to request it so it’s really a detail that further confuses the OP and anyone else that reads this thread.[/quote]
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No, it shows up as MULTIPLE ENTRY. It’s good for 5 years, 60 days at a time.
And no, there is a place on the application to request it. I know because I requested 3 of them to date.

Now as to the original question: Can you obtain a visitor’s visa for the first time? That question is confused and confusing.

There is only one logical answer:

You can obtain a VV for the first time, if you haven’t already done so.
If you have already requested a VV for the first time, then you can’t request a VV for the first time AGAIN.

Look at the handle 1.military and s/he likes to 2.play games. Need more be said? [/color]